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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #240 on: April 27 2005, 04:00 am »
Hmm, that's a funny scenario to believe. I've never seen the dub myself...

Sakura: *starts swinging on the swing*
Syaoran: *watches silently*
Sakura: I'm bored. So bored, I want to cry.
Syaoran: *stands up hastily*
Sakura: Oh my God, I'm so bored!!
Syaoran: I understand completely.
Sakura: Oh great, now I have to blow my nose, it's so stuffy. Ow, something got in my eye.
Syaoran: *offers Sakura the handkerchief*
Sakura: Thanks.
Syaoran: Don't get gunk all over it.
Sakura: *stands up* Thanks. Can I hug you?
Syaoran: Why?
Sakura: Nothing better to do.
Syaoran: Okay. *hug*

Bah, I bet the dub doesn't even make it that good.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #241 on: April 27 2005, 05:54 am »
Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on April 27 2005, 04:00 am
Hmm, that's a funny scenario to believe. I've never seen the dub myself...

Sakura: *starts swinging on the swing*
Syaoran: *watches silently*
Sakura: I'm bored. So bored, I want to cry.
Syaoran: *stands up hastily*
Sakura: Oh my God, I'm so bored!!
Syaoran: I understand completely.
Sakura: Oh great, now I have to blow my nose, it's so stuffy. Ow, something got in my eye.
Syaoran: *offers Sakura the handkerchief*
Sakura: Thanks.
Syaoran: Don't get gunk all over it.
Sakura: *stands up* Thanks. Can I hug you?
Syaoran: Why?
Sakura: Nothing better to do.
Syaoran: Okay. *hug*

Bah, I bet the dub doesn't even make it that good.

OMG! The dub indeed couldn't even make it sound that good :rotfl:  I couldn't have said it better myself  *Wow, that's how much I hate "Cardcaptors"*
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #242 on: April 27 2005, 07:46 am »
Forgive me for saying this, but there's actually one scene in CC that I actually thought was funnier than it was in CCS.  In the Japanese version of the first movie, Tomoyo rambles on often about how she brought her battle costumes with her for Sakura to wear, so when she finally pulls it out later in the movie, Sakura acts all surprised, even though she really has no reason to, since Tomoyo had been talking about it quite a lot.  However, in CC, Madison doesn't mention that she brought her battle costumes at all until she pulls it out towards the end of the movie, so the scene is somewhat funnier in CC becuase you're more surprised that she actually brought her battle costumes all the way to Hong Kong with her, since she didn't mention it any before then.  That's probably the only scene that I actually thought was better in CC than in CCS.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #243 on: April 27 2005, 08:16 am »
The only thing I can say about CC is that it had one of the best English opening themes for it's time. That's the odd thing about the anime brought out during that time, is that they all had pretty decent OPs considering that most other American shows... well... didn't. Pokemon had a rather addictive OP as well, and Shaman King is catchy. The worst example would be Digimon... but, we won't go into that.

Also, I know it's normal for people to bash the english versions of shows once they've seen the uncut version, let's reflect for a moment: CC was made for kids, it was basically CCS-JR, so the cutting had to happen to make it as an American children's show. Also, it's difficult to expect kids to read subtitles, and the dubbers did the best they could. I won't say that the cut version of CCS could hold a candle to the real version, but can you argue that it didn't fill the purpose that was set out for it?

If they coulda just gotten rid of those ridiculous sing-song incantations...
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #244 on: April 27 2005, 08:58 am »
Considering that the dub-only CC DVDs were cancelled due to poor sales, I think it's safe to say that it didn't fulfill the purpose it was set out to do, unless its purpose was to be a complete waste of time.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #245 on: April 27 2005, 09:05 am »
Well, yes, I'd say releasing it on DVD was a bad idea since anime DVDs are the most ridiculously expensive things ever, but I was talking about the TV-only version that played on WB for a bit.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #246 on: April 27 2005, 09:32 am »
That's the problem though, the show isn't only centered for kids, that's why it's such a problem. CCS was centered for all ages, not just kids. Mind you, even if it was for kids, dont you think they went a tad bit extreme. They took out everything that had some type of emotion and feelings, children who watch the show are going to notice the show can get a tad bit boring is all about catching the cards. The show also shows the problems with Sakura and her life, her family, her friends, her school, her relationships as well. Sakura's life wasn't all about catching the cards, and that's one of the biggest mistakes Nelvana did. Not all animes are about catching stuff, so they shouldn't try to make something that wasn't meant to be.

I agree with you though about how they did gave a effort on how they wanted the show to present it self. They wanted a kids' show, and that's what happened. My only problem though is how they interperted Sakura's life, and especially her relationships with the people around her. Also, I wouldn't mind watching the show if it was in english, and it was well intereperted. I even wouldn't mind the 'Cardcaptors' I'm just angry that they took out everything else that had nothing to do with cards.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #247 on: April 27 2005, 10:08 am »
Of course, I agree with most of the CC bashing that goes on, I just thought it would be interesting to play the devil's advocate. I wonder what would've happened if Disney had gotten a hold of it instead of WB...?
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #248 on: April 27 2005, 10:40 am »
*cringes*

I don't even want to think about it, but than again, Disney did do the english versions of Movies like Spirited Away, and I liked it alot! Lots of the stuff were kept in, and I thought they did a good job.

Also, Disney has children movies that are centered around romance, and love, and lions making out! and kisses XD So, I think they'd do a pretty okay job.

*Note: I really don't remember if it was Disney, or some other crack company that did the dubbing for Spirited Away, but I'm just assuming,so feel free to correct me!
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #249 on: April 27 2005, 10:52 am »
I know that the American version Cardcaptors took out the Sakura and Syoaran moments which is very evil of them to do :angry: But with out Cardcaptors I would never had learned about Cardcaptor Sakura :) so I have to at least give some credit to them for introducing Cardcaptors  :hello2:
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« Reply #250 on: April 27 2005, 11:11 am »
On the American Cardcraptors I don't believe they even showed the elevator episode or the episode where they are on the swings and Sakura is crying.
That would just be too much for them to cover!

I don't think in Japan (correct me if I'm wrong here if you are Japanese) they set out to make CCS or any anime strictly a "kids show". I don't think they stick things into catagories quite the way we do.

They don't seem to be as uptight about relationships as many other people (I'm speaking for U.S. here).

CCS SHOULD have been fine for American tv, and for KIDS, just the way it was aired in Japan. Unfortunately, many people are just too biased or uptight to appreciate what CCS is saying.

Sad really.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #251 on: April 27 2005, 11:18 am »
I know bcuz I live in the U.S. and I saw CardCaptors I thought it was ok for the moment but they buchered some of the shows and it was so un-fair how I knew that is from watching CCS and also so friends over here told me. :) So I think CCS is better but I will always remember how I saw and found CCS its from CC I thought they were both the same intill I saw that some of the parts were in the movie of CCS werent in CC. :(
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #252 on: April 27 2005, 11:42 am »
Quote from: Koudanshi on April 27 2005, 09:05 am
Well, yes, I'd say releasing it on DVD was a bad idea since anime DVDs are the most ridiculously expensive things ever, but I was talking about the TV-only version that played on WB for a bit.
Quote from: Sakaki on April 27 2005, 11:11 am
On the American Cardcraptors I don't believe they even showed the elevator episode or the episode where they are on the swings and Sakura is crying.
That would just be too much for them to cover!

They did air the Elevator episode in the U.S. which was screwed up, as people have already stated several times in this thread....As for the episode where Sakura confessed her feelings to Yukito, if I remember correctly, Nelbaka combined that episode with the episode where Touya gave Yue his powers, and cut out all the scenes involving Yukito taking Sakura on a tour of the school, including the scene where she confesses her feelings to him, and they completely cut out the swing scene...
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #253 on: April 27 2005, 11:55 am »
Ok correction time:

One: The elevator episode was in there, but everything changed around as usual
Two: They didn't merge those two episodes (Touya give Yue his powers & Sakura's confession to Yukito), just changed again (like usual)
Three: The swing scene was in but with a different meaning again and they cut the part out when Syaoran holds Sakura while she is crying.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #254 on: April 27 2005, 01:06 pm »
I was sure they had combined those episodes or maybe I'm confusing myself with the last two episodes....
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #255 on: April 27 2005, 01:08 pm »
Yes, only the last two episodes (69+70) where combined

They used a lot of flashbacks, to still end up having 70 episodes
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #256 on: April 27 2005, 01:18 pm »
Hmmm, I wasn't positive. I actually have only seen a couple Cardcraptors!
Lucky me. :O)
I get a lot of my cardcraptors info from: http://www.ccsvscc.com/eps.html
I kinda took for granted that they mixed parts of episodes.

I'm surprised they even showed the part where Touya gave Yue his powers here in the U.S.
Surely that was edited? Can't show two guys hugging on American tv!
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« Reply #257 on: April 27 2005, 01:29 pm »
Yes, they did show two guys hugging....but didn't show a female and a male hugging 0.o *ish weirded out*

Everything was changed around, so it looked like Sakura was crying because of Touya's well-being, I really don't see the signifigance of that, why would Sakura tell Syaoran something about her brother....who he hates! They could've kept that in at least, I mean, they showed Yukito and Touya hugging, what was so horrible about Sakura needing some comforts, I guess my robot theory has come into play again -_-
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #258 on: April 27 2005, 02:29 pm »
***They could've kept that in at least, I mean, they showed Yukito and Touya hugging, what was so horrible about Sakura needing some comforts, I guess my robot theory has come into play again***

Didn't ya know, in America, boys and girls NEVER hug!  :wink:
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #259 on: April 27 2005, 04:23 pm »
Quote from: Sakaki on April 27 2005, 02:29 pm
***They could've kept that in at least, I mean, they showed Yukito and Touya hugging, what was so horrible about Sakura needing some comforts, I guess my robot theory has come into play again***

Didn't ya know, in America, boys and girls NEVER hug! :wink:

er.. but even tho i know lots of americans who do hug other boys and girls.. they are irrelevent ? XD

i'm gonna have to re-watch the whole series now just to see things i missed in Cardcaptors ^^ Thank the lord for Downloading Animé ^^;;
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