Chapter 122

[Tricky]

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I'm shorry if this is a totally weird question, but I'm really missing something here...
RSyaoran gives half of his heart to CSyaoran and spends several years floating in a giant test tube. Then, CSyoran loses that half of heart he was given from RSyoran and Fai picks it up? BUT THEN RSyaoran comes and takes half of CSyoran's heart to comlete his own heart.... The math is all wrong here. Thats three halves...We need four... So, did RSyaoran give half of his heart to CSyaoran and CSyaoran has HIS OWN half a heart..like...it belongs to him in the first place? Then, half of his(CSyaoran) heart Fai is holding and the other half RSyoran has to give him no heart and RSyaoran a whole heart? I mean, does Fai still has that piece, right? And it is obvious that RSyoran took his half back and it was declared that CSyoran is now, without a heart .....
So...If Fai still has this piece that must have been the half of CSyaoran that was solely his then is that the key in getting our beloved old Syaoran back?
Or, was it picked up somewhere along the way and I missed it?
Or, does CSyoran just have simply... a half of a heart which never belonged to him and the other half just never existed?

I'm very confused and I'm pretty sure I missed something....
>.<

[Hack]

don't worry, i spend all night last night to figured out what was going on XD

me: so Rsyao was captured....Csyao takes over Osyaoran then Rsyao...umm...soo...

[Jeannette]

My very late comments:

What an awesome chapitre! I'm so glad that real!Syaoran isn't evil, like so many people have been assuming. T_T Poor guy. The biggest question I have is what world he comes from. I don't really have much else to say... it's late, and there are already seven pages of commentary.

Meowzy- holy snickies, I'm not the only one who likes Norrington/Jack!

[Whisk]

Hehe great chapter here are my thoghts in the spoilers, tell me what you think please ^_^

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From what i can tell so far. The R.S took the heart from the shell body.  Which is his clone and they are one of the same accept its another part of R.s, hehe hard to explain i guess if you go really into it.  I think the R.S. though even though showing no signs he is trying to be mean, may infact be lieing about the feelings for Sakura not being from the heart the clone carried but what throws me off is the almost sincer look he gives when saying it.

I say this, because for
one what Fai tried to do with the heart
two Syaoran doesnt look to happy about what he tried to do, even though Fai was trying to protect the hearts "memmories!"
three it maybecome confusing if my first two reasons are wrong, but that is because we are in a magical world in the manga where anything could happen and every slightest detail is important and since it is magic, and magic almost has the means to do anything, it therefor becomes almost unpredictable in my opinion, but little predictions here and there can become accurit.

It is intreasting that Sakura becomes sad when R.S though says it doesnt come from his own heart.

Also intreasting how Clone.S seems to be more lifeless with out the heart or that he is no longer has w/e power within him but is now only a simple shell with only one duty and priority in his mind.

Now the question is, what was R.S late for?
What is wrong with  C.S now
and how will C.S be stopped?

hehe, i think three things will either happen.
A merge of bodies.
C.S will be defeated.
C.S will regain himself and R.S will travel with them.

Last one i believe is less likely to happen, what you think?

[Yersi Fanel]

...I wonder if Mokona has any bandages in that black hole of a mouth it has...I mean

Kuro could be doing something productive and maybe bandaging up Fai's eye, or beating up Kamui to help out...Okay, not that I'm saying protectively holding Fai isn't so totally for the win productive...but he could be doing something about the upwards bleeding blood from his boyfriend's Fai's eye XD

Kuro: *stares at Kamui* do something
Kamui: allright, allright, jezz... *jumps pass over the 2 Syaorans*
R!Syao & C!Syao: ??...ooookay... *keep fighting*...
Kamui: *takes medical equip from nowhere and helps Fai*
Kuro: where did you hide that... and why did you not help before?
Kumai: my magic belt of doom and because you didn't ask me to  ^_^
Kuro: O_o;;

[Sailor Yue-chan]

hmm. i was looking at the chapter again, and the thing about fai bleeding. i think MOST of the blood on his face is a result of him lying face down once clone syao did the evil deed.
if any blood is still coming out, itd be in the corner of his eye

[Becster]

Kuro: *stares at Kamui* do something
Kamui: allright, allright, jezz... *jumps pass over the 2 Syaorans*
R!Syao & C!Syao: ??...ooookay... *keep fighting*...
Kamui: *takes medical equip from nowhere and helps Fai*
Kuro: where did you hide that... and why did you not help before?
Kumai: my magic belt of doom and because you didn't ask me to  ^_^
Kuro: O_o;;

I get a mental picture of him throwing the first aid kit in Kuro's face. Dunno why...XD

[Snow-chan]

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It was Clone!Syaoran's "true nature" that was taking over Clone!Syaoran's body.  Real!Syaoran wasn't able to do anything but watch through the clone's right eye.   He has no control over the clone at all.  When we were in the world that contained the book of memory, we find out that "our" Syaoran has no recollection of what his "true natured" did.  When we look back at Real!Syaoran, we realize that he is actually doing something else while the clone's "true nature" was awake.  Therefore, that's how we realize that the clone and the original are not connected at all except by the eye.    ^_0 

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But how would you then explain the mirror image of C! and R! on chapter 65 pg 4(or  168 Del Rey volume 9) where we see both with raised hands? That is the one scene where for me there is a discrepancy in the "I only saw through C!'s eye", all the mirror dreams and whatnot can be blamed on the C! taking over, but that one during the fight with Kurogane in Shura  I do not get. It cannot be Syaoran's (C! with half of R!'s heart) metal image since his mental image of the clone is dressed like him but with an eyepatch.

I'm pretty mixed up by the heart halves as well and did think where one of those got -  we should make a chart of the movement of the halves!

[Thalia]

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I'm shorry if this is a totally weird question, but I'm really missing something here...
RSyaoran gives half of his heart to CSyaoran and spends several years floating in a giant test tube. Then, CSyoran loses that half of heart he was given from RSyoran and Fai picks it up? BUT THEN RSyaoran comes and takes half of CSyoran's heart to comlete his own heart.... The math is all wrong here. Thats three halves...We need four... So, did RSyaoran give half of his heart to CSyaoran and CSyaoran has HIS OWN half a heart..like...it belongs to him in the first place? Then, half of his(CSyaoran) heart Fai is holding and the other half RSyoran has to give him no heart and RSyaoran a whole heart? I mean, does Fai still has that piece, right? And it is obvious that RSyoran took his half back and it was declared that CSyoran is now, without a heart .....
So...If Fai still has this piece that must have been the half of CSyaoran that was solely his then is that the key in getting our beloved old Syaoran back?
Or, was it picked up somewhere along the way and I missed it?
Or, does CSyoran just have simply... a half of a heart which never belonged to him and the other half just never existed?

I'm very confused and I'm pretty sure I missed something....
>.<

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From what i've gathered from the manga, clone Syaoran lost the half, Fye picked it up, Fye tried to return it to him through his own eye when clone Syaoran stole it, so it was back inside Syaoran but not part of him, then real Syaoran came and took it back :-)

[Capella]

Am I missing something major? Because I don't see where this business about "half" hearts came from. I thought it was copy of real!Syaoran's heart, which he had to give up the use of his left (or was it right?) eye to put in the clone. Real!Syaoran gets the copy back, which lets him use his eye again. When was it devided in half?

[Rusty]

Real!Syao gave half his heart to Clone!Syao so that he was humanish..
Fye tried to get Clone!Syao back to human mode by returning Clone!Syao half heart through his right eye...
But Real!Syao says once Clone!Syao turned into CreepyDestructo!Syao there was no way anyone could get him back to human mode. 
But Real!Syao is trying to do just that by reminding Clone!Syao about Sakura.

the end

[dark_persian]

Personally, I'd rather Fai actually WAKE UP before anybody bandages him up. Even if that's maybe a little mean of me. Though really, he's bleeding but it's not as TERRIBLE as it could be. A bandage might not do much at this point.

I'm thinking... maybe CLAMP has kept Fai unconscious for this part for a reason. Maybe they don't want him reacting to the bat symbol on clone!Syaoran's shirt too.
I've always had my suspicions that Fei Wong Reed has had something to do with Fai's past since the little-Kurogane story arc.
Perhaps Fai even had something to do with Kuro-mumma's death by chain of events. Maybe he's aware that something he's done has effected Kurogane and that's why he's so desperate not to divulge any information about his past to him.

My theory is that Fei Wong Reed had contact with Ashura. Ashura somehow had Fai under his control and used him for his magic. I'm not sure... but since Fai has the power to create life, maybe he created the Oni that killed Kurogane's mother?
Fai could have tattooed himself with that magical device to suppress his powers and stop them from being used in such an awful way. That would explain why he's so reluctant to use his powers anymore, as well as why it was his most precious possession and why it was also the seal on Ashura's 'coffin'.
It does kind of make sense that Fei Wong would have a part to play in Fai's backstory since he has in Kurogane and Syaoran's.

[Rekall]

I agree with the theory that Fye is being kept knocked out on purpose.  if he was awake and did recognize the symbol on Syaoran's chest fan's brains would go into meltdown because they got too much information at one time.

[Ashlee]

I agree with the theory that Fye is being kept knocked out on purpose. if he was awake and did recognize the symbol on Syaoran's chest fan's brains would go into meltdown because they got too much information at one time.

I agree

They are keeping fai knocked out, because right now, they are explaing what fai did. It wouldn't be the same if it was coming from fai, or fai was awake. Its more dramac this way.

Also I bet Fai will wake up in time for something to happen, or if Csyaoran runs away. Because right now. Isn't  Csyaoran working for FWR. He is on his "clone programing", when Rsyaoran put the heart in. He tried to stop it. That made Syaoran not remember about FWR and his purpose. But now, what is stoping him. Because I don't think Csyaoran is going to snap right out of it, when sakura comes. I think it will happen later with more fighting and twisted plots, mwhahahaha.

[Emiko]

Demo, does FWR control the clone directly, though? I thought that CSyao was just flipping out because that's the true nature of the clone...

[Ashlee]

Demo, does FWR control the clone directly, though? I thought that CSyao was just flipping out because that's the true nature of the clone...

Yeah, but FWR must of had a backup plan. Csyaoran is to gather up the feathers for FWR, so FWR must have control over him some how.

Its just me though.

[ishiyaki]

About Fai's bleeding, he won't die soon. I've watched "Once upon a time in Mexico" of Robert Rodriguez and one of the characters, starred by Eva Mendes, removes Sands's eyes and he becomes, obviously, blind. but he doesn't die for bleeding. Besides, Sands lost two eyes, anf Fai only has lost his one right eye

don't worry!!! Fai isn't going to die...by now...

WHAWHAWHAHWAHWHAAAA!!!!!!...................

[tg]

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But how would you then explain the mirror image of C! and R! on chapter 65 pg 4(or 168 Del Rey volume 9) where we see both with raised hands? That is the one scene where for me there is a discrepancy in the "I only saw through C!'s eye", all the mirror dreams and whatnot can be blamed on the C! taking over, but that one during the fight with Kurogane in Shura I do not get. It cannot be Syaoran's (C! with half of R!'s heart) metal image since his mental image of the clone is dressed like him but with an eyepatch.

The first thing you have to remember is

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that you're reading something made by CLAMP.  CLAMP doesn't work wiith "predictable" stuff.  Not at all.   So, when they drew that scene, it was made to throw us off the loop.  They made it so we all believed it was the Real!Syaoran taking over the clone.   That was CLAMP's intention.  Yeah, I use to think that too until we got to the further worlds.  It was then that I realized that Chapter 65 doesn't make much sense when trying to put everything together.

Technically, we don't actually know the full reason as to why both Syaorans did the same thing since it was never explained.  It most likely had something to do with their hearts being one half of the other.  I can tell you though, that, R!Syaoran had no control over his clone.  It had to be something else.  Sometimes, it's very common in manga for characters to be halves of the other and react similar by being connected through their hearts or soul.  ^_0 

[Dayanira]

A little late but i can't help saying this: I KNEW IT! I was sure there is no way Syao could beat Fai so easily, unless Fai let him do it on purpose. And of course he's not going to die. Is there ANY doubt about it? ^_^

Hey, RSyao took his heart (aka feelings and emotions) back, but it doesn't mean the clone lost his memory, right? He should remember all his life with Sakura and all, so ... Yeah... however it didn't stop him from doing THIS to Fai even if he remembered him...

I wonder what Subaru's role in this drama is.

[Snow-chan]

The first thing you have to remember is

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that you're reading something made by CLAMP. CLAMP doesn't work wiith "predictable" stuff. Not at all. So, when they drew that scene, it was made to throw us off the loop. They made it so we all believed it was the Real!Syaoran taking over the clone. That was CLAMP's intention. Yeah, I use to think that too until we got to the further worlds. It was then that I realized that Chapter 65 doesn't make much sense when trying to put everything together.

Technically, we don't actually know the full reason as to why both Syaorans did the same thing since it was never explained. It most likely had something to do with their hearts being one half of the other. I can tell you though, that, R!Syaoran had no control over his clone. It had to be something else. Sometimes, it's very common in manga for characters to be halves of the other and react similar by being connected through their hearts or soul. ^_0

Well, since I have only read Tsubasa and started Card Captor Sakura today, I am really not all that familiar with CLAMP's trickiness. I see!
The logic-lover in me yearns for logical explanations - it was out of the pattern and a one time occurrence but yes, I guess we shall know the reason not before a later date. Right now all I can think of is self-preservation instincts - if you see through your eye in some one else's head that there is a sword coming towards you, instinctively your first reflex would be to ward it off, before you have time to think "wait, I only see it, it is not me who is under threat".