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The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« on: April 04 2005, 11:22 am »
Well, it was a long time ago when I first discovered Card Captor Sakura. It was in the form of Cardcaptors. I was pretty young, around five or six years old (can't truly remember).

My sister was becoming a short-time fan of Cardcaptors. I never really took the time to watch the show, since I was actually preoccupied with Digimon. I did, however, witness the opening, and was not at all impressed.

Five years later (A.K.A. 2005, foolish humans) I saw and finished Card Captor Sakura. Impressive work. Then soon after I saw a segment of episode one from Cardcaptors for the first time in my life, which I immediately recognized to be episode 8 from the original. What did I think?

What. The. Hell.

I personally think this is a heresy. A travesty. Nelvana, the coordinators in charge of the dub, were doing something that could very well mean the downfall of CLAMP in America. Card Captor Sakura, an amazing anime with unmeasurable amounts of character development, was turned into Cardcaptors, an emotionless dubbed anime with little of the "romantic" theme that CCS was so renowned for. Not only that, someone tried hopelessly to make Syaoran a major character. When he already was in season 3. So why does it matter now?

I was pretty mad after that. So mad that I finally got around to posting it here, only a few weeks afterwards.

What's your opinion?

(Sidenote: while I don't like the name Cardcaptors, I definitely think Nelvana did an excellent job for the show's new logo. Though it won't replace the original, it looks great anyways.)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #1 on: April 04 2005, 11:23 am »
Cardcaptors is EVIL
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #2 on: April 04 2005, 11:25 am »
hah! it is...  :angry:

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #3 on: April 04 2005, 11:25 am »
For an administrator of a forum, your posts are rather short and undetailed. Hmm, maybe you require some more training?

Nah, just kidding. I usually expect more from a post than a single sentence, though. Not that you need to do that for me. ^^;; Suggestion-wise, why do you feel that Cardcaptors is evil? What kind of feeling do you get inside when you hear the word Cardcaptors? And similar.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #4 on: April 04 2005, 12:34 pm »
Sorry, had to leave the room.

Just that I hate what was done to CCS, in terms of cut stuff, and the removal of S+S's relationship.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #5 on: April 04 2005, 12:44 pm »
What?! REALLY?! They took that out?!

Evil people...
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #6 on: April 04 2005, 12:47 pm »
yeap, just about all of it :(
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #7 on: April 04 2005, 06:07 pm »
yeah.. they took S+S out! :angry: Also, I've heard the voices and they're no way good compared to the original seiyuus. But I haven't really watched any of its episodes... :tongue:

hey! my CCS fansite is called "Cardcaptors Syaoran and Sakura!" :lol:

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #8 on: April 05 2005, 08:43 am »
awwwww, it was not that bad although they did downplay the relationship a great deal.......
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #9 on: April 05 2005, 08:58 am »
HAHA i watched Cardcaptors first and then discovered Cardcaptor Sakura later..

but i really dun like Cardcaptors now.. it was really bad.. taking all the syaoran and sakura parts.. they took a lot of stuff out.. that's y i watched the jap version.. in jap they have 70 epis but in english they have only like 60 sumthing i think.. i cut sum parts out.. they don't show sakura telling yukito her feelings and how meiling was crying during the 3rd season.. i was so mad at Nelvana..

plus did u no that they used 2 voices for syaoran.. HAHA and wen syaoran was blushing the in the english version.. it would look weird because they would make him say sumthing else other than anything to do wit liking sakura.. so yea..
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #10 on: April 05 2005, 01:36 pm »
HAHA i watched Cardcaptors first and then discovered Cardcaptor Sakura later..

but i really dun like Cardcaptors now.. it was really bad.. taking all the syaoran and sakura parts.. they took a lot of stuff out.. that's y i watched the jap version.. in jap they have 70 epis but in english they have only like 60 sumthing i think.. i cut sum parts out.. they don't show sakura telling yukito her feelings and how meiling was crying during the 3rd season.. i was so mad at Nelvana..

plus did u no that they used 2 voices for syaoran.. HAHA and wen syaoran was blushing the in the english version.. it would look weird because they would make him say sumthing else other than anything to do wit liking sakura.. so yea..

   What the.... :angry:Yeah!!!I don't even like CC than CCSakura,of course 'cause there are incomplete episodes,cut-off scenes and also the voices are terrible.Unlike in our country,they dubbed really wonderful!!!! :okay:
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #11 on: April 05 2005, 01:58 pm »
i agree wit u.. the first movie was dubbed too but i didn't like it for sum reason.. hmm i'm not sure y though.. i haven't watched the jap version of the movie yet though.. downloading now though.. *screams because it's taking forever.. but yea and i think they took out some yukito and sakura parts in the movie but i'm not too sure
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #12 on: April 05 2005, 05:32 pm »
Well, dubbing in th US ( or the english version) has already a bad reputation. Just take erm....Yugioh for an example. Tht like to put add-on clothing to the ladies whom they think dress in skimpy stuff, and aren't sutable for kids to watch, and also the amend all the cards'style, and they absolutely look like....erm...you call that cards?? Also, the voice-dubbing is sometimes bad...like some people always sounds older than they do...lol
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #13 on: April 05 2005, 06:08 pm »
I watched a few epsiodes of Cardcaptors some years ago. The english version was so different from the jap version I first watched. There were a few cut-off scenes, voice-dubbing was bad and the way the characters talked sound too mature. In conclusion, Cardcaptors need improvement.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #14 on: April 05 2005, 06:11 pm »
Cardcaptors needs erasing from history *calls the erase card*

- Give use a uncut, using japanese names, in otherwords no-changes dub :D
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« Reply #15 on: April 05 2005, 08:46 pm »
I watched Cardcaptors Sakura first. When I was connected t the net (about 2 years after I finished the series) I found out about Cardcaptors and my initial reation was..

" *swears in native language* WHAT DID THEY DO?"

Sakura's brattier, Tomoyo (Madison, eck) is brattier, Kero (pronounced Keero) was weird and annoying for my taste, Li was a bully (Nelvana refused to acknowledge he was nice) and everybody, everything's messed up.
Sakura's chant rhymes (?) and the episodes were not in order, Yamazaki and Chiharu were cousins (Argh!) and S+S moments were cut out!

S+S moments were cut out! *faints in anger*


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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #16 on: April 05 2005, 09:16 pm »
I watched Cardcaptors Sakura first. When I was connected t the net (about 2 years after I finished the series) I found out about Cardcaptors and my initial reation was..

" *swears in native language* WHAT DID THEY DO?"

Sakura's brattier, Tomoyo (Madison, eck) is brattier, Kero (pronounced Keero) was weird and annoying for my taste, Li was a bully (Nelvana refused to acknowledge he was nice) and everybody, everything's messed up.
Sakura's chant rhymes (?) and the episodes were not in order, Yamazaki and Chiharu were cousins (Argh!) and S+S moments were cut out!

S+S moments were cut out! *faints in anger*

Thats a very typical cut-out move that they always do in dubbing. They always thik its too much violence, too much sexual related stuff, and also stuff that hints towards sennsitive topics are all erased. I just went to a site flaming he dubbs on Yugioh. Surly...there was no blood, no slaps, no crashes, and no "naked" people. I'm sure if TRC haad any of those elements ( i doubt it wouldn't) and is liscensed in the US, all of that would be cut out. *evil cakkle from the dubbers* So....
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #17 on: April 05 2005, 09:20 pm »
let us pray that Clamp doesn't let that happen
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #18 on: April 05 2005, 09:22 pm »
let us pray that Clamp doesn't let that happen

??? You mind elaborating your meaning?
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« Reply #19 on: April 05 2005, 09:26 pm »
not licensing it or putting some tough restrictions on it (so we don't end up with yet another c**p dub of a japanese anime)
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