Topic: Chapter 133 (Read 67321 times)

tsuki · « **Reply #80 on:** October 26 2006, 03:07 pm »

thank you nefadol...but,i want to read it myself...

Hira · « **Reply #81 on:** October 26 2006, 03:32 pm »

The memory of the body...
I think what might help understand that concept is to go back to remember what are some of CLAMP's most cherished philosophy/principles for life.

Of all the philosophies they have proposed, the one most closely linked to this concept would have been the same concept that was being dealt with in CLAMP's debut work- RG Veda and their most renowned tragedy X.

First of all, every action counts. This has been reiterated by Yuuko over and over.

Second, both stories talked about how the interaction of the people can alter the future. The love between Asura and Yasha was an example, and in X, there's always the motif of the grinding gears.

I think CLAMP do believe in fate with the Hitsuen idea, but they probably do not believe that fate is an absolute power, but rather, the series of interactions amongst the livings (hence, the gears in X).

Sakura's memory of the body... probably meant the role which she plays in each of the world she travels since she wakes up. Even a single action CAN affect the future, doesn't it?

Fei Wong, by obtaining the power to manipulate every dimension, would find it easier if there is just ONE PERSON who has played some kind of role in each of the worlds.

mizunotsubasa · « **Reply #82 on:** October 26 2006, 03:43 pm »

So basically Sakura is just being used by FW.
>:{ I do hate him. I can't wait until the next chapter comes out.

I do adore Sakura and Fay intereaction here. XD

So do you think Tsubasa is finishing soon. Now that the gang knows that FW need Sakura's body. I don't think that the guys would allow FW to get Sakura.

tsuki · « **Reply #83 on:** October 26 2006, 04:21 pm »

scans in english is out now!!
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/ch133.msnw

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #84 on:** October 26 2006, 06:42 pm »

i didnt do them this time. their badly flawed, FWR's middle name and calling watanuki "this kid" rather then "this child" >_<

Xiao_Lang · « **Reply #85 on:** October 26 2006, 07:09 pm »

Downloaded even though Iam at collage and violating all terms of useage. pffft screw that, I need my Tsubasa fix. XDD

The colour pages are lovely. Yuuko looks gorgeous, and on the double one, everyone looks so punky/gothic XD awesome.

I'm really starting to wonder if Tsubasa is coming to some sort of close any time soon... *wibbles*
thank you for the link to the english scans. that was really useful

anyway, I'm supposed to be working... lol

Sailor Yue-chan · « **Reply #86 on:** October 26 2006, 07:11 pm »

dont worry. this is the start of tank 18, theres ATELAST 3 more full tanks to go

Tatasenko · « **Reply #87 on:** October 26 2006, 07:46 pm »

Quote from: tsubasaHime199 on October 26 2006, 02:40 pm

Was Fye cried??Anyone guess what little Fye want to say???I think he gonna say "I want someone to...kill me"

i don't think that Fai was going to say that he wanted someone to kill him,because if you read closely he said "i want to die BUT before someone..."
so it rather means that he wished TO SEE someone before dying,peharps because he has never seen a single human until then and that he wanted to be sure that he was not already dead,or maybe because despite all his despair he still believed that someone would come to save him

tsuki · « **Reply #88 on:** October 26 2006, 08:04 pm »

yeah,Tatasenko!!its my mistake...
he said

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i want to die but before that....i want to be loved by someone...before i die...

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su_chan · « **Reply #89 on:** October 26 2006, 08:39 pm »

There is something that bugs me a bit

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if Fay had not seen an human, how did he learn to talk? magically? He was closed there by 'humans' and was old enough to remember. Silly people cheated by FWR that believed he was dangerous.... the crazy side of my mind thinks he hurt his parents or even killed them by mistake but I hope that side of my mind is wrong............or was put there by his aprents just becasue they were terrfyed by him.... knowing Clamp his parents must be involded into this

dark_persian · « **Reply #90 on:** October 27 2006, 01:20 am »

Quote from: su_chan on October 26 2006, 08:39 pm

There is something that bugs me a bit
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if Fay had not seen an human, how did he learn to talk? magically? He was closed there by 'humans' and was old enough to remember. Silly people cheated by FWR that believed he was dangerous.... the crazy side of my mind thinks he hurt his parents or even killed them by mistake but I hope that side of my mind is wrong............or was put there by his aprents just becasue they were terrfyed by him.... knowing Clamp his parents must be involded into this

Fai can't have been put there for no reason. Perhaps the person/people that put him there believed that he was dangerous. Maybe Fai did something that proved he was dangerous.
Either way, I don't think Fai would have been in there since birth. Let's see... If he was 4 or 5 when he was put in there, 4 or 5 years inside to let his hair get that long... could make him 8 to 10 in the flashback. He would have had time to learn how to talk before he was emprisoned I suppose. And there must be someone feeding him! If even just a little. I don't think even mages can go for 4-5 years without food can they?! 0_o

Snow-chan · « **Reply #91 on:** October 27 2006, 01:42 am »

I am reminded of the feather in the Lecourt world by

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Fai's past, the feather/book was also kept under lock and key, so to say, because it was so powerful and at the same time feared. The difference is of course that to do that to a person is horrible, while it could be counted as reasonable if it was an inanimate object.

Tatasenko · « **Reply #92 on:** October 27 2006, 01:52 am »

Quote from: dark_persian on October 27 2006, 01:20 am

And there must be someone feeding him! If even just a little. I don't think even mages can go for 4-5 years without food can they?! 0_o

at least we understand better now why Fai loves to do cooking,he has been deprived of food for so long

the scene where Fai is moaning plaintively that he desperately wants to die reminds me the scene in front of the bar Clover in Oto country when Kurogane told Fai that "he couldn't die"

...
this chapter seems to affirm this theory since chibi Fai looks like a zombie,totally scrawny

!

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering

Mari · « **Reply #93 on:** October 27 2006, 02:55 am »

Quote from: Tatasenko on October 27 2006, 01:52 am

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering

;_;Â I never thought on that point.
How horrible.

By the way, is it true that no TRC next week?
I know someone put a post up on the 132 thread but I couldn't find it.

Never mind, I found out.

Snow-chan · « **Reply #94 on:** October 27 2006, 03:09 am »

Quote from: Tatasenko on October 27 2006, 01:52 am

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering

That has been my understanding of the matter ever since the "can't die" line in Oto, I immediately classified him (whether truthfully or falsely, but being so immersed with Tolkien's universe, I could not think otherwise unless it will be proved totally different)as someone of "limitless serial longevity" as JRR Tolkien put it when speaking of his Elves. The latter could only "die" if slain or of heart-break and we have seen that Fai could probably not even die of the last one.

Emiko · « **Reply #95 on:** October 27 2006, 04:43 am »

Quote from: Mari on October 27 2006, 02:55 am

By the way, is it true that no TRC next week?
I know someone put a post up on the 132 thread but I couldn't find it.

Never mind, I found out.

Nope, there's one out next week. November 1st I think it is. And Holic's out then, too. Hurrah.

Mari · « **Reply #96 on:** October 27 2006, 04:59 am »

Quote from: Emiko on October 27 2006, 04:43 am

Nope, there's one out next week. November 1st I think it is. And Holic's out then, too. Hurrah.

Wait--really?
In Ladydarkmoon's journal she says there's only xxHolic.

KratosAurion · « **Reply #97 on:** October 27 2006, 05:22 am »

Quote from: Tatasenko on October 27 2006, 01:52 am

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering

I never thought of it that way, but it makes so much sense! I always wanted to know why he can't die, if he wants to die he can just kill himself or something... so you have a very good point here!

mizunotsubasa · « **Reply #98 on:** October 27 2006, 06:18 am »

yup it true, Chibiyuuto just confirmed it.

mizunotsubasa · « **Reply #99 on:** October 27 2006, 06:20 am »

I just went to clamp-net news page and it says no chapter nov1.

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AuthorTopic: Chapter 133 (Read 67321 times)