AuthorTopic: Tsubasa Chronicle is getting from bad to worse...or is it just me?  (Read 22018 times)

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To minimuze the injuries from beatings by all you obsessed fans :hehe: I'll first say that I am a MAD fan of Card Captor Sakura (Tomoyo FOREVER :D), and was thus attractted to Tsubasa Chonicle upon hearing rumours of a sequel. But well...perhaps it is just me but I didn't really find it catch my fancy...

Primary reason was that it became annoyingly obvious how they were writing just to attract viewers. For them, CCS sold, hence the reusing of characters that looked EXACTLY the same, with EXACTLY the same personalities. Also the awfully contrived trailers to the next episode by Mokona...urrgh...

Second reason is the storyline-it's just unrealistically "feelgood"-not that being "feelgood" was bad (CCS IMO was tastefully feelgood), but well like...Sakura can simle and convert a bad guy of many years!? That's just a bit...unrealistic, no?

What do you all think? Is it just me? Or alternatively, do share with me the reasons why you all like the anime so much!
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When Ozamu Tezuka recycles most of his characters for the later series with most having a minor character change, did people complain? I think not.

CLAMP still has a bit more way to go when it comes to perfect porting old characters on new series, but I think they're getting there.

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it was really bad in the beginning in my point of view.. but it's not getting worse.. it's getting better and better.. THANKFULLY!!

i still don't like a few things but it's getting better and better right now..
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It's not as good as the manga, I can say that. But thankfully the anime is gradually, but slowly getting better. Mostly because of its support by it's art quality and music.

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At least you got a good reason, not some random "this sucks!" remark the the one I read from another forum.

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tsubasa doesn't suck.. ok it's not as good as the manga but so.. most anime aren't as good as the manga.. DUH!! they have to rush more things in the anime..

some people just watch ONE episode of an anime and say they don't like it. the beginning will be bad most of the time but then it gets better and better by the episode. just like tsubasa and other anime.

you can't fall in love with a new anime by the first episode right away. unless it was a second season or you saw something about it before.

ok harry kinomoto.. i understand the sakura smiling and making the bad guy good part.. but that CAN happen. i mean like if you nice to someone who's bad.. you might change their heart.. if basically depends on how you would see it. but then again who says that anime is realistic. i mean like if you expect everything in any anime to be realistic.. then you're living in a fantasy world.. take CCS. you expect there to really be clow cards in this world somewhere??
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I thin you're being a bit harsh on poor TRC here...it's not as good as the manga, but like someone said b4, most anime aren't because they don't have enough time to give the storylines.

The characters are based around the same mould because they've been chosen as fan's favourite CLAMP characters - if you saw Sakura and Syaoran in another manga, wouldn't you be furious if their design had been changed, and Sakura was rude, and Syaoran was a coward or something? And they don't look exactly the same, just very similar, so fans can recognise them.

So far, the story is focusing on the power of Sakura's heart, because anyone who hasn't seen CCS won't be very attached to her yet. Syaoran's had a lot of screentime, so the viewers will like him...but they need soemthing to make Sakura popular with the fans.

I thikn this anime has a lot of promise, and I can't wait for it to continue!


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I think the grouse I had with the recycling of characters is how I felt (perhaps albeit unreasonably) that it implies them lazy to think of a new character. I mean, if they successfully created a character that has nothing at all in common with Syaoran except say his strength of heart, and entirely new character could have been created. It shows they are trying to be more creative, and hopefully be able to give fans a refreshing new character that has equal or even more appeal than our dear old Little Wolf.

And yes...the thing on realism. Granted no form of magic can appear in this world, but what I found impressive in CCS was that they managed to integrate the whole idea into a scene, with all its typical schooldays and teasings, that seemed just human. That "smile" incident, however, was just a bit too sudden-even too fairytale for me...

I hope I have made sense. I think I'm thinking too much (what an oxymoron :sweatdrop:), following too odd a code, but anyways~I'm willing to give TRC another few chances! Indeed the music-especially the background choral music-deserves much praise. As I typed the previous post I had already watched the first 4 episodes, so I'm off to download the 5th. Thanks for the comments all, and do keep them coming!
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I agree with you yet I disagree with you.  What I mean is that TRC is completely different from CCS.  We really shouldn't compare them since all that is really the same in it is the reusing of characters.  Which isn't bad since its what attracted a lot of us to TRC first of all.

Sakura converting a bad guy of many years is very possible.  Sakura is pretty much useless right now but she soon gets better since she doesn't have a lot of her memories back.  The manga of course is waaaaay better than the anime but the anime is loved by many due to the help of the improved art and the music.

The bad guy converting into a nice guy is a nice touch, although I see no point in it for the storyline.  Still, it just shows that a person can change if they meet a significant person who has the ability to do that to them.  In this case, Sakura.  A person can have a change of heart right?  Even if it does seem so sudden and unreal it can happen.

Even a person that's good can convert to bad in a matter of time.  Example:  Star Wars Anakin Skywalker turns into a bad guy and the etc etc.  The way you live your life is chosen by you, if you wanna be good then so be it.  If you wanna be bad, then go on.  Nobody is stopping you.  The rroad of life works in mysterious ways...lol

At first, I started critisizing the anime for every minor thing because I figured the anime should be completely near perfect.  I was proven wrong of course.  But now its gradually getting better now that I haven't been whining about every small wrong detail.  We all just had high expectations of the anime and judged it from the first episode and so on.

We all need to let the anime just go on as it is.  Were not the creators, just fans who love TRC but we have no right to tell the makers how to do this and how to do that.  Hmm...this got pretty long.  XD  Anyway, the manga is still  way better than the anime but the anime is coming along nicely if they keep it up the way it is.

We all expected that it would be different from the manga so there you go.  Its different.   :heh:
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Well, it's really that manga is better than anime, but somehow, anime has some good things ^___^ And I really enjoy both, now, let us believe in future ( hey, it's familiar , lol, ^_______^)
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The manga is fabolous in my opinion. The anime, I saw one episode and was bored. I saw episode 5, and I could just tell it was lazily done. They didn't have the huge crowd when Primera showed up, and Fai's flying kudan scene wasn't as cool as I hoped. And the character design on some people is terrible. They totally screwed up Yuko, and Fai isn't that great. I think Toya looks fantastic, and Primera looks really cute. Mokona I thought was perfect. I like the themesong scenes as well, but it really wasn't that great. *shrugs*
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Re: Tsubasa Chronicle is getting from bad to worse
« Reply #11 on: June 05 2005, 05:59 pm »
I think it just the begining of the anime , where they have to put in some scenes to give you an insight of the charcter though from the anime or manga you have seen before they might have change a little of their personality, background or character. It may be annoying or furious for clamp fan seeing changes in their favourite character. I have oni seen cardcaptor sakura of clamp work so it seems ok to me.

But I think it is going to ba a little draggy, not like in CCS each episode have some sort of ending like caught a card.... TRC hm.. they met new ppl introduce, meet baddies ........   I think it got to be a supper long anime.

We can't judge it now as there may be some "peaks" or changes in the anime as it goes on.

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well the manga is way better than the anime...
but den the anime is now improving.... getting better n better... but still soemtimes the character r drawn abit weird n sometimes i dun get y some things happen...

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Anything they do depend on their ability to improve it... If their lazy,.. of course getting more worse... :sweatdrop:
Anime more better because they scan from manga into computer and animate it...
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Just a thought....are you complaining about the manga/anime/both?

Mnaga is way better than the anime, because it has so much that was cut out of the anime. But although the anime has been badmouthed, I think it's pretty good. It just needs a bit of time to achieve the depth that the manga has.

I was surprised when people said they were attracted to it because they'd heard it was a sequel....in all my surfing time, I never saw anywhere that this anime/manga was being advertised as a CCS sequel. Everywhere I looked said it was putting the characters in a diff plot and setting.

I love this CLAMP creation, because it gives me a chance to get to know some more characters from CLAMP work, see my fav characters again, and discover new ones, like Fai and Kurogane. This manga/anime has a lot of promise, in my opinion.

There. Done with my rant now.


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Re: Tsubasa Chronicle is getting from bad to worse
« Reply #15 on: June 05 2005, 09:28 pm »
Just a thought....are you complaining about the manga/anime/both?

Mnaga is way better than the anime, because it has so much that was cut out of the anime. But although the anime has been badmouthed, I think it's pretty good. It just needs a bit of time to achieve the depth that the manga has.

I was surprised when people said they were attracted to it because they'd heard it was a sequel....in all my surfing time, I never saw anywhere that this anime/manga was being advertised as a CCS sequel. Everywhere I looked said it was putting the characters in a diff plot and setting.

I love this CLAMP creation, because it gives me a chance to get to know some more characters from CLAMP work, see my fav characters again, and discover new ones, like Fai and Kurogane. This manga/anime has a lot of promise, in my opinion.

There. Done with my rant now.
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I think its just opinions... I agree with many, the manga is a lot better than the anime. But I guess it's sort of like the Harry Potter movies, if you haven't read the books, then you would think that the movies were awsome. So the same goes for the Tsubasa Chronicle. If you haven't read the manga before, you would think that the anime is great  :sweatdrop:

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I think we need to know how long it will go for. Those bad guys really arn't doing anything! They really need to be more proactive. It's slower paced than those monster of the week animes.  :heh:

Love it.... but the anime is using a lot of Japanese anime cliches simply because it's "cool" or has worked before.
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Yeah, I noticed that too.  Kinda annoying but I'll live.  xD  I don't think the series will even end at episode 26 even if they say so.  Most likely there will be OVA's and movies to finish it off or something like the TRC movie coming soon.  ^^;

Yep, I agree with the HP thing.  I was thinking that too since the original is always better but the movies are okay once you get used to it.
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Re: Tsubasa Chronicle is getting from bad to worse
« Reply #19 on: June 12 2005, 12:09 am »
come on ppl TRC aint dat bad, im a fan of CCS and the character recycling isnt dat great, most of the characters lost their glamer and shine that we know and love from CCS when TRC was brought about, maybe dats y some people think the TRC is not that good and all...