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Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« on: June 28 2005, 03:17 pm »
I thought maybe it would be good to have a new thread where we can discuss the plot and characters of Fruits Basket more in depth and without having to use the hidden spoiler tags every time.
I say spoilers are okay here as long as we specify about what book they are from before posting them.

So, saying that, there are big spoilers for book 10 in this post!!

I just finished Book 10 and A LOT has happened with the characters and relationships.
Has anyone else read through book 10 or all you all even farther than that?

Shigure was up to alot in this book and I'm really getting curious as to what he's up to.
I can see him pairing people up, such as Mayu (the female teacher) and Hatori.
I figured that somehow she knew all about them by the way she acted towards the Souma guys in her class.
He's also pushing Kyo and Yuki towards Tohru, but I don't think he's doing it to bring them closer to her so much as to bring them closer to each other.

Remember early in the series when Shigure has a conversation with Kyo?
Kyo says he hates Yuki and he likes hating him.
Shigure says that Kyo's eyes say otherwise, and that Kyo is afraid to stop hating Yuki because of what he will find out. Kyo gets angry and runs out.

We also find out more about Shi-san and Hatori's past in this book, and Yuki finally tells Tohru that he loves her.
And what does everyone think about Kureno (the rooster guy)?
He's hardly allowed to ever even leave!

Has anyone read farther ahead in this?
Can anyone tell me when they tell that Akito is a woman?
Which chapter is that in?

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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #1 on: June 28 2005, 06:14 pm »
i´ve just buyed book 10 so i don´t know more then u ^-^

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« Reply #2 on: August 03 2005, 12:25 pm »
I only have the first book..I want more! I'm just to broke to buy any more manga ^^;

I just found out that Akito was a woman..I was surprised...


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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #3 on: August 03 2005, 08:08 pm »
In volume 17, you'll find out that Akito is actually a woman :keke: chapter 97 i think or was that 98? :sweatdrop:

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...and Yuki finally tells Tohru that he loves her.
Hmm... true Yuki loves her... but not in a romantic way
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« Reply #4 on: August 04 2005, 06:55 am »
hm...I read up to 15 and a little bit of 16...I was kinda suprised when kyou said that he met kyoko before...@.@

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« Reply #5 on: August 04 2005, 09:51 pm »
yahp he met Kyoko before :D but the thing is... I don't get why Kyo in volume 4 said sorry to Tohru and why he is feeling guilty about Kyoko... :confused:
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« Reply #6 on: August 05 2005, 03:12 am »
I think I know...but then again my theory might be wrong @.@

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« Reply #7 on: August 05 2005, 10:50 pm »
But it might be a possibility :D
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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #8 on: August 16 2005, 09:31 am »
LOL, I'm farther than book 10 *sheepish*  as for most of the questions. I'll put them in spoilers:

Is Yuki really in love with Tohru?

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At first, all the evidence did point to this, however, we're not so sure anymore. Yuki does indeed love Tohru, but more like a mother. In fact, Tohru and Kyou were rather akward with each other after a situation, involving a blanket and huggling, and they kept blushing around each other, Yuki felt uncomfortable and left, saying, he felt as though he walked in on 'his mother having a new lover'. I dont know what to think of this comment, does Yuki indeed love Tohru other than a mother figure? Its unlikely though, the prospect of Yuki x Tohru has always appealed to me, however, I believe Tohru x Kyou is more..best fitted. Yuki always needed love...not the love of his fangirls, or the admiration, but a love of a mother. If anyone has noticed, Tohru acts very motherly towards Yuki, she gives him advice, always checks if he's fine, and compliments him. I think Yuki loves Tohru, as if she was his mother, because in his life, he never had the type of love, or that mother figure. Just my two cents on the topic ^^; Also, Kyou already said he loves Tohru...however, only to himself. Yuki is also spending time with a girl named Machi..she is strange, and Yuki often comforts her, in one chapter, it looked like they were about to kiss, but Machi's phone rang, go figure.

Oh and, I support both Yuki x Tohru and Kyo x Tohru, but I'm just giving some insight :lol:

Is Shigure up to something? *MAJOR SPOILER*

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Okay, Shigure use to be one of my fav characters, however, he isn't all that's he's cracked up to be.

Remember, he has the spirit of the dog, who is carefree, fun loving, and usually optimistic. But dogs aren't exactly perfect are they? They become rabid, and angry...stray if you will. I think Shigure fits this role amazingly, its really a suprise people haven't caught on so early in the series.

First of all, Shigure is indeed up to something. And that is trying to break the curse. The idea itself isn't bad, but his methods, are horrible. He's risking Tohru's fate so they could be closer...and it seems he views Kyou and Tohru just like Akito does, filthy, horrible, and only good for others. He didn't exactly say this, but his actions, and the talk he had with Tohru, concerning Kyou, was rather disgusting.

Now, for the real shocker. Akito is actually a girl *gasp*, and is more disgusting as ever. Her and Shigure have a relationship, and in one chapter *forgot the number exactly, but around the 100's* they have/about to have sex. I couldn't belive either, I always knew Shigure was the closest to Akito, but WOW. Anywho, I dont quite recall how they had 'it', but I do know she *it seems odd saying that* kissed him first, and Akito calls the 12 shi, as her 'things'. She's really disgusting isn't she?

 Who does Tohru love?

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Okay, it always seemed she loved Yuki *at least to me* however, it seems like she does love Kyo. The play incidents, and the entire blanket scenario just confirmed this. Also, she keeps feeling regret when she feels more for Kyou then her mother. She often questions herself, since she always promised she would keep her mother formost in her heart, but there's no denying she really cares about Kyou, and has feelings for him Also, Momiji *who seems much OLDER now* says, that he wanted to propose to Tohru, and Kyou notices, that he was indeed obvious with his feelings. They also act much more couple like, he aks her 'out' and she spends more time with him. I guess her and Yuki are slowly dfriting apart. *sniff* I want them to still be friends though.

Anway, if anyone has any more questions, and are willing to be spoiled silly just ask  :haha:
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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #9 on: August 16 2005, 12:46 pm »
HOLY MOLY! Those spoilers were awesome! :XD:
I'm not as far in the manga as you guys are. I haven't been reading as much of the manga as I would like to.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17 2005, 10:10 am »
Spoiler---yeah but if you further on in the story yuki actually says taht he loves tohru like a mother and besides he will like someone else.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17 2005, 10:48 am »
yup! Its true! I heard he ends up with Machi (I think thats the name...o.o")

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« Reply #12 on: August 17 2005, 10:35 pm »
Yahp that's her name :D although to some people they say that she's just a replacement of Tohru or something like that.

About the Akito part:
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I think she's just misunderstood. I mean her mother, Ren, sorta abandoned her ne? And I think Akito's a daddy's girl (they say his name is Akira?)

Yuki and Tohru are still friends but it seems that they don't have much inter-action so far
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« Reply #13 on: August 18 2005, 04:39 am »
wow really? thats interesting O_o lol

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« Reply #14 on: August 27 2005, 05:29 pm »
Hey! Fisah-chan! Thanks a bunch for the spiolers! They were great! Yup, I always knew Akito was sick both mentally and physically, but WOW!!! I never thought she could be THAT terrible yuck!

About Shigure, I'd really hate to admit this, but, Shigure was, is and always be one of my favorite Fruits Basket characters, no matter what you say about him, even though I know they're true. However, like all the other characters, I like him better in the anime, he doesn't look as creepy (actually, to me, everyone except Tohru, Hana, Uo looks kinda creepy in the manga -_-') and he's definetly not nearly as suspicious.
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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #15 on: August 27 2005, 06:16 pm »
True, Akito will always be a sick...person >_>

Shigure is one of my favourite characters as well, he was especially awesome in the anime though, the manga art sorta degrades the entire feel to everything :XD: However, I was always suspicious of him, espcially how he was
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the closest to Akito :0
. Sorry for the bad news though, trust me, I was dissapointed, and maybe even angry as well. I still love Shigure, even if he is different from now on :lol:

No problem, glad to help with the spoilers ^___^
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« Reply #16 on: September 04 2005, 06:59 pm »
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they look pretty ne~?
You Are Warned~!!  :D cover of chapter 115
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« Reply #17 on: September 04 2005, 07:39 pm »
Yeah, but what you say about Shigure.....you forgot one thing.....in volume 2, he said to himself when Yuki and Kyo didn't go to the banquet.....

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'For now.....Akito, you're pathetic.'

So I don't think that Shii-chan can be THAT bad......whilst his methods may be undesirable at times, I think that he does have a good heart, even if he has let himself stray a little through his desperation to break the curse. Plus, Hatori (and Aya too, even if he is a little weird) are good, firmly-on-the-side-of-right people, and since Shigure grew up with them, and was so close....I think that there's hope for him yet.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway.
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Re: Fruits Basket Manga Discussion *SPOILERS*
« Reply #18 on: September 05 2005, 01:10 am »
I dont think Shigure is evil at all, on the contrary, I think he's getting close to Akito, to protect himself, especially since Akito does odd things to people who 'disobey', so maybe he's protecting himself, and everything is just one big scam? Though, I think
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he does have some feelings for Akito...if you kiss her that is....
Shigure is a good person, who has good intentions, but bad methods in getting what he needs/wants.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07 2005, 06:25 pm »
Major Spoilers~! Don't read if you hate them! :keke:
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chapter 115: It seems that Momiji's curse is broken by the end of the chapter and we get to see how Akira looks like
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