Topic: CLAMP and the symbolism of eyes (Read 14868 times)

Sailor Yue-chan · « **on:** April 29 2006, 05:43 pm »

between CLAMPs 2 newesty creations (TRC and HOLiC), theres alot of themes dealing with the right eye:
[may have spoilers, but im posting whats been revealed in the anime of TRC.]

TRC: Syaoran is blind in the right eye
TRC: Seishiro gave his right eye up inorder to transport dimensions
TRC: Fei Wang reed wears his monocle on his right eye.

(holic vol 7/8 spiolers)
HOLiC:

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Doumeki had a spider web over his right eye for angering a spider spirit.

HOLiC:

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Watenuki traded his right eye so doumeki can have his.

HOLiC:

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Watenuki and Doumeki share their right eyes, doumeki gave up half of his to watenuki.

any other right eye themes in TRC/holic? (or other CLAMP animes/mangas

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #1 on:** April 29 2006, 06:10 pm »

Tokyo Bablon: Seichiro lost it saving Subaru
X: Subaru lost his to Fumma
MKR: I can't remeber

ishiyaki · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04 2006, 01:38 am »

Quote from: SailorYue on April 29 2006, 05:43 pm

between CLAMPs 2 newesty creations (TRC and HOLiC), theres alot of themes dealing with the right eye:
[may have spoilers, but im posting whats been revealed in the anime of TRC.]

TRC: Syaoran is blind in the right eye
TRC: Seishiro gave his right eye up inorder to transport dimensions
TRC: Fei Wang reed wears his monocle on his right eye.

(holic vol 7/8 spiolers)
HOLiC:
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Doumeki had a spider web over his right eye for angering a spider spirit.

HOLiC:
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Watenuki traded his right eye so doumeki can have his.

HOLiC:
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Watenuki and Doumeki share their right eyes, doumeki gave up half of his to watenuki.

any other right eye themes in TRC/holic? (or other CLAMP animes/mangas

mmmmmm.....good observation...I'd give you a cookie, but I can't...^_^U

Jeannette · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04 2006, 03:52 am »

X:

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After Seishirou dies, Fuuma gives Subaru Seishirou's remaining eye to replace the eye Subaru had lost; Seishirou had been jealous and upset that Fuuma had hurt Subaru, and wanted to give Subaru his eye to erase the scar Fuuma had left on Subaru.

WISH:

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Kokuyo gives his eye to Hisui as a sign of his love.

yume-chan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06 2006, 12:40 am »

oh, interesting! ^^

Pikari · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06 2006, 09:46 am »

RG Veda:

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Yasha and Taishakuten both injured and/or lost their right eyes at the end of the series.

monkey · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06 2006, 10:05 am »

maybe the CLAMP girls have a right eye fetish?

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06 2006, 02:07 pm »

probly. i just took notice of the right eye thing between TRC and holic and got curios whther it was in any of the other manga/animes

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06 2006, 03:12 pm »

The right Eye is to be, what I was told a long time ago, a gate way to ones soul, and the seer of truth, the left eye is to be that of the heart and streangth of a person.

Also found this:

The right eye - the eye of buddhi, of wisdom and of vision.
The left eye - the eye of mind, of the common sense and of sight.

Hope this helps

Jeannette · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06 2006, 03:21 pm »

Quote from: Pikari on May 06 2006, 09:46 am

RG Veda:
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Yasha and Taishakuten both injured and/or lost their right eyes at the end of the series.

XD I haven't finished reading RG Veda, but I've heard about that.

Quote from: Smile_For_Me on May 06 2006, 03:12 pm

The right Eye is to be, what I was told a long time ago, a gate way to ones soul, and the seer of truth, the left eye is to be that of the heart and streangth of a person.

Also found this:

The right eye - the eye of buddhi, of wisdom and of vision.
The left eye - the eye of mind, of the common sense and of sight.

Hope this helps

O_O Oh wow, thanks for the info... I'll have to consider the symbology behind all the stories now...

Et3rnal x WiNGS · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07 2006, 04:53 am »

yeah that's true...Syaoran's blinded on the right...and Seishirou-san is blind on this right eye cause gave it to travel through dimensions...and how did he save Suburu? from another world, not in Outo? and yeah true...Fei Wang Reed <-- o_o

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #11 on:** May 07 2006, 03:18 pm »

Well if all signs point to Seishirou, in either X or TRC, Subaru will fell some guilt for him losing his eye to save him/ or try to find him, for which the Subaru of TB/X did, so it might be possable that Subaru of TRC might be missing his right eye as well?

Confused? Very...

And I wanted to know another thing about Syaoran's eye, I wonder how he lost it?

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07 2006, 03:21 pm »

Quote from: Smile_For_Me on May 07 2006, 03:18 pm

And I wanted to know another thing about Syaoran's eye, I wonder how he lost it?

dunno, it might have something to do with the OTHER syaroan. he's blind in his left eye.

~Emethyst~ · « **Reply #13 on:** May 08 2006, 07:49 pm »

Quote from: SailorYue on May 07 2006, 03:21 pm

dunno, it might have something to do with the evil syaroan. he's blind in his left eye.

Most probably the answer

mia-chan · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11 2006, 09:28 am »

Has he got no sight in it? The anime made it seem as though it was weakened not completely gone, or so I thought. They only notice when he's fighting not any other time and you would have thought they would notice at other times as well if he was completely blind in that eye. What does it say in the manga about it?

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11 2006, 01:45 pm »

syaoran has no depth perception. Kuro said it in both manga and anime., tho in manga he said alot more that makes it seem he;s blind. "you didnt notice when the [ryoban's son] grabbed the princess. you only noticed when he had intended to hurt her, you noticed his murderous aura" or something like that.

also, the latest chapter delves that (pardon the pun) theres more than meets the eye with syaoran.

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Xing hou(?) said to the evil syaoran, "Your going to the one that has the right eye?

AirKitty · « **Reply #16 on:** June 08 2006, 11:43 am »

Wow.... never realized all of these connections.

Just realized something!!!!!
Â Â Quote from: Smile_For_Me on May 06 2006, 03:12 PMÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Â Â ~Â The right Eye is to be, what I was told a long time ago, a gate way to ones soul, and the seer of truth, the left eye is to be that of the heart and streangth of a person.

Also found this:

The right eye - the eye of buddhi, of wisdom and of vision.
The left eye - the eye of mind, of the common sense and of sight.

Hope this helps~

If our syoran is blind in right eye that could sorta mean that he lost the gateway to his soul, and wisdon and vision......
So the evil Syoaran does not have the left eye, the heart and strength of the person and also the eye of the mind commmon sense and sight!!!!!
Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

Â It sorta makes sense if you think about it long enough.... I guess.

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08 2006, 02:21 pm »

That is wow, alot of thinking on that part, hum, I need to look more at this....

Becster · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12 2006, 05:40 am »

Quote from: AirKitty on June 08 2006, 11:43 am

If our syoran is blind in right eye that could sorta mean that he lost the gateway to his soul, and wisdon and vision......
So the evil Syoaran does not have the left eye, the heart and strength of the person and also the eye of the mind commmon sense and sight!!!!!
Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â It sorta makes sense if you think about it long enough.... I guess.

Whoawhoawhoa! Hey! Yeah!

Syaoran lost his memories, didn't he? He doesn't remember anything since Fujitaka...so it's like he lost his vision and a part of his soul...

And...who knows about Evil!Syaoran? But...he's been in a test tube for a while...or whatever that tube was. Hardly a way to live life as a person.

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #19 on:** June 22 2006, 02:12 pm »

Don't read unless you've seen chapter 120..............

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I'm not to sure what Eye it is at the moment, but Fai mostlikely lost his....the eye that holds his power.... Anyone else mad???

xOLight_AngelOx · « **Reply #20 on:** June 22 2006, 02:18 pm »

*pops out of nowhere* wierd how all this conects to a right eye *sneaks away*

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09 2006, 07:04 pm »

one more connection to one eye-d characters, left eye losong
and another right eye referenced person:

[spoiler=ch 120/121]Fai gets his left eye stolen by evil syao,
Evil syao's right eye is now blue[/spoiler]

[heh. didnt notice smilefor me aready wrote one of these on the previous page ^^;;

Quote from: AirKitty on June 08 2006, 11:43 am

Just realized something!!!!!
Quote from: Smile_For_Me on May 06 2006, 03:12 PM
~ The right Eye is to be, what I was told a long time ago, a gate way to ones soul, and the seer of truth, the left eye is to be that of the heart and streangth of a person.

Also found this:

The right eye - the eye of buddhi, of wisdom and of vision.
The left eye - the eye of mind, of the common sense and of sight.

Hope this helps~

If our syoran is blind in right eye that could sorta mean that he lost the gateway to his soul, and wisdon and vision......
So the evil Syoaran does not have the left eye, the heart and strength of the person and also the eye of the mind commmon sense and sight!!!!!
It sorta makes sense if you think about it long enough.... I guess.

ne ne!! you were right on the money about syoaran here!

Capella · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09 2006, 11:48 pm »

I notice that in cases where it is the left eye that is lost, it relates to a transfer of power, while losses of the right eye don't.
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Fai's left eye is removed and eaten so that soullessclone!Syaoran can take his magical power. Real!Syaoran cannot use his left eye, since from that eye he copied his heart into clone!Syaoran's right eye. When Kokuyo gives his left eye to Hisui, he is giving her/him half of his power. Fuuma gives Subaru Seishirou's left eye, which gives Subaru the power of the Sakurazukamori.

Losing a right eye (Subaru, TB/X!Seishirou, TRC!Seishirou, clone!Syaoran, Doumeki, Watanuki, Yasha) doesn't cause a transfer of power. TRC!Seishirou and clone!Syaoran both have things "installed" in their eyes, though (the copied heart, the magical device to travel between worlds).

I'm not sure if there's anything to this pattern, but I find it interesting.

envyofthestage · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12 2006, 08:04 am »

OOOOH! Do you think then -that if the left eye is of the mind - that Syaoran will now be able to see Fai's past? It's a crazy possibility, ne? But interesting, I thought.

ishiyaki · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12 2006, 09:32 am »

Quote from: envyofthestage on July 12 2006, 08:04 am

OOOOH! Do you think then -that if the left eye is of the mind - that Syaoran will now be able to see Fai's past? It's a crazy possibility, ne? But interesting, I thought.

Yeah, good idea. Fai didn't want to talk about his past, but now Fai should have to talk with Kurorin, or Syaoran will talk about it with his eye...
poor Sakura, she'll see him half-destroyed if she wakes up...

err...doesn't Syaoran seem a siberian Husky with his eyes? (blue and ambar) XD Xp

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17 2006, 09:53 pm »

changed the title, but if you can think of something better pleasetell em

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18 2006, 04:43 am »

Thats a good name, considering there are more then just one character in CLAMPS World thats missing or blind in one or both eyes

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18 2006, 08:29 am »

cool. i was tired when i changed the name, so i was nt ure if it was a good one

MJ Walker · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18 2006, 03:21 pm »

*Thinks* You have a point right there *Goes and rereads TRC and xxxHOLiC and more thinking*

Zettai daijoubu · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19 2006, 07:34 pm »

i have noticed CLAMP has an obsession with eyes too.. whether it comes to eye gorging or being blind in one eye.. i can't believe that CLAMP is a group of female drawers and yet is obsessed with such stuff..

Prehaps they are trying to show that eyes are our windows to this world and losing them is equal to losing something very precious?! ok crap..

bearmoon · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21 2006, 05:07 am »

Kinda random thought, but anyone notice thatall the characters who loose the eye are all male?

And I feel like we're forgeting another CLAMP character who lost an eye...it's on the tip of my tounge.

nefadol · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21 2006, 02:29 pm »

Hashimoto from Tokyo Babylon, she lost her left eye (one of the few who did). She was a minor character, so most people forget about her.

sanlyn · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21 2006, 05:09 pm »

This issue was raised during anime expo 2006 ..
[SPOILER=taken from ANN]
Question: In most of CLAMPâ€™s work thereâ€™s always a character who only has one eye, and Iâ€™d like to know what that means?

Ohkawa Ageha: In the stories, the one-eyed character or the characters loses sight in one eye...I think that Iâ€™m trying to visually show that there can be a very big traumatic experience/feeling and Iâ€™m basically trying to show the feeling of being lonely. From the stories thereâ€™s always some events or something that comes in later that supplements that vision. On a little different note, my right eye, the vision is not very good so maybe itâ€™s just a personal thing that I can relate to such events personally. I think in the current works, Tsubasa and XXXHolic, thereâ€™s also a one-eyed character, so you might see that theme again. [/SPOILER]

Smile_For_Me · « **Reply #33 on:** September 21 2006, 04:40 pm »

I didn't forget about Hashimoto, I liked her alot. I wounder how she is doing now? Because in TB

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Subaru gave her a hankerchiff??(is that what it is called) Before she lost her eye. After wards when he went to go see her, she didn't want to see him. She wanted to wait untill she was strong enuff to give the hankerchiff back to him one day.

Now in X, I'm still waiting for her to show up, knocking his but out of the drepressed state he's in, by giving him the hankerchiff, telling him that she is now strong enuff to face him. That is, when CLAMP starts X again, which I hope is soon..

Well know since Fai lost his right eye(?), I'm going to look up on some more info

nefadol · « **Reply #34 on:** September 21 2006, 05:16 pm »

Quote from: Smile_For_Me on September 21 2006, 04:40 pm

I didn't forget about Hashimoto, I liked her alot. I wounder how she is doing now? Because in TB

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Subaru gave her a hankerchiff??(is that what it is called) Before she lost her eye. After wards when he went to go see her, she didn't want to see him. She wanted to wait untill she was strong enuff to give the hankerchiff back to him one day.

Now in X, I'm still waiting for her to show up, knocking his but out of the drepressed state he's in, by giving him the hankerchiff, telling him that she is now strong enuff to face him. That is, when CLAMP starts X again, which I hope is soon..

Well know since Fai lost his right eye(?), I'm going to look up on some more info

That indeed would be interesting if she did show up, doubtful though.Â I really liked that story, because it showed how reality isn't rosy. Some things just can't be forgiven.Â I really think Tokyo Babylon has more in common with xxxHolic than X with the lessons that are displayed in it.Â At least looking at the individual stories it does.

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