Mokona's kidnappers service and AntiBTrain or AntiNHK campaign

[little kittie san]

i'm one of the ANTI man!!! it's war BTrain and NHK!! ahahah

[Sailor Yue-chan]

is syaoran(or someone who resembles him...<_< ) "swrod fightuing" or doing a funky dance? O_o

and hells, it took a whole lot more to break inuyashas testusaiga (albiet a demon fang, but atleast it made you go O.O when it happened...from the looks of thins breaikng hein makes you go 

[Aethelthryth]

I feel just the same way. The thing is, Tsubasa has been so commersialized and advertized that it's brought in a new audience. An audience that has had little if any exposure to CLAMP, so they see this brutally raped and butchered anime and think it reflects CLAMP's work in general (if they even know who CLAMP is.) I've been so bitter about the handling of the anime, but only because it had so much potential. [/teacher mode]And I will watch for your opinions on said teaser to determine whether or not I should even bother with it.

I totally agree with you.
I really wonder why CLAMP is not doing anything to stop BeeTrain from doing this. Is it because their contract is not over yet? There should be a way to get out from the contract somehow...I mean, BT is really really messing up the story and it doesn't even represent CLAMP's work anymore, so why continue? If I were CLAMP, I would've murdered BT myself...

Well, maybe I won't really kill BT people, but I just wanna express my anger towards BT....

[Tenkuuken]

Beetrain has really lost all the main thread of the serie,they are creating useless arcs without any logical,their scenarios hasn't got any climax,and now they are even drawing nameless things!
i mean that they are tryng to hide the lack of interest of their episodes by putting a incoherent action with weird effects totally indigestible 

for instance take a look at these ignominies :


can you tell me what is this strange pink thing?it makes me think of spaghettis made in Materazzi (sorry but i'm french and i'm a little traumatised by the world cup,if you understand what i mean  )


is it a sword in fire or a ice cream with citrus and strawberry  ?


i didn't know that a sword could break like a chocolate bar 


please,don't tell me that these are wings,it looks like two meringues 


oh,the spaghettis are back (damned materazzi)...no i'm joking,of course these are not spaghettis,Shaolan is just doing gymnastic with silk ribbons 

so according to my investigation i have found what was the problem of Beetrain :
THEY ARE STARVING !!!
everything they draw has the form of a food,so we really have to bring them sushis  !
since Fai hates this he will be enough generous to give them all his supply so it will help us do economies,everything is calculated with me  )

Mmm... Just this once, I'll go into Mokona mode (chomps sushi). Sushi goes well with omu rice (goes into CCS Sakura mode) and then some chocolate (goes into Kero-chan mode) and a bottle or two of sake (goes into Kuro-pon mode).

That looks like good manju (gets chomped by Mokona)...

[Giraffe-o-Life]

I totally agree with you.
I really wonder why CLAMP is not doing anything to stop BeeTrain from doing this. Is it because their contract is not over yet? There should be a way to get out from the contract somehow...I mean, BT is really really messing up the story and it doesn't even represent CLAMP's work anymore, so why continue? If I were CLAMP, I would've murdered BT myself...

Well, maybe I won't really kill BT people, but I just wanna express my anger towards BT....

Mmm, It's pretty hard to get out a a contract these days, so I doubt there's much they can do. I get the feeling they don't really care anymore. But, although I realize CLAMP were most likely planning the Acid Tokyo arc from the start, I like to think that making it particularly bloody, violent, and slashy was THEIR way of expressing their anger towards Beetrain.

[ishiyaki]

Mmm, It's pretty hard to get out a a contract these days, so I doubt there's much they can do. I get the feeling they don't really care anymore. But, although I realize CLAMP were most likely planning the Acid Tokyo arc from the start, I like to think that making it particularly bloody, violent, and slashy was THEIR way of expressing their anger towards Beetrain.

totally agree.

I fear that BTrain is gonna transform X arc in "Barbie and the Nutcracker" or something like that...
Kamui=fairy
Fuuma=prince Ken
XDXDXD
*prays again and again//BTrain makes me had headaches*

[ishiyaki]

WOw, nobody by here since 19 november???

*cries a bit*

[Kazemon15]

I wish ppl would stop blaming Beetrain for NHK's censorness.....I posted a topic on the Tsubasa Forums that Beetrain would have done better if it wasnt for NHK....they did the Tales openings, if anyone didnt know that....
Beetrain or NHK?

Edit: Here's a quote from one person on the forum.

Bee Train, however, plays a part in how things are played out/presented in the anime. As far as I'm concerned though, we probably would have had a better anime if it had not been aired on NHK, because at least the story would have been more easily portrayed and they wouldn't have had to make about half (or more, not sure, since I haven't seen that much of TC) the second season into filler because there was no way that the network could have continued the story any further because of their censorship policies. /takes a breath.

Bottom line: NHK is the main problem, while Bee Train is lazy and has to go by NHK's demands.

[Emiko]

It's true that BeeTrain didn't have anything to do with the censoring.

But the writing is still bad. And there were lots of things that they could have avoided. Lots of OOCness that was unnecessary.

[Kazemon15]

Well I found for the most part the fillers were pretty good [minus that damn BUS EP] ....I mean....I agree with some forums I read....ppl would have made a BIGGER hassle if they ended the 2nd season in Tokyo Arc, where we have to wait for a year....better to end with a happy ending before all the angst comes flooding in....I mean..no offense to Naruto fans, but I rather they have a few fillers and wait a year rather than have a year of fillers....

[Giraffe-o-Life]

Well I found for the most part the fillers were pretty good [minus that damn BUS EP] ....I mean....I agree with some forums I read....ppl would have made a BIGGER hassle if they ended the 2nd season in Tokyo Arc, where we have to wait for a year....better to end with a happy ending before all the angst comes flooding in....I mean..no offense to Naruto fans, but I rather they have a few fillers and wait a year rather than have a year of fillers....

I think the bigger complaint is that so much filler wouldn't have been needed if the story line had been managed better. There was a lot of material for Beetrain to work with before they had to worry about the Tokyo Arc, but they rushed through arcs that could have been better if they were more drawn out. Personally, I found most of the filler episodes to be badly written and in some cases (episode 50) completely unwatchable, but I wouldn't be so inclined to complain if they'd done a better job earlier in season 2. I'd have been satisfied if they'd ended on a cliff-hanger leaving Recourt. :\

[Sailor Yue-chan]

its stil partly beetrains fault. thesecond season COULD have been wonderful! just look at episode 41! they had the capacity to do it right, but they were just simpy to anal about NHK's rules. also, beetrain can be blamed too. theyre the ones who hired cra-animators. its not NHK's fault that everyone looks f-ed up, and NHK didnt character rape everyone and destroy the canon! NHK only set ground  rules, to make the show PG (it cant be pg-13...pg-13 cartoons are more violent then TRC was)

[ishiyaki]

NHK-----> the censor

BTrain--->bad writter and lazy doing animation.

NHK+BT= Nightmare and Clamp and fan's embarrasement

[tsuki]

NHK-----> the censor

BTrain--->bad writter and lazy doing animation.

NHK+BT= Nightmare and Clamp and fan's embarrasement

AGREE!!!TOTALLY AGREE! 
d*** NHK+BEE-TRAIN! 

[Kazemon15]

The reason they were so lazy is because they knew they couldnt fight NHK's demands, so they just go lazy and decided it wasnt worth it.

[ishiyaki]

Totally agree...I think that the best anime of tsubasa is in our minds...

[Tenkuuken]

So what's gonna happen to TRC, then?

[Emiko]

The reason they were so lazy is because they knew they couldnt fight NHK's demands, so they just go lazy and decided it wasnt worth it.

Yes. Exactly. And that's a terrible attitude to have when you're making something, so it's no wonder the anime turned out so horribly. Tsubasa would have been better served by a company that actually cared and tried to make it good despite the restrictions instead of just pulling pointless filler after pointless filler out of their asses.

[ishiyaki]

At least, Clamp keeps on having prestige...of course...

[Sheepworld]

I hope that sometime in the future a remake will be made by a better studio, just like the Negima and Kanon remakes. What I really hated about the anime, season 2 in particular, was how horrible everyone looked. Even if they had restrictions, they could have at least kept the character designs consistent since design has nothig to do with censorship and it doesn't take that much of your budget to just keep the characters recognisable. (/rant).