Topic: The heresy that is Cardcaptors. (Read 106079 times)

Miss Jenni-Maie · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06 2005, 10:40 am »

Ahh! Whenever I hear either "Cardcaptors" or "Nelvana" I want to kill something. Slowly.
CC is one of the most dissapointing dubs in the history of time. In fact, I don't even consider it to be the same show! They changed the plot, characters, relationships, order of episodes, EVERYTHING! Now, whenever I say something about CardCaptor Sakura,Â people always go, "Ahh! That show totally blows!" and I just say, "No! CardCaptors completely blows!"Â Then being idiots they say, "It's the same thing!"
So I kill them. Slowly. With my detailed explanation (which I haven't written since I don't have enough character space ahha) as to why CardCaptors ISN'T CCS.

I remember when I saw the original episode 66 of CCS where Syaoran comforts Sakura after she was rejected by Yukito. I thought it was one the most sweetest, adorable, most memorable part of the show. When it comes to S&S moments, anyways.
So when I was sitting down, watching CardCaptors (this was when I was first watching it and the only thing I had really noticed was the crappy voice acting and horrible name changes)....I was horrified to see that they cut that part of the episode out COMPLETELY!! I actually threw the remote controller at my television and swore randomly in Portugese, Japanese, French, Spanish, German, Chinese and any other language I could think of in aÂ fit of total rage. You definitly don't want to know how I reacted (or who I hurt ahah) when they cut out Syaoran confessing his love on episode 69. And the whole Airport scene in the last episode

It was the most depressing thing ever!

But yeah, I can't exactly give a mature speech as to why CardCaptors sucks total @$$ because I'd end up just swearing and setting a bomb off in Nelvana headquarters.Â Ahh, I never realised how much hate I am filled with.
Ahh, I waste time with complaining, there's nothing we can do about it. We've tried Petitions, letters, everything. And all they can say is, "You got a problem with it? Go by the DVDs!"
Pssh, B*****Ds. I'll got do just that.

Ralea · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06 2005, 10:50 am »

Just my feelings exactly.

D.J.P · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06 2005, 10:55 am »

I have brought all the DVD's (cost me more then $900 Australian but

)

Ralea · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06 2005, 11:22 am »

But what?

D.J.P · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06 2005, 11:27 am »

its part of the sentence, I just put 'but' at the end instead of the beginning (which you are allowed to do)

Ralea · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06 2005, 11:29 am »

Oh...shelled out a lot of money huh? It would've cost less if they dubbed it right and let the story go on itself.

D.J.P · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06 2005, 11:30 am »

yeap a lot of money

Miss Jenni-Maie · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06 2005, 11:47 am »

Ouch.
Stupid Nelvana and their evil ways.
[plots world domination . . . or at least Nelvanas]

Ralea · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06 2005, 12:09 pm »

And the voices.....

I heard one fan comment that during Li and Meilin were fighting over the Shot card, they sounded like two 5 year olds instead of two 10 year olds.

(The video clip is in Nelvana's site: http://www.clowbook.com)

Japanese seiyuus are definitely better.

fisah · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06 2005, 02:00 pm »

Cardcaptors bring back memories I'd rather not think about and just hearing the name make me cringe. I had the unpleasant time watching that show since I live in Canada and well, that pretty much spells out " EVIL DUBS R' US" but I was naive, stupid, young. To be honest, the only thing that made this show even be called a anime was the design, everything else was butchered, 'amercianized' and destroyed. I swear, I didn't think this was an anime until I finally got the episodes of the internet, and it was a diffrent show. The music was better, the storyline actually made sense and the voice acting was wonderful. In fact, I didn't think SAkura every said "Hoe" before, I was like "wtf?" when I related it to the dub-catastrophe.

In short, CardCaptors is the worse dubbing expereince I've had, and I never want to go through something like that ever again, I hope Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle never gets dubbed because it's just going to be deja vu for me. Maybe I could be wrong, but the scars of Cardcaptor's still remain.

D.J.P · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06 2005, 02:02 pm »

Agrees

Ralea · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06 2005, 05:09 pm »

Hear, hear!

ashleygurl · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06 2005, 09:48 pm »

I think what Endoh pointed out was totally GREAT! I totally agree. I enjoyed the post.

That was a very interesting post and glad that you did post it in this forum!

Even though I never come across any epsiode of CC, I did go to clowbook.com to take a look at the preview clips...and I was intensely mortified O o O!!!!! I was like WTH?

Nelvena did a seriously bad job...a good anime is so easily thrown to the trash due to their stupidity.
Actually, if they've only saved ALL the S+S moments...i bet the dubbed version would turn out better...at least the fans would be content about the S+S thing first, even though the cast, the BGMs and the plot totally sucked.

If only they have the brain to understand that S+S moments could save the whole thing...like leaving those scenes alone, instead of cutting them /rearranging them. Then, the dubbed version might not be criticised/flamed as much as it is now.

D.J.P · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06 2005, 09:53 pm »

maybe, but the damage is done :cries:

*hopes that one day there will be a true english dub*

Little Wolf · « **Reply #34 on:** April 07 2005, 03:46 am »

They could re-release it or something that's much better but I doubt it will ever happen...

by the way, I also enjoyed reading fisah's post and Endoh's incredibly long post.

Good job!

you two deserve cookies cos those were exactly my thoughts too about CC.

Espo · « **Reply #35 on:** April 07 2005, 04:57 am »

It's strange, I must say. I first saw Cardcaptors when I was ten. Well. They don't show many anime in England, the only things on tv are/were Cardcaptors, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Beyblade, Pokemon, Digimon, Astro Boy, and some other boyish things that seem to follow the same theme as something else.

When I first saw Cardcaptors, i didn't want to watch it. I was a stubborn ten year old who didn't want to betray Pokemon. (Ha ha.) But I did. In fact, the only thing that really made me watch it was Sakura herself. Even if she did sound like a thirteen/fourteen year old (i thought she was...) she was still a little but cute. But not as cute as CCS, I must say. I actually watched most of the CC series, though I never saw the final judgement or the end of it. I really did though. Thinking about it, the only reason i watched CC was because of the fantasy... kinda. I love fantasy ^^ but anyways, when I came involved with the net, I found out about the scenes with S+S. I didn't really expect that. Since, well, Syaoran never liked Sakura, hated her all the way through. And I was stuck with Sakura and Yukito. Shows the influence from a dub.

Though when I did get CCS, this January (oh yes! i got a hold of it!) I saw a total differant anime. This is from someone who mostly watched everything of CC. The music, the characters, the relationships, the cards even. I then found out after that a lot of the relationships had been cut.. well, i knew that. But even the one at the end with Syaoran going back to Hong Kong?! I was like, 'Surely you jest.' But they weren't.

I think I have another point about Nelvana [evil glare] that they didn't do the second movie dub. The voices, characters, script, stayed the same as the original in the second movie. Why? Because Nelvana didn't want to do it, did they? The completely ereased any relationship, so, why would they encourage it? So. I think the only good dub of CCS is the second movie. Which kept the same name for starters.

So. I think Sli is right. Get Erase Card. Erase everyones memories of CC. and CC itself.

Little Wolf · « **Reply #36 on:** April 07 2005, 05:36 am »

Yes, the second movie released by Nelvana is okay but I still prefer the Japan-released version.

They just weren't able to find a way on how to ruin a movie as good as the 2nd CCS movie so they gave up!

Espo · « **Reply #37 on:** April 07 2005, 05:39 am »

Good thing they did... they would have had it if they had ruined it.

Ralea · « **Reply #38 on:** April 07 2005, 09:17 am »

Imagine CCS movie 2......dubbed with Nelvana's Cardcaptors voices......

.....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

But you're right, if they try to dub it, all those cuts and changes in the series would be wasted since the 2nd movie was full of S+S!

Miss Jenni-Maie · « **Reply #39 on:** April 07 2005, 10:43 am »

Thank GOD Nelvana didn't do the second movie!!!!Â

Bang Zoom Entertainment did it I believe.

The voice actors are a hell of alot better than in CardCaptors. They tried to make them sound similar to the originals.
But they still aren't the best. But, hell, alot of voice dubs s uck total @$$ (like Inu-Yasha EWW!)
Syaoran still sounds like he has a cold like he did in CardCaptors.Â

And on the MAJOR plus side, they didn't try to change anything!! -sigh- That made me eternally happy.
But yeah, I'm gonna stick with my subtitles thank-you very much!Â

Oh wow! Another cookie! YAY! Thank-you!
I should complain about Nelvana more often

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