The heresy that is Cardcaptors.

[DarkWolfYoukai]

i haven't thought of cardcaptors in a while.  the sad thing is, i might either still be one of those cardcaptors fans or not like the show anymore if i hadn't bought the first movie and watched it in both english and japanese.  i've only heard the worst things about this dub.  because of cardcaptors, i'm now against any dub.  the worst thing is, i pronounce kero like they did.    evil english influence! 

anyway, CCS is part of the anime considered kiddie like pokemon, yugioh, etc. because of Nelvana.  i was on the adult swim boards once (in the action suggestion board), and someone suggested cardcaptors.     i clicked the topic just to see what it said.  a lot of the people said something along the line of "no way, that's a kiddie show."  i defended ccs, but i don't remember if i actually posted the defense.  anyway, just an example of Nelvana's stupidity.

now i'm in the mood for destrying something. coughNelvanacough  i would if i had the money for dangerous items.

[Espo]

There is a long line of people wanting to kill Nelvana. Mostly CCS fans.

[DarkWolfYoukai]

i know.  at least our hatred of them is justified though.

[Little Wolf]

CCS? just a kiddie show?

well, we know better that it isn't just any kiddie show...

[Li_shaoran]

There is a long line of people wanting to kill Nelvana. Mostly CCS fans.

Ummmmm you mean we werent supposed to kill them yet?

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lol

[DarkWolfYoukai]

Ummmmm you mean we werent supposed to kill them yet?

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lol

not yet, but soon.  when they least expect it. (don't mind me, my friends say i'm insane)

[Lexi]

You have a point there. But then it can also be a bad thing because some people would think...."so this c*** is CCS?" Many would assume that the Japanese original is the same and they wouldn't have known that it wasn't at all the same as the original. They might have already learned to hate it and chose to completely ignore anything Cardcaptor which means they won't be interested in CCS anymore. Well, unless they researched about it on the Internet then they would have known the truth...

Yes, it would depend on how much the North American audience liked CC at first. I believe many ppl that watched it said that it was not bad and may have even become fans of it. (And I'm not saying everyone became a fan of Cardcaptors). Eventually, perhaps by internet or friends, some CC fans discovered that Cardcaptors was actually an evil version of Cardcaptor Sakura, and instead became fans of CCS. (This is what happened to most of my friends and classmates when I told them about how bad CC actually was.)

So that's why I said that there are two main sides to Nelvana bringing CCS to North America. One is that it never should've been done and the other is that through Cardcaptors, CC fans ultimately discovered the much better and original CCS we all know and love

[Fai D. Flowright]

I knew about CCS before CC.....then I witnessed it and I'm like....yuck ; CC is so bad and every good thing about CCS was taken out >_<; Bad dubbers of CC, bad! Well, now they've released dvds for both CC and CCS so we don't have to worry about watching the dub anymore.

[Ralea]

but you still have to buy them. >.<

[Espo]

So that's why I said that there are two main sides to Nelvana bringing CCS to North America. One is that it never should've been done and the other is that through Cardcaptors, CC fans ultimately discovered the much better and original CCS we all know and love

I totally agree with your point.. if Nelvana hadn't done it, we would never have found out about CCS. But if they had done it properly in the first place, it would have been better, ne?

[Lexi]

I totally agree with your point.. if Nelvana hadn't done it, we would never have found out about CCS. But if they had done it properly in the first place, it would have been better, ne?

Oh, of course! But c'mon, most of Nelvana's shows are bad... Even the French version of CCS, "Sakura, Chasseuse de Cartes" was much better than CC

[DarkWolfYoukai]

Oh, of course! But c'mon, most of Nelvana's shows are bad... Even the French version of CCS, "Sakura, Chasseuse de Cartes" was much better than CC

*gets out french dictionary*  hmmm...Sakura (something along the line of) Hunts the Cards?  don't like the title, but maybe i should check it out.  just for the sake of comparing.  (curiousity killed the cat.  someday, i'll inevitably be that cat)

[Lexi]

*gets out french dictionary* hmmm...Sakura (something along the line of) Hunts the Cards? don't like the title, but maybe i should check it out. just for the sake of comparing. (curiousity killed the cat. someday, i'll inevitably be that cat)

Hunts the Cards...    I think it's more along the lines of  "Sakura, Capturer of Cards".  This is the most correct way to say it because in French you can't exactly say "Cardcaptor"; you can basically just say "Capturer of cards".  At least they didn't change the name to another "Cardcaptors".  (Don't worry I'm not making this up. I have had 7 years of experience in French )

[Li_shaoran]

but you still have to buy them. >.<

oh really?

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[Ralea]

Instead of spending money on your electric bills and cable, you also have to pay for the electricity  for the DVD player, and the DVD;s themselves. Now, if only Nelvana dubbed sensibly. One more unforgivable thing was the music. I find it dull. Why did they replace those music for, it was fine enough as it is?

[scarecrow_wingz]

they have made efforts to correct their mistake (kinda) the old version of CCS manga was...americanised... they've brought out an unedited version of the manga so...

[DarkWolfYoukai]

they have made efforts to correct their mistake (kinda) the old version of CCS manga was...americanised... they've brought out an unedited version of the manga so...

such small effort isn't enough.  though i might be saying that because my dvd collection of CCS is almost complete, and i have no plans of buying the manga in the future.  to other fans, the effort might be acceptable though.

[Arcademan]

Like a few others, I first watched Cardcaptors, not realizing there was the Japanese version. After watching a few of the episodes, I said to myself "I like the concept of the series however it just doesn't seem to mesh out storywise." Then I found the first DVD of Cardcaptor Sakura. After watching that I was hooked on the seires FOR LIFE!!! I got the remaining episodes and movies and never looked back...until now.

I could go forever on how Nelvana butchered the series but I'd only be repeating comments already made in this thread. Probably the only GOOD thing about Cardcaptors is...if it wasn't for me watching it, I most likely would've never found Cardcaptor Sakura and be the big fan that I am today. 

[Cardcaptor Takato]

I can't stand CC!  To this date, it continues to remain number one on my list of top five worst dubs!  I hated the dub music, the English VAs were horrible, the storyline made zero sense, I hated the character personality changes, and I hated how they cut out everything that was cute, funny, or romantic (no matter how "innocent" it was, too!)!  And since I live in the U.S., I only got to see less than half of the show!  Luckily, I started watching CCS and have become an avid fan of the original Japanese version as well as of CLAMP in general, and I haven't turned back to CC ever since!  However, I do owe CC some credit.  It did introduce me to Cardcaptors Uncensored where I met tons of wonderful friends at the message board, discovered CCS through them, and if it wasn't for CC or CCU, I might never would've found this site!  So, as much as I hate it, I do owe a lot to CC despite it being the worst dub ever.  CCS still kicks CC's butt, though!

[Ruby Chan]

The english version of Cardcaptors wasn't that bad - unlike the american, it kept all the original Japanese episodes, and just dubbed them into English.