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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #320 on: May 08 2005, 06:13 pm »
Off my head I can't say when Sakura talked about 360's

as for the website comment that was the sword card episode (at the end), don't remember specifcs been a fair while since I've seen that episode

Sakura talked about 360s when Li first appeared...then Madison said "I'd rather drive 100 miles in a vcar with Li Showron then attempt a 360"

And Madison talked about redesigning her website after filming Sakura with Julian...I think.

I've got the first 24 (english version, not american) Cardcaptors episodes on video, so I know a lot about those first few episodes.


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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #321 on: May 08 2005, 06:18 pm »
In that episode:

Tomoyo: In place of the card collecting last night that I couldn't record on film.....

For Cardcaptors:

I'm going to redesign my website tonight and upload footage or something like that

No mention of a website in CCS :)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #322 on: May 08 2005, 06:21 pm »
Ruby Chan - thanks for that.

And the only website mention in CC is the Sword card episode (Double-Edged Sword)

(and an extra note: english/american version : same same thing read my one of my posts a bit back on this topic)

- and I know as well, I have the first 16 episodes on DVD, and the rest on dvd (which I recorded off tv) - so I have the full collection available to me for reference. (of the dub that is, I also have the full CCS collection aswell)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #323 on: May 09 2005, 12:28 am »
Madison (American- version Tomoyo) actually has a website with Sakura and Yukito's stuff posted?

That's very unlike her, coming from someone who would have a hidden room in the house with secret stacks of clothings and video tapes that not even Sakura knew about until coming over for the first time... I thought she'd keep Sakura- related stuff personal...

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #324 on: May 09 2005, 06:21 am »
It was a joke to get a reaction from Sakura nothing more (and a poor joke at that)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #325 on: May 09 2005, 06:23 am »
Let's laugh to make Nelvana feel better >.<
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #326 on: May 10 2005, 09:41 am »
Hmm, Madison is too preppy to own a website. What kind of stereotypes are Nelvana using? No offense to real valley girls reading this right now, but it's pretty rare to find someone like her owning a website.

And if Nelvana wanted to keep things child-friendly, they wouldn't have had that part about uploading the video clips to the site. That gives kids the idea that it's okay to upload personal stuff to the internet, when it really isn't (in the parents' opinion). Worst case of hypocrasy I've seen from them so far; they could get someone killed, punished, arrested, or all three (er... not necessarily in that order ^^;).
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #327 on: May 10 2005, 08:41 pm »
Hmm, Madison is too preppy to own a website. What kind of stereotypes are Nelvana using? No offense to real valley girls reading this right now, but it's pretty rare to find someone like her owning a website.

And if Nelvana wanted to keep things child-friendly, they wouldn't have had that part about uploading the video clips to the site. That gives kids the idea that it's okay to upload personal stuff to the internet, when it really isn't (in the parents' opinion). Worst case of hypocrasy I've seen from them so far; they could get someone killed, punished, arrested, or all three (er... not necessarily in that order ^^;).

  Yup!!I agree with that because it's not right to include that scene in Nelbaka version and very foolish.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #328 on: May 11 2005, 11:47 pm »
I think we can all agree that CC is inferior to CCS, but out of all the episodes that were dubbed, which episode do you think Nelvana dubbed the best?  I think the episode "Sakura And The Pair's Pinch" was dubbed rather well.  Surprisingly, very little was actually cut from that episode.  The only things that were cut were little snippets here and there, presumably for time length.  The basic plot of the episode was left in-tact and there were even a few comical moments Nelvana left in, which is a miracle in itself, since in most cases Nelvana usually cuts out any humor that was in CCS.  In fact, you may shoot me for this, but there was even one line in this episode that I thought was actually funnier in CC than it was in CCS.  After Kerberoes goes mental on Yue for not doing any work, we see Eriol and .co watching them from their mansion, and Nakuru makes this comment that it would be funny to see Yue doing housework.  Suppi suggests that Nakuru could help out around the mansion too, and in the original, she said that she was ok because she was cute, but in the CC version, Ruby says that she doesn't have to do any work because she's a warrior.  For some reason, I just thought that line was funnier in CC than it was in CCS.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #329 on: May 14 2005, 12:28 am »
"A warrior"? Personally, I think that's out-of-character. Ruby, like Kero, is supposed to be a really lighthearted character. I'm not saying ultra-valiance is bad, but it's just bad for certain people who are seen otherwise.

But then again, if I think of it in a different light, I guess that does kind of contribute to how funny it sounds coming from her, of all people. ^_^
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #330 on: May 14 2005, 09:02 am »
Okay...I will give Nelbaka credit for THAT....but that still doesn't make them good in my books.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #331 on: May 15 2005, 10:53 pm »
i'm a lil confused, you say that loads of episodes from CCS were cut... but i've been watching CCS and i remmember almost all the episodes so far on CC not in the right order but i still remmember them so they technicalled are not CUT (except episode 15 and 16) and at the moment i'm on episode 18 (of CCS)

and there are plenty of scenes in CCS where i preffered the CC scene, its just the voices like Yamazaki and what they say sounds so much better and well put together in CC than the CCS version (in other words i found CC more entertaining at that part than CCS)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #332 on: May 16 2005, 03:18 am »
So, like all dubs, there are some things that are better in the Cardcaptors version than the Card Captor Sakura version, right?
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #333 on: May 16 2005, 03:30 am »
yep, its just how you lot are describing it, your saying like EVERYTHING about cardcaptors is terrible when thats just a totally biased opinion.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #334 on: May 16 2005, 04:52 am »
i'm a lil confused, you say that loads of episodes from CCS were cut... but i've been watching CCS and i remmember almost all the episodes so far on CC not in the right order but i still remmember them so they technicalled are not CUT (except episode 15 and 16) and at the moment i'm on episode 18 (of CCS)

Do you live in Canada, Austuralia, or the UK, by any chance?  I live in the U.S. and over here Kid's WB skipped almost half of the show.  Nelvana went back and dubbed all the episodes that were skipped, but those episodes were only shown in other English-speaking countries.  I think that's where we're getting confused.  You must be watching the complete dub and I'm watching the American version, which skipped and combined quite a lot of episodes.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #335 on: May 16 2005, 04:58 am »
i'm UK, and i think its a pretty good DUB. so ya i guess its Americans that unfortunatly got the back end of Nelvana's stick.
so i guess.. .lucky me i get the good dub ? lol
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #336 on: May 16 2005, 05:48 am »
[is jealous]
lucky....I want a good dub.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #337 on: May 16 2005, 07:42 am »
*shakes my heads*

The dubs bad, weather you saw the episodes that KidsWB (notice that - they where the ones that choose the American viewing order not Nelvana) aired or lucky enough (if you live in the UK or Australia) to see all the episodes, the dub is bad regardless.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #338 on: May 16 2005, 11:34 am »
*shakes my heads*

The dubs bad, weather you saw the episodes that KidsWB (notice that - they where the ones that choose the American viewing order not Nelvana) aired or lucky enough (if you live in the UK or Australia) to see all the episodes, the dub is bad regardless.

well i think they are both good IMO
CCS is obviously better but i still think Cardcaptors is pretty fun to watch. Dubs always are good, again IMO
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #339 on: May 16 2005, 10:22 pm »
And if you think of CC as a parody of CCS rather than a dub (even though it isn't a parody), it makes it more fun to watch if you laugh at all the stupid changes rather than cringe at them. ^^
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