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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #380 on: May 26 2005, 02:07 am »
*cough* i think Nelvana are the type of people who are stuck inside and don't ever get out, so they no experiance at all to back anything they do up...  or maybe they are all children themselves ?
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #381 on: May 26 2005, 06:53 am »
I just remembered something that completely throws Nelvana off course.

If Nelvana thinks a little crush between Syaoran and Sakura is enough to merit a full edit of the show so that all of its romantic flair is removed in order for the show to remain appropriate to little kids in America... then tell me, have they ever, EVER watched a Disney movie before? There's romance bursting out of every single little door or window in a Disney movie.
But Disney is American, so they can get away with it.  Everyone knows that romance in Japanese cartoons is evil (sarcasm).
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #382 on: May 26 2005, 11:11 am »
Even Lions made out! @_@ Kay, I was young and I considered the licking of the lions was equivalent to kissing >_> But the point is that almost every disney movie has romance, and at least one kissing scene >_>

Maybe they just concluded the show to be bad 0.o
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #383 on: May 26 2005, 11:50 am »
Ahh! If you watch some of the other cartoons (not anime) that Nelvana has developed you think to yourself, "And HOW was CCS innapropriate?"
For example, this one show that's on Teletoon "6teen" I stumbled upon while flipping through channels. This kid (who I'm assuming is 16, considering the title) is walking around this mall (he got a job as a part-time security guard there) and some lady comes right up to him with her three kids. And I mean right up to him. He looks down, and I only noticed this because when he does they do a "waaaay to close" shot of her breasts. And he's just like, "Niiiiice." While this lady keeps ..err...stroking him (his arm and chest and such) going on about how she, "loves a man in uniform."
And I continued watching and that TV guide thingy in the corner said it was for kids 8 & up.
Now maybe I'm over-reacting but...compared to that....
How the hell was CCS innapropriate?
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #384 on: May 26 2005, 12:14 pm »
Because CCS was normal >_> [/sarcasm]

I know the show 6teen, as much as I dont liek to admit it, it's a hilarious show. *cough* Anyway, there's another show that may seem inapporpiate, it was called Braceface, and it had a gay guy and his freind matched him up with some other guy. *ponders* Yeah, that is so apporpiate, I mean, even though CCS had mild...MILD homosexualtiy that wasn't even openly detected.
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. Braceface was worse, make out scenes, all sorts of shit that makes me wanna scream at Nelvana for being biased >_>
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #385 on: May 27 2005, 02:48 pm »
Haha yeah, I find myself watching it a little more often now... But I feel like a traitor since it's something that Nelvana created.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #386 on: May 27 2005, 08:20 pm »
don't feel like a traitor.  nelvana must have actually hired some good people to create something even a CCS fan will watch.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #387 on: May 28 2005, 12:29 am »
I've found out that the cartoon that I'm loving (The Fairly Odd parents) was from Nelvana.. *cries* lol... but i'm still disappointed about Cardcaptors.. XDD

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #388 on: May 28 2005, 12:38 am »
There are some issues they pointed out that may not be appropriate in a children audience.

Big culprit I think are the Touya/Yukito stuff.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #389 on: May 28 2005, 12:56 am »
but it doesn't look so so bad.. I mean, it's just a teeny bit shounen-ai that children are unaware of.. o_o;

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #390 on: May 28 2005, 12:58 am »
Yeah! I was 12 when I was first watching CCS and I didn't even notice it!
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« Reply #391 on: May 28 2005, 01:10 am »
Well some points tell differently. When I first watched it, I can see it a mile away.

Well, there are other factors but I forgot.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #392 on: May 28 2005, 01:28 am »
I was *counts*  11 when I saw CCS.. T_T" no shounen-ai was forming in my head.. until I searched information at the internet.. XDD

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #393 on: May 28 2005, 06:35 am »
but it doesn't look so so bad.. I mean, it's just a teeny bit shounen-ai that children are unaware of.. o_o;
You'd be surprised as to how much kids actually know.  I was at my grandma's this past weekend and my little cousin knows what homosexuality is even though he's only 10 and it doesn't affect him at all. o.O
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #394 on: May 28 2005, 06:48 am »
***but it doesn't look so so bad.. I mean, it's just a teeny bit shounen-ai that children are unaware of.. o_o;***

And even if they were aware of it, that's a GOOD thing!!
It helps kids to grow up Non-judgemental.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #395 on: May 28 2005, 09:18 am »
I totally agree, I watched CCS around when I was 10-12, forgot, anywho, I didn't mind the homosexuality, I mean, I didn't even notice it until my friend pointed it out and was like: "Yup, those are gays" and I was like "o.0, I thought they were just really...really good friends" and yeah, when it came down to it, I didn't mind at all, I found it nice, I mean, it is innocent, its not like the openly showed it either, they just cared about each other, what so wrong about that. If one thing Nelvana is wrong about its relationship, they quickly judge things about shows that don't even have anything remotely offensive. The care about each other, So WHAT! Just because there males, doesn't mean they can't have a good relationship. I find Yukito/Touya stuff much better than the affairs and betrayl stuff going around in other cartoons.

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Just not to make the pervious comment, tooo off-topic, I read an article stating that Farily Odd Parents and Spongebob Squarepants are hinting at homosexuality. I mean, GOD, A sponge, GAY!  And they considered CCS bad, puh-lezze. >_>
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #396 on: May 29 2005, 12:24 am »
Just not to make the pervious comment, tooo off-topic, I read an article stating that Farily Odd Parents and Spongebob Squarepants are hinting at homosexuality. I mean, GOD, A sponge, GAY! And they considered CCS bad, puh-lezze. >_>

i knew spongebob was gay.  ever since that scallop episode when he and patrick  took care of the baby scallop.  watch the ep,  it's just wrong compared to touya's and yukito's love.  Nelvana probably just hates us.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #397 on: May 31 2005, 12:32 pm »
Time could be still another important factor. Remember, it was 1999. Either that, or Nelvana's just a huge group of bigots completely against the Japanese.

And Fisah, I don't believe adding off-topic comments is against forum rules. Also, this is a family forum. I spotted a swear word that my ten-year-old eyes weren't supposed to see.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #398 on: May 31 2005, 08:57 pm »
Time could be still another important factor. Remember, it was 1999. Either that, or Nelvana's just a huge group of bigots completely against the Japanese.

yeah, time could be a factor, but sooner or later nelvana will hate us since i'm sure at least a few of us have sent them hate mail and have bothered them.  i hate people who bother me an send me hate mail.  besides, anyone ever seen Soap?  it's a very old sitcom.  made before my 14 years of life, and it has a gay guy in it who tried to kill himself because his boyfriend fell in love with a girl.  if they can show Soap on tv before 1999 what's wrong with an innocent anime?

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #399 on: May 31 2005, 09:37 pm »
A lot of people have the misconception that anime is a cartoon version of pervyness. To keep stressed out mothers happy, Nelvana had to cut a lot of scenes, anything that could indicate:

Crushes on older people
Crushes on younger people
Homosexuality
Serious injury

As for S and S...I believe I've already said that there was a lot more it in the version released in Australia/England, so that solves that problem.

By the way, why exactly did America get fewer episodes than England/Australia?


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