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sakura and syaoran... family related???
« on: February 19 2006, 03:39 pm »
ok, maybe the title might sound a little dumbish, but ....
in CCS (manga), Clow divides his soul in two, and the halves go to: Eriol and Sakura's father. Also, Syaroan is a descendant from Clow, so here, both are related to Clow.
in TRC, Sakura's father is Clow.... so though the dimensions are different, Sakura and Syaoran are always somehow related to Clow. And there's still another one! the other Syaroan, (the one with the tatoos) must be somehow, related to Fai Wan Reed (you know, the evil guy) who's ALSO related to Clow.

so... what do you think?

----and who knows, maybe in another dimension they're (incestuos) brothers!  :hehe:
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #1 on: February 19 2006, 03:51 pm »
hummmm...kinda confusing..but still make sense somehow...
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« Reply #2 on: February 19 2006, 03:54 pm »
well yeah... i always get my ideas all crumbled up... sorry
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #3 on: February 20 2006, 07:59 am »
eh wouldn't be too good for their kids X_X  but you never know if sakura has his genes or if when clow split he created two different people who don't have the same genes as he did [they look different right? a different phenotype must have resulted from a changed genotype]...

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #4 on: February 20 2006, 10:29 am »
lol...very scientific there pyn. To me, I think that they're not related...it just doesn't seem right if they're related. but who knows. =P
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« Reply #5 on: February 20 2006, 11:30 am »
eh wouldn't be too good for their kids X_X but you never know if sakura has his genes or if when clow split he created two different people who don't have the same genes as he did [they look different right? a different phenotype must have resulted from a changed genotype]...
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« Reply #6 on: February 20 2006, 11:53 am »
I don't think they are blood related.

I'm back with my crazy theory, I think the father of Sakura in TRC is Eriol not Clow (remenber un CCS manga there is a part in wich they say that Eriol use his magic to stop growing and help sakura, so Eriol have to have the same age as Fujitaka).

And if Clow split his soul in two that doesn't mean they have the same blood, maybe the same spiritual descendant.  But not the blood.

In any case, I think Fujitaka in TRC found Shaoran in the street.  He is not blood descendant of Fujitaka. So... Anything could be...

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« Reply #7 on: February 20 2006, 11:36 pm »
well....It sounds a bit strange... :sweatdrop:
in my opinion,  sakura and syao aren't family related, but syao is probably related with clowreed and fai wongreed. :wink:
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #8 on: February 21 2006, 08:35 am »
I really don't think..CLAMP would put some odd things like htat..

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #9 on: March 05 2006, 02:59 pm »
Lol confusing.
CCS Syaoran Clow's blood decendant.
CCS Sakura is Clow's reencarnation decendant. Genetics arnt involved just the soul so we hopefuly wont get any big headed babies O.o.
However TRC Sakura is Clow's blood decendant, and maybe the same Clow as CCS Syaoran.
Worrying thought. If TRC Syaoran is Fai Wong Reed's son or something that would make him and Sakura cousins or something O.o. Lets hope he's just a random FWR picked up off the street lol.

Random inscest fact: If you take one person, plus their 2 parents, their 4 grandparents, 8 GGparents etc in a couple 100 generations (can't remember exact number) you've go more people than ever lived "related" to you. And that doesnt take into account if you're just one race >.> theres a little bit on incest on every family.

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #10 on: March 06 2006, 04:29 pm »
No, Sakura and Syaoran are not related, in both CCS and TRC.
CCS world have teachers in love with their students, vise versa, Touya and Yuki as a pair, and other little bits, but Syaoran is Chinese, as in Sakura is Japanese. Clow Reed of CCS was half Chinese/ half British.
TRC Sakura was born in Clow, Syaoran, as of yet, has no known birth place. I could go on with this but...
Now in CCS world, Fei Wong is Clow Reeds brother, in TRC world, he is not related.
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #11 on: March 08 2006, 02:34 pm »
But... there are 2 Clow Reeds? CCS and TRC? And what happens with the one in XXXHolic? is that another one?
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« Reply #12 on: March 08 2006, 03:34 pm »
But... there are 2 Clow Reeds? CCS and TRC? And what happens with the one in XXXHolic? is that another one?

We have no idea about that. I think that Clow really isn't dead, even though CCS says he is.

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #13 on: March 08 2006, 04:26 pm »
You are right SLi, Clow isn't American, sorry about that...
Now the one in XXXHolic, I think she was talking about CCS Clow Reed, since at the time she was holding CCS's Sakura's 1st wand..They only way I think she might now Clow is by magic, and if you hadn't noticed from the first CCS Moive, The woman who loved Clow, The woman and Yuko look alike in away.

This is getting strange, because also in the CCS Anime and Manga, Sakura's and Touya's father was an orphan, could his parents be related more to Syorans?
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« Reply #14 on: March 08 2006, 05:13 pm »
I always got the impression that it was always the same Clow, he screwed around with time and space and Yuuko (:D), so I guess I thought it wouldnt be that weird if it was. We may never know.

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #15 on: March 10 2006, 06:53 am »
Hmmm...interesting idea, but I agree with statements above that say it isn't true. I don't really think it could be possible either, due to the fact this is an 'alternate world' manga, so despite people being the same, the conditions in which they live change. Probably like parents or something.

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« Reply #16 on: March 14 2006, 10:46 am »
I always got the impression that it was always the same Clow, he screwed around with time and space and Yuuko (:D), so I guess I thought it wouldnt be that weird if it was. We may never know.

I agree. I think it's the same Clow. Notice how he's dead or gone or whatever in both worlds? I think Sakura was his daughter in the land of Clow and that's why he wanted to help her in our world.
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #17 on: March 14 2006, 01:10 pm »
ok, maybe the title might sound a little dumbish, but ....
in CCS (manga), Clow divides his soul in two, and the halves go to: Eriol and Sakura's father. Also, Syaroan is a descendant from Clow, so here, both are related to Clow.
in TRC, Sakura's father is Clow.... so though the dimensions are different, Sakura and Syaoran are always somehow related to Clow. And there's still another one! the other Syaroan, (the one with the tatoos) must be somehow, related to Fai Wan Reed (you know, the evil guy) who's ALSO related to Clow.

so... what do you think?

----and who knows, maybe in another dimension they're (incestuos) brothers! :hehe:

I'd have to agree about the CCS theory, it makes sense. Not sure about TRC though...

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« Reply #18 on: March 14 2006, 02:12 pm »
I agree. I think it's the same Clow. Notice how he's dead or gone or whatever in both worlds? I think Sakura was his daughter in the land of Clow and that's why he wanted to help her in our world.

I have to agree with that theory too, since Yuuko seems to tie them both together. When she talks about Clow to Watanuki, she says he's the one that made CCS Sakura's staff. But then she also talks about Clow to Fei Wong, so it seems to be the same Clow that Fei Wong knows. There's some kind of connection. Exactly what, don't ask me. ^^;;

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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #19 on: March 16 2006, 03:21 pm »
Wow.. everyone's related to Clow... Maybe he's GOD. O.O No no, you guys know I'm kidding...

Anyway, yeah I'd say that CCS one sounds possible, but I think they'd be a bit too distantly related for it to have any effect on their kids, so don't worry, minna...

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« Reply #20 on: March 26 2006, 09:41 am »
Uhhhhhhhh.....it kinda makes sense, but it's kinda confusing 2....@.@

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« Reply #21 on: June 08 2006, 06:26 pm »
sakura and syaoran related hmm? well...

Clow-san's mother is Chinese, his father is British... and Syaoran came from Clow's mother's side of the family so Syaoran is Clow's descendant...

in the manga, Clow split his soul into 2: Eriol and Fujitaka...
and Fujitaka's past was never known (this was mentioned somewhere in the manga... i think by sonomi) because he's one of Clow's reincarnates. CCS Fujitaka is Sakura's father, but he doesn't have Clow's blood as Clow never had children. he never had a relationship with a woman (as far as I know... )

so Sakura can't be related to Syaoran as Fujitaka only has part of Clow's soul (not blood)

and for TRC... well everyone is different.... Sakura is the daughter of Clow and Syaoran is adopted by Fujitaka... so Fujitaka isnt a Clow reincarnate... as for Fei Wong Reed, i think i heard or read somewhere that he's related to Clow...

his ancestor is Clow Reed or something...

and i think that the xxxHOLiC Clow is the same Clow as in TRC and in CCS (now it's getting confusing! ahehe :sweatdrop:) because Yuko-san had a replica of Sakura's 1st sealing wand/staff. And she mentioned something to Watanuki about 'the girl' which is Kinomoto Sakura.
Then Yuko created the Mokonas with Clow, to be prepared when the 'children' --> as in TRC Sakura and Syaoran, arrive.

so basically.... i'm also confused. I just gave out my opinion... ahehehe :keke:
oh yeah, and did anyone notice high priest Yukito's staff? it was like the moon shaped thingy that was supposed to be at the back of the Clow book symbolizing Yue, right?
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #22 on: June 08 2006, 06:59 pm »
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CCS World: Fujitaka was said to be an orphan, having family that died when he was just a baby, as well as Erol, Clows other reincornation, Fujitaka being Japanese, having no memory of his past self and Erol being british, having the memory of his past self, these two are not related by blood.Yukito/Yue and Kero, is Clows children, acording to him, not by blood, Yue would say other wise. Clows brother/Sister/whatever family memeber, would be that of Chinese, Syaoran's family, and European, possably Erol's family, since he had no children in the CCS world that we know of, as of yet, so is Sakura related to Syaoran in the CCS World, no.....Clow, when he knew he was going to die, made it so that Yue would fall for his new master/mistress, but Clow didn't see the birth of Touya, threw a rench in his plans didn't he, who would steal Yukito/Yue's heart, and that of his desendent Syaoran would fall for Sakura, but Clow made sure that eveything would be ok for the girl in the end.

TRC world:  Fujitaka is Syaorans adoptive father, and in the manga, Fujitaka was from another land before he came to Kingdom of Clow, where he would make it a home from time to time. The King Clow, 1st meet Fujitaka when they started talking about the ruins, and later to introduce Sakura and Syaoran, in this world, Clow Reed is Sakura and Touya's father by blood, and Fujitaka has no children by blood, only Syaoran as an adpote. While Syaoran is staying with Fujitaka, another Syaoran was with Fei wong Reed, Clow Reeds of CCS younger brother, in a tube for CLAMP knows how long, these two could either be one person spilt in two, a clone, or that of twins, good one bad one kind of thing, and being related to Fei wong Reed by another family memeber, as the girl that is with him always looks at him with sad eyes. So in the TRC world, is or could they be blood related? Yes, maybe being distant cousinse, and No, since Fei wong Reed is that of the CCS univers.
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #23 on: June 14 2006, 07:17 am »
sakura and syaoran related hmm? well...

Clow-san's mother is Chinese, his father is British... and Syaoran came from Clow's mother's side of the family so Syaoran is Clow's descendant...

in the manga, Clow split his soul into 2: Eriol and Fujitaka...
and Fujitaka's past was never known (this was mentioned somewhere in the manga... i think by sonomi) because he's one of Clow's reincarnates. CCS Fujitaka is Sakura's father, but he doesn't have Clow's blood as Clow never had children. he never had a relationship with a woman (as far as I know... )

so Sakura can't be related to Syaoran as Fujitaka only has part of Clow's soul (not blood)

and for TRC... well everyone is different.... Sakura is the daughter of Clow and Syaoran is adopted by Fujitaka... so Fujitaka isnt a Clow reincarnate... as for Fei Wong Reed, i think i heard or read somewhere that he's related to Clow...

his ancestor is Clow Reed or something...

and i think that the xxxHOLiC Clow is the same Clow as in TRC and in CCS (now it's getting confusing! ahehe :sweatdrop:) because Yuko-san had a replica of Sakura's 1st sealing wand/staff. And she mentioned something to Watanuki about 'the girl' which is Kinomoto Sakura.
Then Yuko created the Mokonas with Clow, to be prepared when the 'children' --> as in TRC Sakura and Syaoran, arrive.

so basically.... i'm also confused. I just gave out my opinion... ahehehe :keke:
oh yeah, and did anyone notice high priest Yukito's staff? it was like the moon shaped thingy that was supposed to be at the back of the Clow book symbolizing Yue, right?
yyuko-chan said that? wow...maybe, we'll see S&S from CCS in TRC o.O

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« Reply #24 on: June 17 2006, 05:42 am »
now... chapter 119 has changed many things. TRC syaoran IS related to clow too! this is so interesting...

and yeah, i know Fujitaka(CCS) is Clow in soul and not in blood (as moko-chan said), but that doesnt matter! dont you think its interesting how clow is related (be it blood or spiritually) to syaoran and sakura? theres a weird triangle between them...

i hope CLAMP reveals more of this odd binding between the three in further chapters hehehe

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« Reply #25 on: June 17 2006, 05:50 am »
I think that Sakura isn't really Clow Reed's daughter. Or it doesn't matter, because it's a Clow reed from a different dimension... Then again, I doubt there were more Clow Reeds...
But then how does that tie in with CCS?
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Re: sakura and syaoran... family related???
« Reply #26 on: July 29 2006, 11:38 am »
the appearance of the lin shan pan and all the transfer of Syaoran's magic (the talisman, sword and all) from CCS in Chapt 123 makes me wonder if the R!Syaoran posses Clow's magic (as in  the magic source he used in CCS is partly from Clow).. if he does, doesn't that make him relate to Clow too?

If Sakura and Syaoran are related doesn't it make their relationship an incent one?! O.o

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