Tomoeda Elementary School (Discussion)

[Kasawa Lanford]

I don't see this so I wanted to talk about it

Several things about the school that have caught me interest, one of them being the uniforms (Kawaii!!  )

And yes those REALLY turned me on when I first saw the series back in ..... oh man... (checks) 1999/2000

Anyway. Is the school a private school or public? Reason I ask is becase Sakura refer's to her big brothers school as a Private School

But what makes me believe it is a private school is her father, he's a professor (Professors make a ton of money) but also since she knows Tomoyo, who's mother also makes a ton of money

I don't know.. what do the rest of you think? (and no this isn't the only thing I plan on discussing )

[moezychan]

Great idea Kasawa-kun! This hasn't been thought of before!

Well, like most American's, I found out about Card Captor Sakura through Cardcaptors, and when I saw the first episode of that I assumed that the school was private since in American culture the only schools that have uniforms are usually perochial schools, or private schools.

However this thought bugged me because even though Sakura's father is a professor, their lifestyle doesn't strike me as rich. It's possible that he doesn't have a fancy house because the majority of his money might go to both Sakura's and Touya's schools, but then again, the school doesn't seem entirely fancy for a private school.

However, and I keep contradicting myself, it does contain many uniforms for all the events:

1) Cheerleading: Sakura has 3 uniforms for that. 1 for winter practice; 1 for summer practice; and 1 for performance.

2) Gym class: 1 summer outfit; 1 winter outfit

3) Skiing: They have their skiing uniform; their lounge outfits; and pajamas

4) Field trips: they have uniforms for ice skating; swimming; and the uniform for the scary courage test

5) Choir: Tomoyo has her own outfit for that as well

6) Class uniform: one for summer and one for winter, and with matching bookbags, shoes, hat and coat

It is quite possible that they are a private school with all this supported evidence. No public school would have a uniform for every single event or activity

[Kasawa Lanford]

Thats what I was thinking when I first saw the series

What about everyone else though? Only heard from Moeazy-chan (Arigatou! ^_^)  but I would like to hear from everyone else

*and if no one else replys, then I'll just move on to the next subject  *

[Arcademan]

Forgot about the swimsuits, as the school went to the sea and an indoor water park.

I think it's a public school since many an anime series also show similar uniforms and activities. What may be an every day thing in Japan may NOT be one in the United States or many other countries

[moezychan]

Forgot about the swimsuits, as the school went to the sea and an indoor water park.

I think it's a public school since many an anime series also show similar uniforms and activities. What may be an every day thing in Japan may NOT be one in the United States or many other countries

Mm; quite possible. And yes, I did forget about those. Thank you for pointing it out. Not entirely sure if it is a public or a private. I'm being pulled between both directions on this because there's evidence to support both. We really need an expert on Japanese culture to help.

[D.J.P]

I know our schools out here have Uniforms regardless if its public or private

[aymiahfayth]

I always thought it was public but I've always compared it with other animes where they also have uniforms like Arcademan said. But also, where I live, you have uniforms for very much the same thing and its a public school. School has 2 uniforms, Choir has 2 uniforms, cheerleading has 2, and ect... So I guess it really wasn't too much of a surprise.... (keep in mind, we have to pay for our choir uniforms and the like....)

[Cherry-chan]

Is it possible that Tomoeda is just a rich public school? Because a couple of schools here aren't private and they do many of the same things and have many outfits as Tomoeda does. Tomoeda is a small town, ne? So is it possible that Tomoeda Elementary School is the only Elementary school in Tomoeda, so they put a lot of funds into it and everything? Hmm... this calls for more contemplation.

[Rika Iiyumi]

Is it possible that Tomoeda is just a rich public school? Because a couple of schools here aren't private and they do many of the same things and have many outfits as Tomoeda does. Tomoeda is a small town, ne? So is it possible that Tomoeda Elementary School is the only Elementary school in Tomoeda, so they put a lot of funds into it and everything? Hmm... this calls for more contemplation.

i think that's a definite possibility, owing to the fact that they have so much stuff...

i also noticed that the high school Touya went to was a private school, so would Sakura's school be a private school too? (because the school's are right next to eachother and all that)

[moezychan]

i think that's a definite possibility, owing to the fact that they have so much stuff...

i also noticed that the high school Touya went to was a private school, so would Sakura's school be a private school too? (because the school's are right next to eachother and all that)

Touya's school is private? For some reason I don't remember that. In what episode did they say that?

[Cherry-chan]

I don't remember that Touya's school was private, either. But in that case, if they're next to each other, wouldn't they be sister-brother schools? Like after Sakura graduates, she goes to Touya's school? At least, that's the case with my area. But I have no clue, it could also be possible that Touya's school was private and was next to Sakura's school, while Sakura's school is public. No clue.

[Kasawa Lanford]

Episode one I think is where Sakura says that Touya's school is public (I need to buy a new volume 1, my current disk is to stractched up thanks to constant use)

I don't know if Tomoeda is the only elementary school or not, because in the Episode with Yuki (the episode where Sakura is a thief and shows the first apperence of Syaoran as a black figure)

The uniform that Yuki wears isn't anywhere near that of Tomoeda Elementary, then again, there IS the possibility that Yuki came from another town (her fathers painting just so happen's to be at that museum)

As for uniforms, I tend to believe that the school could be private, because here in Vegas the only schools that have uniforms (well, school uniforms) are private schools with the exception of a few public schools that ARE turning into uniformed schools

Edit: What I said is exclusive to private schools and a few public schools here in Las Vegas, I don't claim to be an expert since we have had two new schools open up in the past two years (one is a public school that does indeed have uniforms)

Hmmm.. what does everyone else think?

[Arcademan]

Many public schools in Arizona have uniforms now however the private schools have a uniform for every activity. In any event, the opinions I expressed in my original post still stands.

[Kasawa Lanford]

I didn't say they didn't Arcademan

Ok.. next subject. What about field trips?

For most public schools it's pretty straight forward: The district pays for those trips (some might be paid for by the place that they are headed to)

What about for Tomoeda though? Was there field trips paid for by the city or was it paid for by the parent's and other people who had there kids in that school?

[Arcademan]

Re-read your post...you gave the impression it was private school exclusive.

Choose your words wisely...last person you want to get into it with is me!!!

[Kasawa Lanford]

Choose your words wisely...

Don't worry, I will

Re-read your post...you gave the impression it was private school exclusive.

read my corrections
I forgot to put that what I said was exclusive to Las Vegas, Nevada. I know several schools in Border City, Reno and a few other places that have uniforms for public schools

However to be honest, in the first five years, about half the public schools here in Vegas will have uniforms (due to the crime rate)

last person you want to get into it with is me!!!

HEY! Thats my line 
Oh wait.. this isn't a political thread... NEVERMIND! 

Hmmm, someone asked about japanese culture. I took the time to call up my martial arts instructor (Shotokan Japanese Martial Arts, the sensei lived in Japan for thirty years before moving to America) from what he told me MOST Public Schools have uniforms, and pretty much all Private Schools have them. The uniforms are used mainly for safety but there are other reasons

If you want me to I can have a more indepth talk with him and perhaps ask if he can write something up for me to post here.

Anyway, lets get back to the topic at hand.

Ok.. next subject. What about field trips?

For most public schools it's pretty straight forward: The district pays for those trips (some might be paid for by the place that they are headed to)

What about for Tomoeda though? Was there field trips paid for by the city or was it paid for by the parent's and other people who had there kids in that school?

[Time-Machine]

The feild trips are the only thing that seemed more private school to me. Maybe it's different in Japan, but organizing a field trip tends to be expensive and difficult. There's a lot more paperwork involved when it's a public school rather than private, and these kids went on a lot of field trips. Expensive ones, too. I mean, these kids went skiing for goodness sake! And they went ice-skating, to the beach, strawberry picking, to the museum, the zoo, the aquarium...and for all of those they had special uniforms. That takes a lot of money and a lot of parental support. A publis school would have a hard time getting away with it.

[moezychan]

Hmmm, someone asked about japanese culture. I took the time to call up my martial arts instructor (Shotokan Japanese Martial Arts, the sensei lived in Japan for thirty years before moving to America) from what he told me MOST Public Schools have uniforms, and pretty much all Private Schools have them. The uniforms are used mainly for safety but there are other reasons

If you want me to I can have a more indepth talk with him and perhaps ask if he can write something up for me to post here.

I was the one that asked. If possible, could you have your instructor explain the need for all the uniforms different activites; ex. gym, field trips...ect? It would be great if you did.

The feild trips are the only thing that seemed more private school to me. Maybe it's different in Japan, but organizing a field trip tends to be expensive and difficult. There's a lot more paperwork involved when it's a public school rather than private, and these kids went on a lot of field trips. Expensive ones, too. I mean, these kids went skiing for goodness sake! And they went ice-skating, to the beach, strawberry picking, to the museum, the zoo, the aquarium...and for all of those they had special uniforms. That takes a lot of money and a lot of parental support. A publis school would have a hard time getting away with it.

So true. I did go on many field trips when I was in school but never anything as fancy as skiing. And don't forget, they all had to have matching outfits for skiing, the lodge, and for sleeping.

[Cardcaptor Takato]

I think Tomoeada Elementary could be a private school because remember Tomoyo attends there and she's the rich daughter of the CEO of a large toy industry.  Since Tomoyo even has bodyguards, I'd imagine her mother would want to send her to a private school where she could be more protected than at a public school.  Also, didn't Tomoeada Elementary  have an indoor swimming pool in the manga?  And they have a nude statue in front of their school, too.  Is it really common for public Japanese elementary schools to have nude statues in front of them?  Also, remember that the nude statue was broken in episode two but it was quickly repaired in time for the next episode.  I can't imagine any public schools having the kind of money needed to repair a nude statue solely for decoration that quickly.  Tomoeada Elementary doesn't seem to have any problems at all with Terada-sensei's relationship with Rika, either.  I know Japan has a different culture than ours but I can't imagine any public school being ok with a teacher in his 30's dating his ten year old student.

[Arcademan]

Talking with a friend of mine who lives in Japan and describing some of the stuff about Tomoeda, she told me that though all the schools have uniforms for classes and for extra activities, it sounds like Tomoeda Elementary School is more of a private school than a public one. Also some of the things Cardcaptor Takato said in the previous post about the school and its surroundings and activities make a lot of sense. I still would like definitive proof of it but I'm now leaning toward the 'private' school than the 'public'

[Cherry-chan]

I still think that TES is possibly the only Elementary school in Tomoeda, so that's why a lot of funds are being put into it, they get to go on many field trips, uniforms for every occasion, etc. And yeah, don't most of the schools in anime/manga have uniforms?

[moezychan]

Thank you for sharing Arcademan. Glad that discussion had a final answer. Are you going to ask the next question soon Kasawa-kun?

[Cherry-chan]

Ah, gomen ne, final answer? Sumimasen! I didn't read it properly *bows* Yes, onto next question.

[Kasawa Lanford]

Next Question:

When was Tomoeda created? And is there the remote possibility that it might have a connection with Clamp School? (We've seen the same uniforms at that school, thats why I poss that question)