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Re: Fai - Character Discussion
« Reply #320 on: June 07 2006, 05:11 pm »
It's possible for there to have been a feather in Ceres, but I kind of doubt it because then that means that Syaoran-tachi would have to land there. And that just makes it unfair to Fai's wish, because after all, he did sacrifice his tatoo thingy.
Wait a minute....then again...Yuuku never really said that she was going to grant their wishes...she just provided the means of transportation across demensions...hmmm. Proof of that is because if Yuuku had specifically granted their wishes, they would of landed in a demension with a feather everytime.

As for the AshuraxFai pic....When I first saw it, I sat at the computer and pointed at the screen yelling canon until the shock was over. XD
you r right.... and that would mean that yuuko-san would have to return the payment....and yuuko strictly said "u cannot take back ur payment.....(or something like that.. :heh:)" :haha:[/color]


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« Reply #321 on: June 07 2006, 06:16 pm »
Waaah. I don't want him to be the bad guy, so I really hope he doesn't turn out to be. Right now I am torn between him having been the bad guy, killing all those people and then sealing Ashura, but that makes no sense because then why would he leave? And the other is that Ashura was going postal on everyone in Ceres and Fai sealed him away to stop him. Eh. Dunno. Ugh, I hate CLAMP for keeping us guessing like this XD Well, not really hate them because I love them, but it's frustrating.

Ah, because Fai-knowledge is so scarce, you can think up anything.. I think that's CLAMP's plan. XD You can maybe imagine that Fai had loved ones in the world (likely!), and maybe Ashura killed them so Fai went postal with his magic, lost control (as he's hinted to be very powerful), and killed everyone? @_@ And then he was so frightened about what he'd done and how Ashura would punish him that he sealed him and ran off, unable to stand watching everyone he killed?

You can make up stories as you go. I'd rather really... not, as, like you, I don't want Fai to be the bad guy. It'd make for a nice plot-twist, but I don't want to. ;_;

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« Reply #322 on: June 07 2006, 06:27 pm »
Ah, because Fai-knowledge is so scarce, you can think up anything.. I think that's CLAMP's plan. XD You can maybe imagine that Fai had loved ones in the world (likely!), and maybe Ashura killed them so Fai went postal with his magic, lost control (as he's hinted to be very powerful), and killed everyone? @_@ And then he was so frightened about what he'd done and how Ashura would punish him that he sealed him and ran off, unable to stand watching everyone he killed?

You can make up stories as you go. I'd rather really... not, as, like you, I don't want Fai to be the bad guy. It'd make for a nice plot-twist, but I don't want to. ;_;

For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.

Omg, anyway, I really like the theory you put forth. It's a very Fai-ish reaction if he had done something so horrible (and unintentional) *snif snif* But why would Ashura do that, when they looked so err, satisfied in the splash for chapter 117? LOVE GONE SOUR  :sad5: Plot twists be damned, I want Fai to be good and angsty D:

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Re: Fai - Character Discussion
« Reply #323 on: June 07 2006, 07:11 pm »
For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.

Omg, anyway, I really like the theory you put forth. It's a very Fai-ish reaction if he had done something so horrible (and unintentional) *snif snif* But why would Ashura do that, when they looked so err, satisfied in the splash for chapter 117? LOVE GONE SOUR :sad5: Plot twists be damned, I want Fai to be good and angsty D:

...I think Fai would make a great hairstylist ^___^ XDDD I'm scared to poke the rest of your theory, though. o_o Maybe Ashura just wanted Fai to be his puppy, and Fai would only make kitty noises? Or maybe Ashura wanted Fai to be his kitty, but Fai will only be a kitty for Kuro? >3

But... none of the CLAMP splash pages make any sense! @__@ I mean.. the Sakura thing in which she sits among flowers, and then it says "I was afraid, if I even blinked once, you would vanish between the flowers" or something like that. That had my eye twitching for a while. XD;;;

Fai's best angsty, but CLAMP mustn't overdo it ;_;

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« Reply #324 on: June 07 2006, 07:19 pm »
...I think Fai would make a great hairstylist ^___^ XDDD I'm scared to poke the rest of your theory, though. o_o Maybe Ashura just wanted Fai to be his puppy, and Fai would only make kitty noises? Or maybe Ashura wanted Fai to be his kitty, but Fai will only be a kitty for Kuro? >3

But... none of the CLAMP splash pages make any sense! @__@ I mean.. the Sakura thing in which she sits among flowers, and then it says "I was afraid, if I even blinked once, you would vanish between the flowers" or something like that. That had my eye twitching for a while. XD;;;

Fai's best angsty, but CLAMP mustn't overdo it ;_;
Hahaha, cracktheories are the best to keep me awake at 5 am while I worry about finals I have to take tomorrow XD I like the kitty theory, if only because I see Kuro's name thrown in there :3

Sometimes CLAMP's splash pages end up making sense in some later chapter when you are like OH SO THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SPLASH PAGE 20 CHAPTERS AGO o_o Hopefully that splash page will be explained sooner rather than later, hehe.

CLAMP mustn't overdo it with the angst because they need to save up all their angst for Kamui whenever they decide to finish X. He's had 3 years worth of X angst building up so CLAMP needs to get ready for whenever they feel like continuing, grrr.

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« Reply #325 on: June 08 2006, 03:22 pm »
For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.

Omg that was funny XD
I couldn't stop laughing at that for a good 5 minutes lol.

I've thought about this for a while but....why did Fai place Ashura underwater...? I  mean did he seal him underwater or did he put him there afterwards o_o?

I have a feeling that the reason leading up to Ashura getting sealed had something to Yuuko and her ability to grant wishes. You see...how did Fai even know about her? Well techinically he didn't know her, because they didn't know each other's names but Fai knew exactly where to go so he must of heard of her from somewhere sometime in Celes..... this is so confusing. All the possibilities as to what happened...head going dizzy @_@

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Re: Fai - Character Discussion
« Reply #326 on: June 08 2006, 04:17 pm »
fai probably found out about her in a similar way that Yukito knew of her. i think tomoyo knows her personaly, (or am i thinking of many fanfics like that) but still, fai probably herad about her thru the grapevine,
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« Reply #327 on: June 08 2006, 04:19 pm »
I think we're missing a key element here: the water. What does the water seal out? Does it seal out bad vibes (of the feather, perhaps?), does it seal out his magic, does it block Ashura from sensing Fai's magic? o_o

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Re: Fai - Character Discussion
« Reply #328 on: June 08 2006, 06:18 pm »
Yeah, the water is to seal out other powers, so its a sheld, along with another barrier, that being Chi, and the depth in the water cave as well must be very deep. This is used to keep people in and out. Here's also a website people can look at, talks about the water and what it can do.

http://www.santharia.com/magic/water_magic.htm

It reminds me of Fai in many ways, I will also look into the moon, and how it works with Fai and the others.

and how did Fai find out about the time witch? Maybe from other wizards and his own teacher and what not, or maybe seeing in the pool of water, and finding about her that way.
Speaking of water, have you read chapter 118, OMG, Fai, what are you going to do.
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« Reply #329 on: June 09 2006, 12:09 am »
Yeah, the water is to seal out other powers, so its a sheld, along with another barrier, that being Chi, and the depth in the water cave as well must be very deep. This is used to keep people in and out. Here's also a website people can look at, talks about the water and what it can do.

http://www.santharia.com/magic/water_magic.htm

It reminds me of Fai in many ways, I will also look into the moon, and how it works with Fai and the others.

and how did Fai find out about the time witch? Maybe from other wizards and his own teacher and what not, or maybe seeing in the pool of water, and finding about her that way.
Speaking of water, have you read chapter 118, OMG, Fai, what are you going to do.

Ooh, interesting, thanks for the link <3

Well I suppose Fai must've had a teacher... I hope his teacher wasn't Ashura, though. >_> Maybe Ashura staged the whole thing so Fai could claim some power for him? Maybe that's why Fai doesn't want to get too close to the others- he's afraid he'll be hurt when he has to betray the others.

I know! Excitement excitement! @__@ I hope he goes and fights Clone-Syaoran. Teh cool XD OR MAGIC!

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« Reply #330 on: June 10 2006, 03:22 pm »
Waaahhhh... i can see that happening exactly, that Fai must be working for the bad guyzzzzz and in the end he'll betray the other but he doesn't want to because he's gotten close to them. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! DARN YOU CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #331 on: June 10 2006, 07:51 pm »
Waaahhhh... i can see that happening exactly, that Fai must be working for the bad guyzzzzz and in the end he'll betray the other but he doesn't want to because he's gotten close to them. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! DARN YOU CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, the more I think about it, the more it sounds plausible xD; It would be just like CLAMP to kick the reader when he's down (or really, a rabid Fai fangirl XD).

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« Reply #332 on: June 11 2006, 03:55 am »
I've totally been playing around with the Fai is bad theory for a while and I reaaaaally don't want it to happen, but I can see it happening.

Well, we won't know anything until this whole thing is resolved ^^;

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« Reply #333 on: June 11 2006, 09:27 am »
I agree, the evil!Fai idea just breaks my heart. I love him too much for him to turn evil and betray the group, but I really don't see it happening.
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« Reply #334 on: June 11 2006, 09:30 am »
I can see Fai doing something semi-evil in his past... but currently I think he's come to care for his companions, so he won't betray them so easily when push comes to shove.
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« Reply #335 on: June 12 2006, 12:59 am »
Yes, I hope you're right. Evil Fai is nice to watch, but it pains my heart....nyu....if he does turn out to be evil in the end, he'll probably hesitate to hurt (or kill) Kuro-chan and the others and end up hurting (or...gulp killing) himself instead. GYAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #336 on: June 12 2006, 01:25 am »
Personally, I don't think he's going to turn out to be very evil, maybe selfish or something along those lines, but certainly not malicious. I mean, I feel that there would have been some sort of hint towards that. And yes, we've gotten a lot of dark looks from the guy, but nothing overly malicious in nature.

...Not that I can think of, anyway! Fai suggesting they kidnap the Ryanban in Koryo, maybe.

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« Reply #337 on: June 12 2006, 06:23 am »
Well I think Fai might have been a general in a war and a tactiction, assasination on the side, come on look at Outo with those darts, why else would he fight so well, and have a great plan at the same time?

Fai might have gotten tired of war in his world, and want to know what it was like with out it, well travling with Kuro and the others, its awalys bound to be a war. I'm just waiting for 119 and going crazy......
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« Reply #338 on: June 18 2006, 03:06 am »
Well I think Fai might have been a general in a war and a tactiction, assasination on the side, come on look at Outo with those darts, why else would he fight so well, and have a great plan at the same time?

Kurogane and Syaoran were pretty convinced than Fai was a "combat veteran"  back in Hanshin, so I think that's pretty likely. I could see Fai and Ashura-ou getting involved in some pretty complicated plotting between the two of them.
I don't think Fai's likely to turn on the main Tsubasa group, as he really seems to care about them, but as to whether he played the "good guy" back Celes...in the very least, he seems to be blaming himself for something, hence the *ANGST*.
I can imagine Fai and Ashura-ou causing something really horrible to happen while only having the best of intentions. Or some good intentions, at any rate. Ashura-ou was always an "ends justify the means" kind of guy...
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« Reply #339 on: June 24 2006, 01:05 pm »
Fai is a very mysterious character, and I think that besides Syaoran, he intrigues the reader with the lack of information we get out of him or his past.
It is very annoying at times when we get to know more of Sakura, Syaoran and Kuroganes' past than the magicians'.
Even now in chapter 120, the newest chapter (don't worry no spoilers) Kurogane gets to talk to him again and the reader gets a bit more of information out of him..
But now at this heights of the manga, we know everything of Syaoran and the meaning behind his strange past- but we still have yet to discover what really happened in Fai's life.

Overall, I am rooted to the manga, this character is by far my favorite character of all.

I can see Fai running away from Ashura because he was more than his court magician.
Sorry if not all of you like yaoi, I mean no offence.
It is likely that Fai was in some sort of relationship with Ashura, perhaps best friends (like Yukito and Touya), war veterans or even more than that.

It could be possible, since we (the reader) get hints of yaoi from one of the side stories in Tsubasa (Shurano/sharano with Ashura-ou and Yasha-ou beinga  couple) CLAMP has many strange couples and ideas, then again their originality and style in their stories is what made them what tehy are today.

Then again, he could've been his most powerful mage/soldier and used him in a way so horrific that he was forced to turn against his own king because he realized too late that he was being used for such malicious cause....
Or something of that sort of nature.

Man... I could go on and on, but I have to shut up now ^^;