Topic: KuroxFai- The Official Canon Gloating Thread (Read 100563 times)

Jeannette · « **on:** October 23 2005, 03:12 pm »

Okay, this it one of my burning questions about Tsubasa's ending. Since such a large number of us love the idea of KuroxFai love, while others hate it, I just thought I'd do this.

Personally, I vote for option one.Â

Or maybe five.Â

Star · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23 2005, 03:24 pm »

Number one most definitely!!

augustserenade · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23 2005, 03:31 pm »

I voted for the first choice, of course! But I felt a strong urge to click this one:

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Whatchya talkin' about, will? They're already making sweet, sweet love/shagging like rabbits.

And I was glad to see someone voted for it too! X3

Sakaki · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23 2005, 03:34 pm »

Hmmm... I debated if I should let this thread stay, because we already have so many relationship type threads, but since we have a poll going...

I personally say they are already together, (remember everything we don't know about from Shurano when they were alone for six months?) And the way they act together, it could only be love. ^__^

Meowzy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23 2005, 09:10 pm »

I've been thinking about that myself recently. For all we know, it could end up the way TomoyoxSakura ended up. Not happening. ;_;
With all my heart, i hope they will become a couple. but i've got this strange feeling Kurogane might end up with Tomoyo-hime.
let's all make protest signs and head for Japan! we'll boycot Clamp until they give us what we want!!

Alexiel · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24 2005, 12:09 am »

ROFL! I love the poll options LadyUltima

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Quote from: hoshisenshi on October 23 2005, 03:31 pm

I voted for the first choice, of course! But I felt a strong urge to click this one:

And I was glad to see someone voted for it too! X3

Hahaha! Same here

Lexi · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24 2005, 08:13 am »

OMG! I can't believe I didn't notice this poll yet >_<

Well, number 1 and number 5 were both so tempting, but I ended up choosing number 5

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*All KuroFai fans here need to believe in them that much

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Thank you, LadyUltima, for making this poll

Fai · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24 2005, 10:05 am »

There is no question to what I chose, it was number one!! This better happen..If not, us fan girls can go on dreaming

Jeannette · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24 2005, 11:15 am »

Sakaki- Yeah, there's definitely the possibility that they're already together. Recently there have been some really close, intimate scenes in the manga between the two of them that just make squee. And if they are having sex already, and/or when (not if, when, dammit!) they're together in the future, it will definitely be because they love each other. Clamp doesn't do a lot of the 'I'll have sex with you even though I don't actually love you' couples. I read a few KuroxFai fanfics like that, and absolutely hated them. I put in the 'shagging like rabbits' bit because they would most definitely be having fun...Â

Loving someone hardly means that you don't have a lot of fun in bed, you know.Â

And as for TomoyoxKuro... Even if I wasn't a rabid KuroxFai fan, I wouldn't like that pairing. It just seems too creepy for me. Yeah, Clamp's done some really really creepy pairings sometimes (EriolXKaho, anybody?) but that just seems...

And to the comment about TomoyoxSakura- that doesn't go anywhere because Sakura's supposed to be with Syaoran. There's a clear reason why poor Tomoyo is left with an unrequited crush/love/infatuation. There's no clear reason that Kuro and Fai wouldn't be able to be together. (edited to make more sense)

Meowzy, dear, I will most certainly join you in your protest if necessary.Â

Meowzy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24 2005, 09:58 pm »

Quote from: LadyUltima on October 24 2005, 11:15 am

And to the comment about comparing TomoyoxSakura- that doesn't go anywhere because Sakura's supposed to be with Syaoran. There's a clear reason why poor Tomoyo is left with an unrequited crush/love/infatuation. There's no clear reason that Kuro and Fai would be able to be together.

But see, we might be able to compare Tomoyo-hime with CCS Syaoran here. What if Kurogane is supposed to be with Tomoyo? (after a certain scene in Pfiffle country, i get this nagging suspicion.)
Orrrr, what if Fai is supposed to be with Ashura? We don't know.... *snifffff*
Maybe it would be best to compare Kurogane and Fai with Syaoran and Sakura, and compare Tomoyo-hime with... Tomoyo? XD

bLuetopaz · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24 2005, 11:34 pm »

Quote from: Meowzy on October 23 2005, 09:10 pm

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For all we know, it could end up the way TomoyoxSakura ended up. Not happening. ;_;
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yeah, i agree with Meowzy with this point.. so i voted the 2nd option..

erm, may i ask.. what does it mean by canon?

Cardcaptor Takato · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25 2005, 01:55 am »

I actually voted for the last option. As much as I like the idea of KuroxFai, I don't think it would actually happen because Tsubasa is a shounen anime. Shounen anime is as we all know is anime for boys and I doubt most of the boys Clamp is targeting Tsubasa at would like reading about a shounen-ai couple. If Tsubasa was a shoujo anime, then I could definetly see it happening, but not with it being a shounen anime. They might put in lots of hints that they are a couple and leave it open for the fans to decide, but I don't think it would become official because it'd seem too out of place in a shounen series, though somehow I feel like Kurogane would probably wind up with Tomoyohime.

Jeannette · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25 2005, 04:00 am »

Canon: an official part of the story line of a series, as opposed to fan guesses and dreams. It means it's clearly what the author(s) meant the fans to believe.

As to the comment about Tsubasa being a shonen series, and so being less likely to have a malexmale couple; that's a point, true, but Clamp's X/1999 and Tokyo Babylon technically qualify as shonen, I believe- they're hardly shoujo like CCS- but Clamp had no qualms about putting heavy shonen-ai/yaoi elements in the story. And I don't think any fans complained, considering that those are two of their most popular series.

And personally, I've never seen much in the Tomoyo/Kurogane relationship to indicate romance- just a deep respect and caring. More like a brother/sister thing, to my mind. Protectiveness doesn't mean automatic romantic interest, even between non-related couples. Besides, Tomoyo, to me, seems to be gay. I don't think she's ever been shown to have an interest in any boys, whether in CCS or Tsubasa. Her only romantic interest has been Sakura, a girl. This doesn't techincally mean much- Tomoyo could, of course, turn out to fall in love with a boy. But honestly, poor Tomoyo has always been set up as the one who lucks out- the girl who's in love with someone who happens to love someone else. I don't think Clamp would change that to give her a relationship with Kurogane.

Meowzy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25 2005, 04:27 am »

Yeah, i suppose that last thing makes sense. matching Tomoyo up with Kurogane when she was all over Sakura in CCS....
Besides, i think Kurogane is too old for her. But that might be just me. ^^'

AkaiYuki · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25 2005, 04:56 am »

*stares at option 1* ... *stares at option 5* ... *tries to click them both at the same time* Dangit! Hrrrmmmm.... Huuwaaa, FINE, I'm romance-obsessed, so number 1. Although 5 could still occur at night... Or early in the morning.. Or afternoon... ^.~ Heh heh...Â Or all day... Ehem, sorry. Yes, I love KuroFai. It fuels me. KuroTomo weirds me out, and even if I wasn't obsessed with KuroFai, KuroTomo would still give me the heebyjeebies because they just act like brother and sister to me! But, kind of in a double way. Like he looks out for her as far as physical protection goes, and she looks out for him as far as things like... hrrrm, how do you word that? She helps him... better himself? You know what I mean? So instead of him just looking out for her, they kind of look out for each other, and THAT'S cute, but them macking, is NOT. ((In my opinion, of course.))

Cardcaptor Takato · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25 2005, 06:30 am »

Quote from: LadyUltima on October 25 2005, 04:00 am

Canon: an official part of the story line of a series, as opposed to fan guesses and dreams. It means it's clearly what the author(s) meant the fans to believe.

As to the comment about Tsubasa being a shonen series, and so being less likely to have a malexmale couple; that's a point, true, but Clamp's X/1999 and Tokyo Babylon technically qualify as shonen, I believe- they're hardly shoujo like CCS- but Clamp had no qualms about putting heavy shonen-ai/yaoi elements in the story. And I don't think any fans complained, considering that those are two of their most popular series.

And personally, I've never seen much in the Tomoyo/Kurogane relationship to indicate romance- just a deep respect and caring. More like a brother/sister thing, to my mind. Protectiveness doesn't mean automatic romantic interest, even between non-related couples. Besides, Tomoyo, to me, seems to be gay. I don't think she's ever been shown to have an interest in any boys, whether in CCS or Tsubasa. Her only romantic interest has been Sakura, a girl. This doesn't techincally mean much- Tomoyo could, of course, turn out to fall in love with a boy. But honestly, poor Tomoyo has always been set up as the one who lucks out- the girl who's in love with someone who happens to love someone else. I don't think Clamp would change that to give her a relationship with Kurogane.

Except that X is a shoujo anime. Just because it's darker and more violent than CCS doesn't make it a shounen anime. And I don't know about the manga because I've only just started reading the X manga and I haven't read any of Tokyo Babylon yet, but in the anime the shounen-ai elements were something that was only hinted at. Also, X was more of an anime that's aimed at older anime fans, but Tsubasa, like CCS, is more for kids. The older male fans who watched X were probably mature enough to not let something like some shounen-ai hints bother them, but little kids, especially boys, tend to think that sort of thing is gross and they might not like Tsubasa anymore if they start adding in shounen-ai. But looking back at the series, you're probably right that Kurogane wouldn't end up with Tomoyo.

Even though the Tomoyo in Tsubasa is a different character from the Tomoyo in CCS, Fai commented in the series that people's souls will always be the same no matter which world that they're in or something like that. If that is true, then Tomoyo will probably still be a lesbian even in Tsubasa, or at least will probably be the girl that always ends up alone as you said. But I still think they would probably only leave KuroxFai open for debate and have it so that their relationship is something that's only hinted at. That way it would make everyone happy because there would still be a possibilty of Kurogane x Tomoyo for the fans that like that couple, but at the same time there would still be the possibilty of KuroxFai for the fans who like that couple instead.

Ralea · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29 2005, 10:14 am »

I voted option 2.

Again, as I said in a thread about Kurowon and Tomoyo, it's unlikely. Ninjas are all about being loyal to the people they protect. Maybe that's what Kuropon feels abou the hime.

Fye-chan · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30 2005, 04:38 am »

Sure I also think they will be a couple...but in what way...?!

Quote from: Sakaki on October 23 2005, 03:34 pm

Hmmm... I debated if I should let this thread stay, because we already have so many relationship type threads, but since we have a poll going...

I personally say they are already together, (remember everything we don't know about from Shurano when they were alone for six months?) And the way they act together, it could only be love. ^__^

HAHAHAHAHA What do you think they did??? But yeah you're right and Fye saied by himself that only Kurogane understood the language...so Fye needed him and wasn't able to go far away from him...XD
Yeah I think they will be!

Meowzy · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30 2005, 05:13 am »

Look what i made! XD
This proves that Kurogane loves Fai, and only Fai! ^_^

Fye-chan · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30 2005, 06:17 am »

Wahhh how cute!

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