Topic: TRC disscussion (random thoughts included) (Read 10547 times)

Okamirei · « **on:** April 11 2005, 07:10 am »

I thought since we always get off-topic in "one-topic" boards, it'd be better if we had one board with spread thoughts^^....so Lumiz-san wouldn't go mad

Espo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11 2005, 08:00 am »

Good idea

Read the rules please. Thanks.

Kasumi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11 2005, 08:34 am »

Yup, good idea.. i'll 'start'...

i wonder how Chii will be able to contact Fai if Ashura wakes up... and what could happen if he wakes up? I mean, has Fai done anything 'illegal' or bad???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sya0ran · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11 2005, 08:40 am »

Good idea, Okamirei-san but would't this board get a bit long? lol

Quote from: Kasumi on April 11 2005, 08:34 am

Yup, good idea.. i'll 'start'...

i wonder how Chii will be able to contact Fai if Ashura wakes up... and what could happen if he wakes up? I mean, has Fai done anything 'illegal' or bad???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

There's probably something more going on between Ashura and Fai like some unsolved argument or something. When I read the latest chapters of TRC and Kuro-ku mentioned Ashura, Fai got this dark, gloomy and serious look whiich is unlike him at all!

Also, were probably bound to see Chii again sometime soon because we saw Ashura (other Ashura but still! XD) and she'll maybe remember Fai. All we can really do is wait patiently 'til CLAMP answers these questions for us in the manga series. >>; VERY patiently...lol

Lexi · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11 2005, 08:46 am »

Quote from: Kasumi on April 11 2005, 08:34 am

Yup, good idea.. i'll 'start'...

i wonder how Chii will be able to contact Fai if Ashura wakes up... and what could happen if he wakes up? I mean, has Fai done anything 'illegal' or bad???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I was just wondering that while I was watching TRC episode 1! Hm...Fai has a thick air of mystery around him, so it's pretty hard to say what would happen. Plus CLAMP hasn't given quite as much info on Fai's past yet except for hints of his relationship with Ashura~

Sya0ran · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11 2005, 08:48 am »

Yeah, you're right. But, were only on Volume 11 and Chapter 74 so we can't rush them. ^^; They'll eventually hint some more thiings about Fai and Ashura later on in the manga. =)

Lexi · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11 2005, 09:38 am »

Quote from: Sya0ran on April 11 2005, 08:48 am

Yeah, you're right. But, were only on Volume 11 and Chapter 74 so we can't rush them. ^^; They'll eventually hint some more thiings about Fai and Ashura later on in the manga. =)

Yup, of course!Â It'll be interesting to see what really happened between Fai and Ashura.Â *nudges CLAMP "Hurry up a bit, k?"*

Kasumi · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11 2005, 12:19 pm »

yeah... i wanna go to japan and point them with my katana until they explain us all the fuss ^^U
well... Fai... my misterious Fai... ahhh, it would be interesting if chii appeared in some of the worlds ^^ imagine the look in his face xD

Bao_Nhia_Yang · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11 2005, 01:11 pm »

i have a question about this ashura person... who is he? and why can't he wake up? maybe two questions!

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11 2005, 03:47 pm »

What I'd like to know is who's that guy with the moncole in his eye and that girl who works for him. That's been bugging me for some time, I hope someone can help me out.

Tune · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11 2005, 09:00 pm »

but...but its a spoiler if you dont know who THAT guy is & we tell you~:P, you'll find out soon enuff~

coz its really obvious whats he's after and his relation is revealed in 1 of the later volumes

fr my research: ashura appeared in the manga RG Veda done by CLAMP (duh~!!), he/she seems to have several forms (?! i dont understand that either~!!) remember ashura in vol. 8 & 9~? (human & statue forms) she seems to be 1 of the forms of the "ashura" in celes country, or so what the manga of RG Veda has~~i havent read it, i bumped across the info in a character guide somewhere~i dont remember~...

but it sure is intriguating...the way fye speaks about ashura, it seems that ashura is after his neck or something more worse than that such that fye has to travel * run across not different places in celes but across dimensions...is it possible to rule out that fye did something that angered ashura so~? perhapes the "putting ashura asleep in the pond-thingy" is 1 of them...then why has fye got to run if he was the 1 who put ashura asleep, cant he do it again? if fye put ashura asleep, this points again to fye trying to buy time for his escape (coz of his actions we are still not in the know about??hmmz....) to dimensions~? & the tattoo that yuuko took fr fye as payment for using mokona to travel, i suppose its possible to rule out that its a weapon/tool (like kurogane & his sword) which he later says that he uses magic with & refuses to use magic without it which again he later states to yuuko. thus he can use magic WITHOUT the tattoo but fye doesnt strike me as an fool who doesnt want to use his magic when the time calls of it (life danger situations like the time wif the melting bubbles) or is it rather he CAN'T use it~? is it probable too that if he uses magic then he'll weaken/degenarate coz of the loss of his tattoo??

bleh~i'm juz ruling out my thoughts~~

scarecrow_wingz · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11 2005, 09:48 pm »

fye is very mysterious - i agree wtih Tune. but you know...i don't think fye would've put Ashura to sleep...i mean...from the looks of things Ashura is stronger than Fye - if he wasn't Fye woudln't need to run away from him in the first place

Tune · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11 2005, 10:01 pm »

hmmz...i was thinking that fye somehow ambushed/trick ashura to being put into his slping state now...kinda a pure dumb luck that fye gets a chance

rather: fye did something that'll anger ashura
>ashura has a suspicion but doesnt jump on fye directly
>fye knows* he's being suspected and 1 day dealt with, obviously not kindly
>fye strikes at ashura when he gets the chance and makes a break for it

ahh...juz my guess~

lumizstar · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11 2005, 11:24 pm »

Quote from: Okamirei on April 11 2005, 07:10 am

I thought since we always get off-topic in "one-topic" boards, it'd be better if we had one board with spread thoughts^^....so Lumiz-san wouldn't go mad

Off-topic:
Lol. I'm not mad, but the admins/mod wanted to clean up just then the board won't look so messy, and also the discipline the rules-violators. But I'm sure none of you have to worry atm

I mean, the person mad maybe LW or SLi,

Anwayz, I think the past of the both of them is the key (well, everyone knows that), and I thik might be something that made their relation dangerous, and it was a must to put him to sleep. I don't think Fye is really that evil

Moreoever, this is a plot mystery *twisted*, and this is what keeps us reading. Maybe somehow it would reveal to be something very unexpected (i.e. maybe it just looks like Fye who did it) The first impression I got from it, is that rather Ashura was in a dangerous state, and he was somehow driven into the evilness, then Fye was forced to put him to sleep.

Blah, my observations only.

Quote from: Tune on April 11 2005, 09:00 pm

but...but its a spoiler if you dont know who THAT guy is & we tell you~:P, you'll find out soon enuff~ coz its really obvious whats he's after and his relation is revealed in 1 of the later volumes

fr my research: ashura appeared in the manga RG Veda done by CLAMP (duh~!!), he/she seems to have several forms (?! i dont understand that either~!!) remember ashura in vol. 8 & 9~? (human & statue forms) she seems to be 1 of the forms of the "ashura" in celes country, or so what the manga of RG Veda has~~i havent read it, i bumped across the info in a character guide somewhere~i dont remember~...

but it sure is intriguating...the way fye speaks about ashura, it seems that ashura is after his neck or something more worse than that such that fye has to travel * run across not different places in celes but across dimensions...is it possible to rule out that fye did something that angered ashura so~? perhapes the "putting ashura asleep in the pond-thingy" is 1 of them...then why has fye got to run if he was the 1 who put ashura asleep, cant he do it again? if fye put ashura asleep, this points again to fye trying to buy time for his escape (coz of his actions we are still not in the know about??hmmz....) to dimensions~? & the tattoo that yuuko took fr fye as payment for using mokona to travel, i suppose its possible to rule out that its a weapon/tool (like kurogane & his sword) which he later says that he uses magic with & refuses to use magic without it which again he later states to yuuko. thus he can use magic WITHOUT the tattoo but fye doesnt strike me as an fool who doesnt want to use his magic when the time calls of it (life danger situations like the time wif the melting bubbles) or is it rather he CAN'T use it~? is it probable too that if he uses magic then he'll weaken/degenarate coz of the loss of his tattoo??

bleh~i'm juz ruling out my thoughts~~

I agree with your observations on the magic bit

Tune · « **Reply #14 on:** April 11 2005, 11:33 pm »

but if ashura IS evil, then wouldnt leaving chii in celes country be a suicidal act? if chii is held hostage when ashura awakens, then fye MUST go back to celes country to attemp to save chii. fye doesnt seem to be the guy who'd wanna endanger the ppl whom he cares about...

lumizstar · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11 2005, 11:36 pm »

Quote from: Tune on April 11 2005, 11:33 pm

but if ashura IS evil, then wouldnt leaving chii in celes country be a suicidal act? if chii is held hostage when ashura awakens, then fye MUST go back to celes country to attemp to save chii. fye doesnt seem to be the guy who'd wanna endanger the ppl whom he cares about...

He might not be evil, but surely something wrong happened between Fye and him, and it wasn't something nice to me. I think it would be rather Chii is left there to make sure he remains sleeping (and to tell Fye when he awakens), and possibly he will only go after Fye, but not just anyone.

Tune · « **Reply #16 on:** April 11 2005, 11:40 pm »

come to think of it...what powers do ashura have?...if such that fye has to travel dimensions, does that also mean that ashura can also travel dimensions, if that is true, should ashura be targeted by the evil wu*something* reed (i forgot his name really~

) coz the tension between him & yuuko seems to be building up~~

lumizstar · « **Reply #17 on:** April 11 2005, 11:46 pm »

Quote from: Tune on April 11 2005, 11:40 pm

come to think of it...what powers do ashura have?...if such that fye has to travel dimensions, does that also mean that ashura can also travel dimensions, if that is true, should ashura be targeted by the evil wu*something* reed (i forgot his name really~ ) coz the tension between him & yuuko seems to be building up~~

Possible. But maybe its because Yuuko is more "famous" and maybe its the past related thingy again.

Just speculation.

Tune · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11 2005, 11:52 pm »

yeaps, but once ashura shows up, that'll mean a dramatic enterence not only for fye but the entire TRC~

and 1 more spectaculation: ashura is evil but has good-guy mottos~~ehehhh~~does it make sense???~

Tune · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12 2005, 12:57 am »

after a good cup of oolong tea, this too imaginative mind speaks again~

i'd refer back to when i blab a buncha words on the magic fye could but wouldnt use. when i said "...he can use...." and "...yet he CAN'T use..." it was kinda contridictory but i meant something like this "he wants to use magic, his instinct is to cast a hocus-pocus or whatever but his heart steps forward and says 'stop' ". i hope this'll help understand the picture, coz for this, i'd wanna correct that probably the usage of magic would cost him his life since my image is that if he'd choose between wearing off/exhaustion fr usage of magic or death fr enemy's strike, he'd choose magic. (yeap, this seems more serious than the last suggestion)

-OR-

this might have to concern chii, since chii DID mention that fye created her, the degeneration/life-endangering might link to her

-THE LAST POSSIBLE THOUGHT I'LL POINT TO-

fye is actually evil *ekkk~dont hit me*
i actually have no wish of developing this spectaculation (my mind says stop) but it likely has the chance of 0.001% since every1 agrees that not much has been revealed about fye and/or his past.
but even if he is evil, i hope that this journey that he embarked with the gang'll change him for the better.....

Espo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12 2005, 01:50 am »

Yes, Fye may be evil... * ponders * Don't worry, I won't hit you! lol.

But as you say it is probably unlikely, since well, the fans are roling in for him... they may kill CLAMP again if he's evil...

Tune · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12 2005, 02:36 am »

yeaps~:D the fans will attempt to do that, but if fye is evil, it might be revealed in 1 or 2 vols only and he becomes a good guy in the next~~

fans wont have the time to raid CLAMP~~~

Little Wolf · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12 2005, 02:44 am »

^ That's the 5000th post in the forum. Congratulations Tune...you've just won yourself 3 cookies!

Tune · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12 2005, 02:49 am »

errr?!?! Y..YAY~~~

dint quite expect this~

i wanna add some discussion for tml: can we goto another character now? how bout syaoran? i can sleep while thinking up all the possibilities~

Espo · « **Reply #24 on:** April 12 2005, 05:16 am »

Yeah, if they have it in one volume then the next, CLAMP won't get killed.

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #25 on:** April 12 2005, 06:46 am »

Quote from: Tune on April 11 2005, 09:00 pm

but...but its a spoiler if you dont know who THAT guy is & we tell you~:P, you'll find out soon enuff~ coz its really obvious whats he's after and his relation is revealed in 1 of the later volumes

I don't mind spoilers though XD; <-*is a spoiler freak* and DelRey is being very slow with releasing the mangas --;; Grrr....curse them. Maybe I should read those text translations I found on this one website. At least I'd be up to date like everyone else.

Kasumi · « **Reply #26 on:** April 12 2005, 08:20 am »

Chotto matte!!!! Don't go to another character yet!! xD I have some rambling left about my beloved Fai-chan! xD

Yes... Fai MAY be evil.. it's quite an scary possibility taht me and my friends have been working out... because of that always smiley faÃ§ade (which I cant help but LOOOOVE) hiding something rather depressing, horrible or evil... who knows? Only Fai himself...

But, I like to think that he is not, and that he's actually escaping from his country because of Ashura... now that would make Asuhra-ou bad... maybe something terrible would happen if Ashura woke up... o_o remember all those dead people in Celes? Maybe Fai was doing everything for the good of his country (since he's a lead wizard ^o^) and has to escape to find.. err... something xD he just wants to run away, we knoe it, but he may have a hidden reason....
Or, Ahura may not be bad, but he (or is it she? o_o) and Fai may have some troubling issues... could be that Fai wants some time... but if Ashura has the power to wake up some day... i don't see how just escaping could help him.. BESIDES.... Fai told Chii to warn him whenever Ashura woke up so.......

Ah, and i'm not worrying for Chii xD since Fai made her

she's not really human xD

Chii could have interdimensional powers... maybe it is a power that Fai gave to her... otherwise how could she warn him? but Ashura could stop her? or maybe Chii has some kind of alert connected to Fai... and why did Fai have to change her form??? Chii may be some kind of shield....

Ahhh... so many open answers and interrogants >.<

Tune · « **Reply #27 on:** April 12 2005, 12:39 pm »

yeaps~i'd have to agree with that too~

its certain that fye is running and running wont solve anything so probably the manga will reveal fye's past soon coz almost all of the other characters already have their past & goals crystal clear~

he's the odd 1 out now~~~~

Kasumi · « **Reply #28 on:** April 12 2005, 01:20 pm »

That gives me some relief ^^ thanks, i'll be able to sleep today xD

Tune · « **Reply #29 on:** April 12 2005, 01:52 pm »

sleep tight dont let the bedbugs bite~

~and we can continue on another character? who's next?? any1 has any suggestions?~~

Kasumi · « **Reply #30 on:** April 13 2005, 06:53 am »

KURONIN! xD Let's start with Kurotan!!!! xD his relationship with Tomoyo-hime!!!!!!! *-*
And what about the 'curse' he has on???
Will he be able to get his sword ever again???

xD Ok, I started... enter the first theory xD

Bao_Nhia_Yang · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13 2005, 08:06 am »

know how tomoyo put the curse on him in the manga? did she in the anime also? i remember just reading the part how he wanted to be stronger and then he was sent to other worlds of demons and yada yada.. i saw the curse on his forehead before he was dragged down.. but i wasn't sure if it was the same curse as the one in the manga..

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #32 on:** April 13 2005, 02:03 pm »

Quote from: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 13 2005, 08:06 am

know how tomoyo put the curse on him in the manga? did she in the anime also? i remember just reading the part how he wanted to be stronger and then he was sent to other worlds of demons and yada yada.. i saw the curse on his forehead before he was dragged down.. but i wasn't sure if it was the same curse as the one in the manga..

I would assume so since the animators wanted to follow the manga very closely but not too close that they're the same.

Tune · « **Reply #33 on:** April 13 2005, 09:32 pm »

that'll be a prob...coz kurogane has to get back to the japan he lives in 1st and fr what i think, that'll not be in a while or so and if the gang did reach that japan, i guess kurogane's deal with yuuko will be done and he wont be able to travel with the gang~and THAT wont be fun coz fye & mokona wont have any1 to piss off~

whats more, kurogane has yet to finish training syaoran, that'll be until syaoran at least gets stronger than kurogane i think, coz they are the main characters anyway~~and we cant forget that since the wu *something* reed (yea, thats right, i'm too lazy to go find out his name~

) guy can somehow control the dimensions they land in, there wont be a big chance that they'll land in tomoyo's japan, unless tomoyo makes a trade wif yuuko like ashura (the beautiful statue in vol

made wif yuuko...but that'll be quite a special situation....

scarecrow_wingz · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18 2005, 08:13 pm »

nah i don't think he's evil...he just has a deep and mysterious past. yeah i reckon ashura was tricked by fye as well

i think chii's spell is more complicated than appearing in front of fye when ashura wakes. it's magical remember, he probably feels chii's msg.

Okamirei · « **Reply #35 on:** April 24 2005, 02:34 pm »

*random thought*
Tomoyo greatly reminds me of Konoka from Mahou Sensei Negima...

Okamirei · « **Reply #36 on:** June 08 2005, 12:48 pm »

*yet another random thought*

do you think they'll travel to a "western" like world? with cowboys and stuff?

Miss Jenni-Maie · « **Reply #37 on:** June 08 2005, 01:26 pm »

That would be very amusing. Syaoran in a cowboy outfit! Kawaii! [drools]

Kitsune-chan · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25 2005, 05:32 am »

Quote from: Okamirei on June 08 2005, 12:48 pm

*yet another random thought*

do you think they'll travel to a "western" like world? with cowboys and stuff?

aha..cool!

I liked the race in Piffle....almost all the characters from the previous volumes were in the race, ne?

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AuthorTopic: TRC disscussion (random thoughts included) (Read 10547 times)