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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #20 on: May 20 2006, 10:36 pm »
I just saw it yesterday (here in Germany) and I don't think, that it shows the religion and the bible in a bad way.
Dan Brown had only some theories which he wrote down. Some are quite possible, and some not! That's all!
I'm not that close to religion and I don't even know if I believe in Jesus Christus as the son of God but I believe that there were a joung guy who did good things and gave people something to believe! The question if he had a wife and a child shouldn't  change the facts he did or the faith in him!
So this book/movie is only an interesting theory in my opinion and if you believe or not or if it's really(!) important to you and your faith that Christus was a single is up to yourself.
That's the exact same case with Dogma aswell, They showed Jesus (who was actually black) with many brothers and sisters and various other changes to the story. Christians got really offeneded by that too.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20 2006, 10:43 pm »
Why are they offended? i mean.. if their belief for him is really strong, it won't change them.. and if they are really offended, that means it's true! like guilty. because, even if many people doesn't believe in their beliefs why would they care about what others think? Am i making any sense?

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #22 on: May 20 2006, 10:52 pm »
Why are they offended? i mean.. if their belief for him is really strong, it won't change them.. and if they are really offended, that means it's true! like guilty. because, even if many people doesn't believe in their beliefs why would they care about what others think? Am i making any sense?
And besides, why are they all so defensive about it, If THE BIBLE IS true then they shouldn't have to defend it so badly. If you TRULY believe in your faith this movie should not affect you at all, It should just be a form of entertainment like any other movie. Christians need to lighten up and learn what Entertainment is, They get too annoyed too much. You can't deny it either, Movies, Books, Anime Cons, WARS!!!
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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #23 on: May 22 2006, 04:38 am »
I agree with Vex Net (your point of view was well said). It annoys me that people will ban things just because they might alter peoples faith. The catholic church has banned Philip Pullman's books, His Dark Materials because they show the church in a bad light which is rediculous because it's set in an alternate reality!

Anyways back on topic, I've read the book and hope to see the film soon, I enjoyed it, it was a good story and I didn't think for a second it could be true, but then I don't think the bible is true either.
People should all be given the choice to see it and if you think it might offend you, don't go to see it, don't try and ban it and ruin it for everyone else. People can be so selfish! (I'm not talking about anyone on this site, just people in general who protest stuff like this.)

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #24 on: May 22 2006, 12:15 pm »
I heard the movie wasn't that good, and some people were wondering why there was all the hype about it, and it was a huge disappointment. But that's just what I heard.

My parents are letting me watch it and read the book (and we are Catholic), because we know that's it's fiction. The reason why the Church is against it is because some people who aren't Catholic/Christian, misinterpret the book/movie as real because they're not Catholic/Christian and they don't understand or whatever, and they may get the wrong idea. But as long as you know that's it's fiction and not real and it won't alter your beliefs in any way, by all means, there's no problem in reading the book or watching the movie.
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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #25 on: May 22 2006, 12:17 pm »
May be a big disappointed to many but there's 77 million reasons why it wasn't if you know what I mean :wink:

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« Reply #26 on: May 22 2006, 12:39 pm »
I heard the movie wasn't that good, and some people were wondering why there was all the hype about it, and it was a huge disappointment. But that's just what I heard.

My parents are letting me watch it and read the book (and we are Catholic), because we know that's it's fiction. The reason why the Church is against it is because some people who aren't Catholic/Christian, misinterpret the book/movie as real because they're not Catholic/Christian and they don't understand or whatever, and they may get the wrong idea. But as long as you know that's it's fiction and not real and it won't alter your beliefs in any way, by all means, there's no problem in reading the book or watching the movie.

That's the point that I wanted to make. I'm Catholic, and though I'm not going against the movie, I'm not going to see it. I'm not banning it. Another point, I'm a catechist teacher, and if some of my students were to see it, they might misinterpret the movie to be true and be persuaded against the true faith of the Catholic religion. Chances are my religion wants to ban it for this reason. It's easy to mold young minds, and some children might take it as true. That would be my only concern. Other than that, view at your own discretion, but leave me out of it. I have an example to uphold and for that reason only, I refuse to watch it.

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #27 on: May 22 2006, 12:45 pm »
Ah, I see, moezy-chan. I wouldn't watch it if I were to set an example, either.

May be a big disappointed to many but there's 77 million reasons why it wasn't if you know what I mean :wink:

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« Reply #28 on: May 22 2006, 12:53 pm »
So any box office reports yet?

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #29 on: May 22 2006, 01:15 pm »
So any box office reports yet?

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #30 on: May 22 2006, 01:33 pm »
Anybody remember that other little controversial religious movie that caused a big uproar and lots of fundamentalist Christians complained about it?  I believe it was called "The Passion Of the Christ "?  And anybody else remember that other controversial film that fundamentalist Christians complained about called "Brokeback Mountain"?  The Da Vinci Code is no different from any either of those films expect Passion Of The Christ was a documentary, but it had the basic same results.  Although admittedly I haven't seen any of these films (although I do want to see The Da Vinci Code and Brokeback Mountain), I seriously believe that these types of movies are becoming a money-making trend in Hollywood.  The Passion Of The Christ was a big hit that caused a lot of controversy but the controversy ended up creating even more hype for the film resulting from the movie earning even more cash.

IMO, I think Hollywood is just trying to cash in on the hype of The Passion Of The Christ by creating these little controversial films that they know is going to cause a big uproar with the Christian fundamentalists because they know the bigger the uproar they start, the more money their film is going to make because people are curious about the controversial.  Then, after all the hype has settled down, people will start to forget the controversial film ever even existed because they'll be too worried about the next one that comes along and then another overly-hyped controversial film will end up earning a lot of money at the box office that'll soon be forgotten about until the next money-making Hollywood trend comes along.  So, if you think you'll be offended by this film and that it will effect your faith, don't worry about it because as soon as this movie hits DVD, everybody will have forgotten about it already because it's just a big money-making scheme by Hollywood because they know the more controversial their film is, the more money they're going to make even if the film itself is sub-par.
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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #31 on: May 22 2006, 04:32 pm »
Earlier I was watching this interview with the director about the movie and how he didn't get very good remarks from the critics about it. But the interviwer brought up a very good question (that I can't remember at this moment ^^;), but his respone stuck out to me.

He said that he can't exactly speak out for Dan Brown, he wrote the book so as not to offened Catholics/Christians, but as another point of thinking. I think that that is what the book really did, it makes you think. It's not real, but you go over it in your head, "Yea, I never thought about it that way. Maybe I should look into it more." Or the opposite of that would be, "No, I've made my opinion on that topic, I don't need to know more about that."

But I really was itiching to see it...After reading the book and all. It won't change my faith, but I just want to see another person's view of thinking. After all, the movie and book are just fiction. Faith is faith, if you truely believe in something, something fictional shouldn't change your faith.


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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #32 on: May 22 2006, 06:32 pm »
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My parents are letting me watch it and read the book (and we are Catholic), because we know that's it's fiction. The reason why the Church is against it is because some people who aren't Catholic/Christian, misinterpret the book/movie as real because they're not Catholic/Christian and they don't understand or whatever, and they may get the wrong idea. But as long as you know that's it's fiction and not real and it won't alter your beliefs in any way, by all means, there's no problem in reading the book or watching the movie.
You mean they get the RIGHT idea?
I might've mentioned before that I don't like people saying saying that Christians, Catholticism (or whatever) etc are  the one truth and everything the bible says is true, That's just naivity. For the church to criticise another story that may be better or more interesting than the bible just shows they are scared people will develop thier own view on religion, not just that which is told by the church in state.

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That's the point that I wanted to make. I'm Catholic, and though I'm not going against the movie, I'm not going to see it. I'm not banning it. Another point, I'm a catechist teacher, and if some of my students were to see it, they might misinterpret the movie to be true and be persuaded against the true faith of the Catholic religion. Chances are my religion wants to ban it for this reason. It's easy to mold young minds, and some children might take it as true. That would be my only concern. Other than that, view at your own discretion, but leave me out of it. I have an example to uphold and for that reason only, I refuse to watch it.
Misinterpret it like how I mentioned earlier that in The Passion of Christ, they made the Jews out to be evil, gave them a really bad view point. I still think ones truth should be thier own and not what their being told by church so more movies like Da Vinci Code should be released, I want to see more different and 'controversal' visions, ideas and stories on Religion.

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Anybody remember that other little controversial religious movie that caused a big uproar and lots of fundamentalist Christians complained about it?  I believe it was called "The Passion Of the Christ "?  And anybody else remember that other controversial film that fundamentalist Christians complained about called "Brokeback Mountain"?  The Da Vinci Code is no different from any either of those films expect Passion Of The Christ was a documentary, but it had the basic same results.  Although admittedly I haven't seen any of these films (although I do want to see The Da Vinci Code and Brokeback Mountain), I seriously believe that these types of movies are becoming a money-making trend in Hollywood.  The Passion Of The Christ was a big hit that caused a lot of controversy but the controversy ended up creating even more hype for the film resulting from the movie earning even more cash.

IMO, I think Hollywood is just trying to cash in on the hype of The Passion Of The Christ by creating these little controversial films that they know is going to cause a big uproar with the Christian fundamentalists because they know the bigger the uproar they start, the more money their film is going to make because people are curious about the controversial.  Then, after all the hype has settled down, people will start to forget the controversial film ever even existed because they'll be too worried about the next one that comes along and then another overly-hyped controversial film will end up earning a lot of money at the box office that'll soon be forgotten about until the next money-making Hollywood trend comes along.  So, if you think you'll be offended by this film and that it will effect your faith, don't worry about it because as soon as this movie hits DVD, everybody will have forgotten about it already because it's just a big money-making scheme by Hollywood because they know the more controversial their film is, the more money they're going to make even if the film itself is sub-par.
couldn't of said it better myself, It's doing better and better because of the religous zealots, so in trying to get rid of the film they have inadvertanly just promoted it.

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He said that he can't exactly speak out for Dan Brown, he wrote the book so as not to offened Catholics/Christians, but as another point of thinking. I think that that is what the book really did, it makes you think. It's not real, but you go over it in your head, "Yea, I never thought about it that way. Maybe I should look into it more." Or the opposite of that would be, "No, I've made my opinion on that topic, I don't need to know more about that."
I think that's part of a problem, Writing it so not to offend Christians. I think this burdens a lot of stories, Whether any story is written to not offend some type of person, It means the bare story is mistruded from it's original emphasis, That's one of the reasons why South Park was so popular, It was written without worrying if it offended people because that was half the point anyway, the main point is to get a message across, whethere you hated every moment or loved every moment.
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« Reply #33 on: May 23 2006, 07:34 am »
Misinterpret it like how I mentioned earlier that in The Passion of Christ, they made the Jews out to be evil, gave them a really bad view point. I still think ones truth should be thier own and not what their being told by church so more movies like Da Vinci Code should be released, I want to see more different and 'controversal' visions, ideas and stories on Religion.

I'm not even going to attempt to stop people from watching it. If you want to believe in another religion, that's your choice. It goes with the Catholic belief that everone has free will. If God wants to stop you, then he will. Since he doesn't what gives us mortal humans the right to fight in the name of God and falsely advertise the bible? I hate "hate wars." I am completely against it, since I'm a pacifist, even if it were people from my own religion. If you want to see it go. I can't stop you from going anymore than I you can force me to see it. We all have the right to be in control of our lives.

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Re: Da Vinci Code
« Reply #34 on: May 23 2006, 01:25 pm »
I'm going to be honest, people should seriously look at their own faith if they find it being questioned by a fictional movie. I'm not trying to offend anyone here, everyone is allowed their own opinion but if a fictional movie upsets the core of your religious beliefs then perhaps there's something more to it then just a movie made from (in my opinion) a rather mediocre novel. Do I want to see the movie? I do, I read the book and thought it was a fun thriller, but it certainly shouldn't change the world, not without any bloody evidence to back it up no.

Reason with your family that a fictional movie that is apparently reasonably entertaining shouldn't and won't have any effect on your own faith as others have said. In the end, it shouldn't matter what some Cambridge author or Ron Howard says but what you think.

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« Reply #35 on: May 23 2006, 10:59 pm »
whats with the reasonable and mediocre-ness, doesn't it match up to your tastes?

and i totally agree with everything you put.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23 2006, 11:09 pm »
you guys are putting way to much thought into all this...what it all comes down to is this....

If you're gonna let a story that someone pulled out of their head, in other words a story someonne made up about a religon, than i guess thats up to you and your personal preferences. Whether you allow people to inflict their beliefs or thoughts upon you is completely up to you.

I'm a Christain and I saw the movie yesterday....I wasn't swayed at all....in fact it was kind of bad  :dodge:
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« Reply #37 on: May 24 2006, 12:15 am »
whats with the reasonable and mediocre-ness, doesn't it match up to your tastes?

and i totally agree with everything you put.

*shrugs* I thought the book was fun, definitely fast paced and easy to read. However nothing about it really stuck out in my mind as remarkable, I've read better books to be quite honest. I know Brown apparently has twelve other books featuring the character Langdon outlined and if my library got them I'd pick them up, as I said they were fun but yeah, not completely to my tastes.

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« Reply #38 on: May 24 2006, 12:22 am »
*shrugs* I thought the book was fun, definitely fast paced and easy to read. However nothing about it really stuck out in my mind as remarkable, I've read better books to be quite honest. I know Brown apparently has twelve other books featuring the character Langdon outlined and if my library got them I'd pick them up, as I said they were fun but yeah, not completely to my tastes.

I agree all the hype is really helping out dan brown and the filmmakers, I hope the people protesting it see the irony!  It has been on the news in the UK so much recently due to the film and because dan brown was taken to court by someone saying that he had stolen the storyline, I think dan brown proved that it was his though, not too sure!

I found it an interesting story but it wasn't spectacular and I probably won't ever read it again.
Hope to see the film though but may wait till it's out on dvd.

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« Reply #39 on: May 29 2006, 02:35 am »
I loved the book, but people do say that the movie's not as good

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