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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #220 on: April 24 2005, 04:16 pm »
***They should just subtitle all anime on TV and leave it as it is.***

Maybe someday American TV companies will get it together and realize that people who seriously watch Anime want to see it the way it was intended.

They took out everything that was important to turn CCS into Cardcraptors.
The story is about unconditional love.
What they turned it into was a mish mash of action scenes when taken away from the rest of the anime don't even make any sense, just so they could edit out everything that would be supposedly "improper" for their viewing audience!  :angry:

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« Reply #221 on: April 24 2005, 04:22 pm »
My thoughts exactly!

That's why dubs suck so much, if the producers actually thought about what the viewers want, I know there would be more ratings on dubs, right now, people have such low expectations, there pratcially forced to watch dub since no company shows the real anime that isn't cut up. I wonder when companies like that will get a clue -_-

At least VIZ was okay, I liked how they did Inuyasha, at times I wish they dubbed CCS rather than Nelvana, they seem more reliable >_> But I still perfer subs over any dubs!
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #222 on: April 24 2005, 11:27 pm »
@fisah--- that is just so true!

I'm not sure, but I think the dubbing of Gundam Seed was quite okay..better than Cardcaptors that is.. T_T... except for Lacus' singing voice... argghh~!

why, oh why did Nelvana had to be soo MEAN?! >_<"...

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« Reply #223 on: April 25 2005, 02:22 am »
Hahahaha, yeah, Lacus's singing voice was funny, it seemed like an older person was singing it, and it was off-tune too. But I guess they translated the song pretty good. Also, another plus at dubs, is because companies get seiyuus that are professional, and can sing if the character needs too, while dubs could care less about that.

Nelvana had one priority: to make CCS into the new pokemon, if a anime contains something about catching stuff, it means thats all it will be about, that's why all the romance/humor and pratically everything else was taken out. There is more to a show than catching stuff ya know.
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« Reply #224 on: April 25 2005, 06:20 am »
My thoughts exactly!
With all the advertiements/movies/media (cause practically all of it has to do with sex) all these kids are watching and being influenced by, you'd think a little bit of romance in a so called, "Childrens" anime would be nothing! I mean, there will be those beer, condom and anything to do with sex/drug use commercials playing during the breaks on CC......does a little shonen-ai REALLY matter?
It confuses me. Greatly confuses me.
Haha, and by the way...I had my first crush in the 1st grade :tongue3:
That reminds me of how whenever Fox would air anime, the dubbing companies would always edit the anime on their Saturday morning programming to make it "suitable for kids" (like it wasn't already), and then one time when I was watching it, I saw that they showed an ad for The Simpsons during the commercial breaks.  Yeah, that's a good idea.  Let's waste all our money on cutting poor anime series to death to make them "suitable for kids" and then show an ad during the commercial breaks to get kids to watch some dirty American cartoon sitcom which has practically zero moral value to it whatsoever! ><
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« Reply #225 on: April 25 2005, 07:55 am »
*nods*

I compelety agree with you, that's why american/canadian producers are biased, if an american show is 'unsuitable' than they'll still air since it's your typical american tv show, but if it's an anime, they will pick at it till theres nothing left. They expect foreign shows to be 'inapporpiate' but a sitcom that has sex and all sorts of other things is considered fine since it was made by americans >.<
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #226 on: April 25 2005, 10:51 am »
Haha, and by the way...I had my first crush in the 1st grade :tongue3:

Off topic: Mine was when I was still in Kindergarten (beat that!:D)

On topic: *watching Cardcaptors episode 8* Sheesh, this is definitely worse than I thought. What's wrong with good relationship with other people? No to mention they tried to squeeze a few funny comments that are really lame.

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« Reply #227 on: April 25 2005, 11:14 am »
Hahahaa, I barely remember any quotes from that show. But man, there jokes were lame. They should just stick to the real jokes...that are actually funny >_>
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« Reply #228 on: April 25 2005, 12:02 pm »
What about this line?

Madison: Have you tried calling Keero yet?

Sakoorah: Not yet.  He's probably at home sleeping right now.

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Madison: Yeah, you're probaby right.  *girls giggle annoyingly like the joke they made was something special*
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« Reply #229 on: April 25 2005, 12:13 pm »
LMAO, that's funny.

I use to think the 'twerp' one was pretty lame too, but I guess the literal translation would've of been weird, and too 'hard' fo them to work with [sigh]
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« Reply #230 on: April 25 2005, 04:42 pm »
Off topic: Mine was when I was still in Kindergarten (beat that!:D)

Haha, as much as I'd like to beat that, I can't  :tongue3: Althought, I was fascinated by this one boy in preschool...but I never counted it as a crush. Hehe, his name was Travis....he was a weird kid.

Anyways!
I hate that when they try to incorporate those "kid safe" jokes that make you wanna stick your fingers down your throat.
Blah. I just plain hate all dubs.
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« Reply #231 on: April 25 2005, 07:43 pm »
*watches other CC episodes*

Madison: Whatever.

Put a sock in it Madison.

I actually have these episodes in my computer since when I went CCS episode hunting a few years back, I thought I was downloading CCS. Whew, was I wrong. After watching the first epi I downloaded, I stayed away from my computer for 1 whole month. That's why even if I'm in the Philippines, I knew about the series.

Haha, as much as I'd like to beat that, I can't :tongue3: Althought, I was fascinated by this one boy in preschool...but I never counted it as a crush. Hehe, his name was Travis....he was a weird kid.

Anyways!
I hate that when they try to incorporate those "kid safe" jokes that make you wanna stick your fingers down your throat.
Blah. I just plain hate all dubs.
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Those jokes weren't even in the same line as funny for me. They made me wanna scream "Subs!" even harder. 
The song changes were a drag too. They're version of "Catch you Catch me" made my ears bleed.


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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #232 on: April 25 2005, 09:07 pm »
On topic: *watching Cardcaptors episode 8* Sheesh, this is definitely worse than I thought. What's wrong with good relationship with other people? No to mention they tried to squeeze a few funny comments that are really lame.

 Lee: This isn't Chinese Checkers!

*falls of computer chair* Worst dubbing of Anime I've ever seen/heard.

lame, but fun to make fun of.  my best friend and i have tons of fun mocking that one line.  u know wut's sad?  that's one of the only references to china that involves syaoran that they ever make.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #233 on: April 25 2005, 09:09 pm »
Yes sad isn't it

and Relea, the line was: 'What do you think this is?, Chinese Checkers, its a lasin board'

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« Reply #234 on: April 26 2005, 12:09 am »
Another thing I hated about CC was how sometimes the characters would make reactions that made zero sense.  Like, I remember in the Elevator episode, Nelbaka changed it so that they went to an ancient Egpyian mummy exhibit instead of a teddy bear exhibit (I guess a teddy bear exhibit would have been "too cute" for a boy's Saturday morning Pokemon rip-off cartoon; although the scene where they showed them at the exhibit while Shaoran's character image song was playing was a little bit scary ^^;;).  Then, when they're eating at the table, the dialog was changed so that they were talking about unusual occurences.

Eli: That reminds me, Li.  Have you noticed anymore strange occurences?

Madison: What are you talking about?  Li hasn't noticed anything strange, has he?

Sakoorah: Nope, and I know I sure haven't!

Then, Li gets all upset for no reason at all, so when Sakoorah asked him what's wrong, I'm like, "That's what I'd like to know."  o.O
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« Reply #235 on: April 26 2005, 08:11 am »
LMAO, I remember that too. Also, when Li blushed all the time, he'd say something so 'li-has-a-crush-on-sakura like. I remeber I use to think that they might as well take it all out since the basis of the third season was Syaoran's crush. Man, those producers are so hilarious :P
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #236 on: April 26 2005, 09:22 am »
LMAO, I remember that too. Also, when Li blushed all the time, he'd say something so 'li-has-a-crush-on-sakura like. I remeber I use to think that they might as well take it all out since the basis of the third season was Syaoran's crush. Man, those producers are so hilarious :P

Nelvana couldn't even cover it up properly -_-  Why didn't they NOT try to change it then if their best way to cover it up was the lamest!? :angry:  *kicks Nelvana hard where it hurts :XD:* <-- I only wish!

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« Reply #237 on: April 26 2005, 10:46 am »

Eli: That reminds me, Li. Have you noticed anymore strange occurences?

Madison: What are you talking about? Li hasn't noticed anything strange, has he?

Sakoorah: Nope, and I know I sure haven't!

Then, Li gets all upset for no reason at all, so when Sakoorah asked him what's wrong, I'm like, "That's what I'd like to know." o.O

Teddy bears! Then again, they didn't even show Li making a teddy bear (a boy making a plush animal is just too weird)

You know, they shouldn't have aired the episodes of the original third season if they were just gonna cover Li's feelings for Sakura.  And the scene at the end of the elevator episode...the phone call....-_-


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« Reply #238 on: April 26 2005, 11:43 am »
The episode was so pathetic. Sure they kept in the hug but what good is that if we don't know why he's giving her a hug!?!?!?! It's so unbelievable. Nelvana thinks were stupid, that we can't realize these type of things, but in truth we notice it! ALOT! I swear, why did they license it if they weren't going to follow the plot line and stick to the script! It would've been easier for them, and they wouldn't look like Idiots!

I remeber when I watched the dub (and I didn't have a clue about the real show) I use to notice how pathetic the show was when it came to romance, you could tell something was missing but you couldnt put your finger on it.

Well, I watched the third season in jap, and I realized what was missing......

.....PRATICALLY THE WHOLE SHOW!
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« Reply #239 on: April 26 2005, 09:36 pm »
I agree with you, they did such a bad job on it that I switch off the tele every time its on.  :angry:I'm totally dissapointed and II might as well read the manga even though it is much shorter in comparision  to the anime version. Nelvana just turned them into weird and overreacting characters! Even the Chinese bubbed version did a much better job on it. :dodge:
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