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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #20 on: April 13 2005, 11:38 pm »
thkies lumizstar, for correcting me~ :P i knew i had some mistakes here and there~ :D

now i think that seishiro is the enemy of the syaoran & gang but not the allies of the evil guys, kinda neutral yet evil in his own stand and gain~ :P juz a li' difference fr my thoughts the last time~ :D
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #21 on: April 15 2005, 02:22 am »
Quote from: Tune on April 13 2005, 11:38 pm
thkies lumizstar, for correcting me~ :P i knew i had some mistakes here and there~ :D

now i think that seishiro is the enemy of the syaoran & gang but not the allies of the evil guys, kinda neutral yet evil in his own stand and gain~ :P juz a li' difference fr my thoughts the last time~ :D

Yep yep, I agree on your point. I think sooner or later, maybe after he achieves his goal, maybe he is going to help Syaoran.
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #22 on: April 15 2005, 03:36 pm »
yet again...i think seishiro aint gona do anything for free...he'll hav a motive to help~ :P but aint it weird now that i think of it....y was seishiro in clow country (when syaoran was young), then when he dint have the powers of dimension travelling fr his right eye....hmmz, yet he says he's finding for subaru then, so he knows about their existence in different dimensions probably after a tip off by who-knows-who....yet it stil doesnt explain how'd he manage to end up at yuuko's to trade for the powers (he'd have to have travel THERE 1st right??). then me post back then doesnt stand as there'll be no way he'd travel BACK IN TIME to train syaoran coz he doesnt have the eye in the flashbacks...rather, he went ahead in time to get the dimensional powers and then ahead to the themepark country's gameworld....do i make sense? this different dimension thingy wif time now is making things more difficult...

thing to confirm: whether seishiro is a magician, if not, it'd be interesting to know WHO send him to yuuko's....
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #23 on: April 15 2005, 05:49 pm »
Quote from: Tune on April 15 2005, 03:36 pm
yet again...i think seishiro aint gona do anything for free...he'll hav a motive to help~ :P but aint it weird now that i think of it....y was seishiro in clow country (when syaoran was young), then when he dint have the powers of dimension travelling fr his right eye....hmmz, yet he says he's finding for subaru then, so he knows about their existence in different dimensions probably after a tip off by who-knows-who....yet it stil doesnt explain how'd he manage to end up at yuuko's to trade for the powers (he'd have to have travel THERE 1st right??). then me post back then doesnt stand as there'll be no way he'd travel BACK IN TIME to train syaoran coz he doesnt have the eye in the flashbacks...rather, he went ahead in time to get the dimensional powers and then ahead to the themepark country's gameworld....do i make sense? this different dimension thingy wif time now is making things more difficult...

thing to confirm: whether seishiro is a magician, if not, it'd be interesting to know WHO send him to yuuko's....

Well, myabe he's still in his former job : Sakurazaukamori/omniyouji(?) (oops, forgot the spelling). Anywayz, the problem is does he posses the power to travel in between dimensions, and also, did he actually went to Yuuko's place.....Hm.....
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #24 on: April 15 2005, 08:00 pm »
ehh...i dont think he can pick something to replace his eye on the road...and the powers for traveling dimensions is the same as yuuko's, too bad its not shown in xxxholic..yet...there could be a cross-over for this n i'm very eager to know coz i dont think theres anyway seishiro can steal fr yuuko or threaten her...fr my POV, yuuko's really powerful...more powerful than seishiro (i dint see X...but i'm refering to the fight wif kurogane~ :P )
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #25 on: April 17 2005, 04:06 pm »
He's neither good nor evil in my opinion. He just want to find vampire for his purposes, right? And to complete this, he need Sakura's feather to use its power for thing he want. That's why he won't give it right now  and as he mentioned before about meeting again, he'd definitely give this back after he gets what he wants.
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #26 on: April 17 2005, 05:35 pm »
Dunno....I think he honestly likes Syaoran, but has no qualms about killing him if he gets in his way....kinda like Tokyo Babylon, really...
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #27 on: April 17 2005, 08:01 pm »
well...he seems cold enuff, but i dont think he'll really giv the feather back without a fight~ :P
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #28 on: May 10 2005, 11:24 am »
I'm really going to have to read X and Tokyo Babylon so I can sort some of this out!

If he was truly evil, why would he leave Sakura and Mokona and not kidnap them or something?
Why would he teach Syaoran to fight?
Why would he obey the arrow that Yuuko sent?

Maybe he does have some motive.

Without having read X or Tokyo Babylon, I have no idea of his "soul".
I think maybe though that he needed the feather for some purpose and that also it wasn't time for Sakura to have that feather yet.
For some reason Sakura is not supposed to have those particular memories.
Maybe they are memories of Syaoran. Maybe at some point she will be allowed to have them.
Maybe Seishiro-san was sent by Yuuko to take the feather.
Perhaps he can use the feather for gain until the time Sakura would have it back.

But also neither Kurogane nor Fai trusted him at first site.

Since a "version" of Seishiro-san is in X and Tokyo Babylon, which do I read first?
Which series introduces him?
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #29 on: May 10 2005, 05:09 pm »
Tokyo Babylon introduces him, but X is a good read as well!
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #30 on: May 11 2005, 07:06 am »
The power for him to travel between worlds is not as strong as Yuuko's, since she only allows him to go to a limited number of them... Maybe Sakura's feather allows him the extension he needs.  I never think he's evil, just someone who has a wish to be fulfilled like Taishakuten or Asura- ou.  Sometimes you have to do a lot of horrible things in order to get this one good thing, right?
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #31 on: May 14 2005, 09:55 am »
nah, he starts to turn opposite in the 6th. the 7th hasn't come out yet...argh, can't wait to see what happens  :greengrin:
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according to what happens in x/1999, I think Seishiro kills Subaru's sister
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #32 on: May 14 2005, 10:08 am »
Quote from: Okamirei on May 14 2005, 09:55 am
nah, he starts to turn opposite in the 6th. the 7th hasn't come out yet...argh, can't wait to see what happens :greengrin:
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according to what happens in x/1999, I think Seishiro kills Subaru's sister
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Seishirou made a bet with Subaru years ago, saying that if Subaru can show him the difference between living and dead, he will spare him, but Subaru failed, and Seishirou was supposed to kill Subaru as a result.  However, Hokuto chooses to be the scapegoat for Subaru
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #33 on: May 14 2005, 01:56 pm »
there's only 6 in waldenbooks here
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #34 on: May 14 2005, 06:24 pm »
Umm...about Seishiro in Tsubasa...which book/chapter does he appear in....because in book 5, Syaoran talks about how

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he's blind in his right eye, and how someone taught him to fight.

But there's no mention of Seishiro yet...how long do I have to wait, guys?
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #35 on: May 14 2005, 07:00 pm »
***But there's no mention of Seishiro yet...how long do I have to wait, guys?***

They show him so that you know for sure it's him in chapter 41.
He's mostly in book seven~ from chapter 44 to 49.
I assume he'll be in more books to come though!

I really like Tokyo Babylon so far, but I like the way Seishiro-san is drawn in Tsubasa, and I wonder if Subaru will really turn up.
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #36 on: May 16 2005, 02:11 am »
he's at the end of book 6^^, you won't have to wait long
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #37 on: May 16 2005, 10:07 am »
Okay, I just read Tokyo Babylon book 7.
Seishiro-san is pretty evil. Evil in that he has no feelings what-so-ever.
Unless that's changed since book 7.
I want spoilers!!!!
Is book seven the last book? How many books are in Japan?
What happens between Seishiro and Subaru in X????
Why is he calling Subaru and Subaru's sister the Vampire twins?
Please someone tell me everything!
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #38 on: May 17 2005, 05:50 am »
SPOILERS! TOO MANY TO USE THE TAG!

In X, Seishiro and Subaru fight at the Rainbow Bridge, and Subaru kills Seishiro. Seishiro also says something to Subaru that makes the Sumeragi cry over his death...(going off an amv here) so I wonder whether Seishiro loved Subaru in his own way.

I think that this is true with Syaoran. Seishiro does care about him, but allows his ambition for power to take priority. As for the vampire twins....in Tsubasa, I think that they cursed Seishiro with immortality or something like that. So now he has to kill them to end his curse. They're changed in Tsubasa,because CLAMP wnated to explore different aspects of each character.

It's like the girl with a dog and the other guy from X who turned up in TRC book 5 as demon hunters....
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Re: Seishiro-san...good or evil?
« Reply #39 on: May 17 2005, 07:06 am »
Thanks Ruby Chan, I was really wondering what happened with this story.
What about Subaru's eye? I read something about that he felt guilt over Seishiro losing his own eye for him?

Oh, and a cookie for you for always being so helpful!!!!!
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