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Will Fai and Kurogane become an 'official' couple by the end of Tsubasa?

But of course. They're only the cutest, best couple ever! It would be a travesty for them NOT to be together.
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Sure, it'd be sweet.
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Maybe.
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Hell no.
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Whatchya talkin' about, will? They're already making sweet, sweet love/shagging like rabbits.
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Don't know. Don't care.
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Like the idea, but highly, highly unlikely.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #140 on: July 04 2006, 07:04 am »
I've never seen the transcript people are quoting when they claim CLAMP said KuroFai was all in the fans' heads. Tha transcripts I've seen don't really suggest much either way, although Ohkawa does seem to be giggly. Mind, if you look at the CLAMP no Kiseki interviews, Ohkawa always seems to be giggly. Maybe she gets that way during interviews? Is there going to be an official transcript of the fan interviews? As in, one done by people who are not biased on the issue of KuroFai?
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #141 on: July 04 2006, 07:39 am »
Sorry, not mokona. If that name is the woman second from our left. Then yeah. I have to agree with the rest of the dialouge but I cannot agree with the first line. She said what are you thinking? Plus she did rubbed her forehead, which could have other meanings.

I find it kind of insulting that you are coming here only to contradict someone who has been a reliable member of this forum for a very long time. Maybe you don't mean it that way, it's hard to tell from forum posts sometimes. ^^; And of course you are certainly welcome to your own interpretation of what was said.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #142 on: July 04 2006, 09:00 am »
Wait...so NO-ONE said that in the current volume there was going to be a KuroxFai moment? Is this all just a big translation mixup?
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #143 on: July 04 2006, 10:58 am »
I'm very sorry if I sound insulting. Maybe there is one big translation makeup or many of us who were there at clamp focus panel and misheard it. I wish there was a transcript at the ax website. I wish they could have allow us to bring the recording device. I'm not a major supporter of kuro/tomo or kuro/fai. But even if there is kuro/fai, sweatdrop what are the odds of them doing yaoi moment? Maybe a hug, but I never seen clamp made two guys kissing. Then again, was there any kissing in clamp works at all? (Sorry I was just rambling and hadn't read all of clamp works) The closet yaoi moment I saw was psycho fuuma licking kamui's face cheek. Sorry again, I'm just new to clamp and just recently became a fan of tsubasa. Plus a friend told me about chapter downloads here, so I check this forum out. Again, sorry if I sound insulting.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #144 on: July 04 2006, 11:55 am »
No problem. It's hard to tell sometimes how someone is meaning something in a forum post. ^^
Yaoi being more graphic, I don't think anything like that would be shown. There has always been plenty of obvious touching and grabbing though between them.

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #145 on: July 04 2006, 05:01 pm »
Clamp didn't really say much about the pairing. The translator translated it as something like "(is) this what the fans want?" I thought it was an odd translation. There was a lot of giggling, I just took this as her being nervous. She never answered it... she just later said that Fai is at a tough spot right now and that the Fai fans might hate her or be mad at her....  I thought that was interesting.

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #146 on: July 04 2006, 07:23 pm »
Ahh, I've heard so many versions of what was said. Eeshk.

I don't think CLAMP would ever have yaoi (although I want it so badly) but I see them doing what happened with Touya/Yuito with the face touching and significant glances.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #147 on: July 05 2006, 02:44 am »
Argh. I guess at this point, arguing about what was said is futile, since there's no tangible evidence of what she said except for in our memories. We can interpret their words and actions in so many ways, and our minds can change what was really said. We'll just have to wait and see what Clamp will do with Kuro and Fai in the future chapters (even though to me they're already practically canon ^^).

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« Reply #148 on: July 05 2006, 05:50 am »
Argh. I guess at this point, arguing about what was said is futile, since there's no tangible evidence of what she said except for in our memories. We can interpret their words and actions in so many ways, and our minds can change what was really said. We'll just have to wait and see what Clamp will do with Kuro and Fai in the future chapters (even though to me they're already practically canon ^^).

You said it perfectly ^__^ It's all left to memory, and is influenced by prior affiliations (eg KuroFay fan), it's a translation in any case so it might have been translated slightly differently to how Ohkawa meant it. This much, I think, is certain: they didn't actually answer one way or the other xD CLAMP are good at avoiding the subject.

I also agree with you that they're practically canon; I mean, I read that someone said that the way he treats Kurogane is just his flirt-y nature - and to an extent, it is, but he doesn't treat anyone else in the same way. I mean, we've seen him glomp Syaoran, but that was more friendly (and because of the promise of alcohol, lol), but he focuses so much more of his attention on Kurogane. And Kurotan gives him the attention right back, though often in a quieter, more subtle (and ninjalike!) way.

But apart from possibly a hug if one or the other of them needs comfort, I can't see us getting any other on-screen action, as it were, alas!

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #149 on: July 16 2006, 05:58 am »
Why does this thread exist at all, by the way? There's no question if they will be canon, they already are anyway ;)
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #150 on: July 16 2006, 09:12 am »
Technically, they're fanon. It's the question of whether it'll be totally officla or not, will CLAMP show what lies between the lies? The elephant in the room: will it go unnoticed or not?
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« Reply #151 on: July 19 2006, 07:49 am »
Let me get this straight, my english needs a vocabulary update, LOL
With cannon, you mean a deffinite pairing between two? Not nesesarily homosexual?

Well, by what everyone's been talking in this forum, I say taht they will become a pair, but CLAMP wouldn't make it too noticeable, since the series if for ages 13+. Now if it were 16+ they wouldn't care.
Yet.. i could be all wrong and CLAMP will make it quite obvious because it's CLAMP and they love to surprise the fans.

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #152 on: July 19 2006, 06:18 pm »
Let me get this straight, my english needs a vocabulary update, LOL
With cannon, you mean a deffinite pairing between two? Not nesesarily homosexual?

Well, by what everyone's been talking in this forum, I say taht they will become a pair, but CLAMP wouldn't make it too noticeable, since the series if for ages 13+. Now if it were 16+ they wouldn't care.
Yet.. i could be all wrong and CLAMP will make it quite obvious because it's CLAMP and they love to surprise the fans.

I don't think age has anything to do with it. Have you ever read CCS? CCS was meant for all ages - young and old, but it's cutesy nature possibly appealed more to the younger children. That didn't stop Clamp from tossing in the Touya/Yukito pairing. It was quite obvious that that was canon, without being too obvious...if I'm making sense. If you do know what I mean then that's what I'm hoping for for Kurogane and Fai. I'm not expected anything big, but just a nice hint like with Touya and Yuki. One that canonises it without making it offending to other pairing shippers...that sort of thing.

Besides, the latest chapters of Tsubasa are...well...
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blood filled, eyes getting torn out, people's arms getting torn off...
. That - to me - kinda pushes this 13+ rating just a little...

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #153 on: July 19 2006, 11:30 pm »
Let me get this straight, my english needs a vocabulary update, LOL
With cannon, you mean a deffinite pairing between two? Not nesesarily homosexual?

A canon pairing between two characters means that the two characters are definitely in a romantic relationship in the actual series, whether the couple is homosexual, heterosexual, or if we're talking about CLAMP, involves genderless people. "Cannon" is a weapon used to fire objects at something.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #154 on: July 20 2006, 01:09 am »
I don't think age has anything to do with it. Have you ever read CCS? CCS was meant for all ages - young and old, but it's cutesy nature possibly appealed more to the younger children. That didn't stop Clamp from tossing in the Touya/Yukito pairing. It was quite obvious that that was canon, without being too obvious...if I'm making sense. If you do know what I mean then that's what I'm hoping for for Kurogane and Fai. I'm not expected anything big, but just a nice hint like with Touya and Yuki. One that canonises it without making it offending to other pairing shippers...that sort of thing.

Besides, the latest chapters of Tsubasa are...well...
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blood filled, eyes getting torn out, people's arms getting torn off...
. That - to me - kinda pushes this 13+ rating just a little...

That's very true... forgot about those two. Yeah, it was pretty clear taht something funny was going on between Touya and Yukito. And yeah you're right about the latest chapters too.
So... if they did that in CCS- that means we get more OBVIOUS KuroFye pairing? LOL

A canon pairing between two characters means that the two characters are definitely in a romantic relationship in the actual series, whether the couple is homosexual, heterosexual, or if we're talking about CLAMP, involves genderless people. "Cannon" is a weapon used to fire objects at something.

Oh! Yeah I imagined something lie taht, but didn't wnat to look stupid xD... even though I already did.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #155 on: July 21 2006, 04:03 am »
Yeah, but canon also refers to something that is factual. Like "Kurogane's hair is black" is canon.

Well, if anyone's even read or saw the anime of CCS you can't miss the Touya/Yukito relationship seeing as Yukito confesses his love of Touya to Sakura. The American one, you probably wouldn't have gotten much from it. Sadly, it doesn't mean that KxF will be canon, it means that there's more of a chance because if CLAMP had NEVER done homosexual plotlines before then our chances would be near to zero.
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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #156 on: July 21 2006, 04:44 am »
Yeah, but canon also refers to something that is factual. Like "Kurogane's hair is black" is canon.

Well, if anyone's even read or saw the anime of CCS you can't miss the Touya/Yukito relationship seeing as Yukito confesses his love of Touya to Sakura. The American one, you probably wouldn't have gotten much from it. Sadly, it doesn't mean that KxF will be canon, it means that there's more of a chance because if CLAMP had NEVER done homosexual plotlines before then our chances would be near to zero.

Well. No one sat around whining about Tokyo Babylon did they? And that's pretty prolific in homosexual relationships. And X/1999 is pretty ambiguous with it's pairings. Yeeeaaaaaah, I'm hoping for a Touya/Yuki esq. thing for Kuro and Fai. Touya and Yuki do remind me a little of Kuro and Fai...so I could see it happening. I mean, Touya never confessed like Yuki did, but he did something pretty drastic to help Yuki - sacrificing something of his for Yuki's sake.

(Who knows...Fai's in a pretty critical condition right now. Maybe we'll get something like that...and sooner than we think? XD)

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #157 on: July 21 2006, 05:27 am »
Mmmm, Clamp does like to do shounen-ai relationships... :shifty: I'm not a very fan of Kurogane/Fai pairing, it's strange *holds her hands up to avoid the bricks* BUT, I think they're very kawaii together... Strange, aren't I? :hehe:

Touya and Yuki do remind me a little of Kuro and Fai...so I could see it happening. I mean, Touya never confessed like Yuki did, but he did something pretty drastic to help Yuki - sacrificing something of his for Yuki's sake.

(Who knows...Fai's in a pretty critical condition right now. Maybe we'll get something like that...and sooner than we think? XD)

I agree with that, maybe Kuro-pii will do something drastic to help Fai, and by that maybe we'll get a hint if there is something between them...I hope so!  :greengrin:

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Re: KuroxFai- Will it be canon?
« Reply #158 on: July 21 2006, 06:55 pm »
Well I dont think so cause till now they are showing us that Kurogane is inlove with his hime, Tomoyo and Fai loves Chii and that was very clear at episode 32 ^^
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« Reply #159 on: July 21 2006, 07:14 pm »
Well I dont think so cause till now they are showing us that Kurogane is inlove with his hime, Tomoyo and Fai loves Chii and that was very clear at episode 32 ^^
But you never know this is clamp we are talking about ;)

Hmmm. See, this is where I don't like the anime. Episode 32 was a filler that Bee Train stuck in. It didn't happen in the manga...It's not part of the storyline...

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