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KuroxFai- The Official Canon Gloating Thread
mela:
--- Quote from: Pikari on August 08 2006, 12:05 pm ---And I actually don't think Kuro would have done the same thing for Syaoran or Sakura. Yes, he would have tried to save them as much as he possibly could, but he *never* would have taken it as *personal* as he did saving Fai. He never even asked if there was another way, or even cared what *Fai's* opinion was, and I dare say that if anyone else would have offered to pay the price instead, he would have told them 'hell no'. I can't see him doing that for anyone else. That's just me....
Yeah, and anyone who denies they're gay at this point is obviously delusional. XD
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I agree wholeheartedly (with all of your post but this part was the main thing I wanted to talk about, haha). I don't think Kurogane would have acted in quite the same manner if it had been someone else. Not considering if it had been someone else they probably would have died from shock, but Kurogane's connection with Sakura or Syaoran isn't exactly the same. I can't even imagine Kurogane getting as emotional over the kids, as much as he cares for them. Plus, if it had been Syaoran or Sakura in that situation, someone else would have made the wish. Kurogane wouldn't have been the one who would ask Yuuko for a wish for one of the kids, considering that there are other people who would be able to do it. Kurogane would help them in any way he could, but not to the extent he was pretty much willing to do ANYTHING to save Fai, no matter what the cost.
And people who still deny the gayness are just... lol.
Sakaki:
--- Quote from: Pikari on August 08 2006, 12:05 pm ---Actually, I really disagree with this. I don't think every CLAMP character is bisexual... actually, I can't come up with *any* CLAMP character off the top of my head that is shown without question to be bisexual. If anyone can, I'd like to hear it. (And Touya/Kaho/Yukito is negated in my opinion because adolescence is a very 'in-between' age for everything.. just look at the scene where he's telling his father about it, and how awkward and confused he is about the whole thing, and the fact that Kaho kept telling him he'd find the one for him. He just needed to find his Yukito. And Kamui/Kotori/Fuuma is very friendship/sibling/questionably romantic kind of 'love'. Personally I don't see Kamui ever romantically attached to Kotori at all, only the other way around on Kotori's side.) CLAMP characters have a given gender and how they act and react to each other does depend on their gender. If you said that CLAMP is open to showing all kinds of love, whether its male/female, male/male, male/angel (in Wish ^^; ), student/teacher relationships, etc... that would be true. I think that's a very important theme running through most of their manga. I don't see how that makes every CLAMP character bisexual. Actually considering CLAMP's idea of 'soulmates' that they've made clear in Tsubasa, they've shown that every person has a 'special person just for them' (to be quoting Chobits o_O). And that one special person would have to be male or female (or, well, angel, or genderless clone, etc, in a few special situations..) ... it couldn't be both, could it? CLAMP's idea of 'destiny' itself I think nulls the fact that every character could be bisexual, if they are made for one special person, and no one else...
I think Kuro and Fai are both very male in their own personal ways and they're both very very gay. XD And Fai *is* interested in women... the same way he's interested in Sakura. As in, "This is my cute little sister/daughter and her name is Sakura-chan and isn't she just so cute with her cute little boyfriend? Now excuse me while me and Kuro-pon go in the back room, and, eh, 'discuss some important business'..." ^___^;;
And I actually don't think Kuro would have done the same thing for Syaoran or Sakura. Yes, he would have tried to save them as much as he possibly could, but he *never* would have taken it as *personal* as he did saving Fai. He never even asked if there was another way, or even cared what *Fai's* opinion was, and I dare say that if anyone else would have offered to pay the price instead, he would have told them 'hell no'. I can't see him doing that for anyone else. That's just me....
Yeah, and anyone who denies they're gay at this point is obviously delusional. XD
Um... okay, I think I'm done ranting here. *checks* Yeah, I'm done... seriously.... *runs away back to my naughty wife* It's all her fault.... I swear...
And I realize I'm several pages behind topic.... and this post was really really long.... o__x;;
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*bows down to my wife for a seriously awesome post* ^_______^ Oooh.. *bows more* XD
I agree with everything said above. Kuro and Fai are all male, all gay, the end. And hell no, Kuro wouldn't have given up his own blood for any of the rest of them. Kuro and Fai are both selfish in a way. They would only tie the other to them forever like that.
*runs off with my Pikari-chan.. to a back room, or something like that....* XD XD
Emiko:
--- Quote from: UtenaTenjou on August 06 2006, 01:42 pm ---Uhm... Are you psychic or something? XDD
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Totally psychic ;)
HAH, I found chapter 125 late, since I was away for the weekend, and low and behold, I return to find the wonder that is chapter 125. I'm so happy. I don't care what the desperate nay-sayers proclaim, it is so CANON. "His companion's feelings have reached him"?
Oh, I'm sure Clamp meant his feelings of anger. *rolls eyes*
Kirtai:
--- Quote from: Pikari on August 08 2006, 12:05 pm ---he would have tried to save them as much as he possibly could, but he *never* would have taken it as *personal* as he did saving Fai. He never even asked if there was another way, or even cared what *Fai's* opinion was, and I dare say that if anyone else would have offered to pay the price instead, he would have told them 'hell no'. I can't see him doing that for anyone else. That's just me....
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I don't disagree. It sorta brings the point home for me- had CLAMP decided to put Sakura/Syaoran/Mokona in Fai's position, there would have been others willing to step in; it wouldn't fall solely on Kuro. I do think that Kuro would go to any lengths to save the kids as well as Fai though. He's their daddy after all. But, that would just taste funny in the story. Let's see, if it were Syaoran, Syaoran wouldn't die, because he "has something he must do" or whatever. He wouldn't lose the will to live, and therefore wouldn't need any help, but if he did, Sakura would do something. If it were Sakura, Syaoran would (did) pay the price. If it were Mokona, Yuuko probably would step in and do the job. Everyone has someone who "wouldn't want them to disappear," to qoute Holic. This chapter makes the point that Kuro is Fai's "someone." And to agree with you, I don't think he would have gotten as emotional if it were anyone but Fai.
My only point was that just because he MIGHT do it for someone else doesn't negate the importance that he DID do it for Fai.
Pikari:
--- Quote from: Kirtai on August 08 2006, 01:01 pm ---My only point was that just because he MIGHT do it for someone else doesn't negate the importance that he DID do it for Fai.
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Yep, definitely don't disagree with you there.
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