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Is it illegal?
« on: October 19 2005, 06:08 am »
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A few hour's ago I went to a friends house, nothing knew I'm always going there to fix his computer or to just hang around. Well, I noticed a stack of DVDs, again nothing knew, what WAS knew was that they where rentals (He NEVER rents DVD's, he always buy's them)

Well, I lied to him and said I needed to check his computer (I hate lieing to a friend >_<) and found out he was copying Rental DVD's to his system so he won't have to buy them: Anime's of all things. (which are licensed)

Well, my job has me looking for these types of people, and then bringing them in for copy right infringment, but seeing how my boss isn't in town (I have the week off) I can't get with him and disguss this, he's not registered on this board, but every other baord he is so thisi s the only board I can ask this question on

I need to know if he truely IS breaking the Law in copying Rental DVD's to his system, reproduction, distributing them to people around the net (it's a stupid question, since I'm already well versed in Title 17, Section 502 and 506 that govern's DVD's) but I wanted a second opinion

Any?

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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #1 on: October 19 2005, 06:20 am »
well from what I know, renting DVDs and copying them to your PC or recording them to Video isn't illegal as long as you don't give them to anyone else or sell them. But since you say he is selling them then I'd just have to say you'll have to suck in your gut and do the right thing. That or you can live with knowing your not doing your job and just because he's a friend he's getting let off while other people wouldn't be. It's not fair. But can't you talk to him about it directly? Do you KNOW he's distrubiting them or just keeping them for himself?
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #2 on: October 19 2005, 08:24 am »
I have talked to him, and he isn't happy that I found out. In fact, he's kind of pathetic now, begging me not to report him and such. I tried to tell him that copying them is ok, but selling them is not, but his server logs already prove that he's been selling them to people so I've already got the proof in my hands, either way as much as I sometimes hate this job, I'll have to report him, he knew what my job was and I told him a year ago when I took it that if I caught any of friends doing waht he is doing, I'd report them

Either way, I hope he realize's what the consequences are

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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #3 on: October 19 2005, 08:28 am »
true, you gotta do what ya gotta do.

what is your job? because I've not heard of a job to find copyrigth violaters really..
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #4 on: October 19 2005, 08:38 am »
If he is selling them and you have proof you have to do what you gotta do
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #5 on: October 19 2005, 09:01 am »
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what is your job? because I've not heard of a job to find copyrigth violaters really..

Computer Techinition ^_^

But, as a side job, my boss works as a Copyright Enforcer, so my side job is finding those who violate it (not easy trust me >_< )

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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #6 on: October 19 2005, 09:04 am »
Its 'Technician'

Copyright enforcer? we don't have those I don't think, if somebody is breaking the law in anyway here, you ring the police and let them handle it.
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #7 on: October 19 2005, 09:40 am »
Its 'Technician'

Copyright enforcer? we don't have those I don't think, if somebody is breaking the law in anyway here, you ring the police and let them handle it.

Thats what i tell my boss but he's heck bent on enforcing the law, but hey, it grants me more money anyway ^_^

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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #8 on: October 19 2005, 10:13 am »
Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Aus its illegal to take the law into your own hands.

Contact the police and be done with it.
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #9 on: October 19 2005, 10:22 am »
Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Aus its illegal to take the law into your own hands.

Contact the police and be done with it.
It's different in different countrys mind, Remmember in the USA you can do a Citizens Arrest for a fellon. I think it is legal under circumstances to take the law (to an extenct) in your own hands over there.
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #10 on: October 19 2005, 10:26 am »
Still I think regardless it should be up to the police- its why they are there
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #11 on: October 19 2005, 10:27 am »
aw, but that takes all teh fun and thrill out of it XD

still, it makes more logical sense to let the boys in blue handle it.
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Re: Is it illegal?
« Reply #12 on: October 19 2005, 01:29 pm »
aw, but that takes all teh fun and thrill out of it XD

still, it makes more logical sense to let the boys in blue handle it.

We do, we just provide the evidence to back up the arrest warrent  :tongue3:

The officers seem to enjoy busting these guys, naturally we remain automounous(sp)

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Still I think regardless it should be up to the police- its why they are there

Here in America the police have to follow so many blasted rules and regulations that it's not even worth BEING an officer

I'd go into a rant but thats not what this thread is for :)

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