Topic: Other people's misconceptions about anime/manga (Read 15950 times)

Shinigami Zero · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09 2005, 02:58 pm »

Quote from: Pikari on July 09 2005, 11:42 am

One thing that annoys me most is people lumping all anime into the same genre. "All anime is kiddie stuff/hentai/giant robots/etc."

Heh, I wish.

Alexiel · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10 2005, 12:52 am »

you know what? I think people just don't understand why others like animes. so they ASSUME many things... like me assuming they're idiots who know absolutely nothing of what's good...

well, that's just me. ^^;

Robin Sena · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10 2005, 01:38 am »

The difference is the culture people are under to.

The impact of cartoons in the US in 1930-1980 has a big imapct in terms of preference.

In Japan however, anime in general caters to all ages, each has it's own in an age group (that's the reason Hentai Anime genre is made in the first place, I tell people that fact and they stop)

Alexiel · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10 2005, 01:49 am »

really? well, the different cultures i can understand but ppl usually just say how ridiculous it is regardless of that fact unless thats just my ego again... oh dear. o.o"

fisah · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10 2005, 01:51 am »

The real problem is the fact that people mistake dubs for the real thing. Its not the same. Dubs may seem childish, may sound like the chracters have no personality, and yes, all the editing might make the plot suck, but its a completely different case for the originals.

I had a friend, who only watched Pokemon, and after watching a few episodes, she said it wasn't all that, and anime isn't such a big deal. I laughed at her. She didn't know what she was talking about. I mean, sure, Pokemon isn't the best anime in the world, but the original is pretty good, and making such assumptions, about all anime is downright ignorant. Pokemon was such a big thing in North America and Europe because it had 'money' all over it. With the cards, and the merchandise, of course american's are going to love it.

Not all anime is like that. And I can't stand it when poeple think DBZ and Pokemon is the only anime around. No offense, but animes like that,. which take forever to end, aren't the best anime. I was fan myself, but I lost interest fast. Either way, people making judgements like these, because they dont understand.

My mom's friends think I'm odd, because I watch cartoons. Trust me, I never had this much fun with cartoons, like Bugs Bunny.

You know the comment about people labeling anime? In this dictionary, it said that anime is cartoons made in japan, which are excessive in areas of sex, bad language and viloence. I'm serious! I laughed out loud! Sure, there is hentai, but they dont have it in all anime! *groans*

Anime is animation that talks about real life problems, have amazing plotlines and beatiful pictures. Anime is an art. That's why the industry is very big. So dont go comparing anime with the everyday cartoon

Robin Sena · « **Reply #25 on:** July 10 2005, 01:56 am »

fisah - A big example of that? Yu-Gi-Oh.

The term "Heart of the Cards" didn't exist in the non-dubbed anime.

I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't release the manga. (really good but pretty violent)

LemonPing · « **Reply #26 on:** July 10 2005, 02:03 am »

"huh? u watch anime? isnt that hentai?"...
i laughed!
or
"so big already... still watch cartoons"

Alexiel · « **Reply #27 on:** July 10 2005, 02:06 am »

i would NEVER EVER compare something like western cartoons with Anime. NEVER!!!! that is (to me) a DOWNRIGHT INSULT. as i am a dedicated anime fan, i have been for a long time, probably before i should've even understood it but i started watching it. and you know what i started anime off with? Neon Genesis Evangelion, one of the gorey but one of teh absolutely best animes made into production back then. and i saw this when i was 7-8 years old.

to top off my being angry (not that serious but a saying) at those who dont truly understand what anime is, when Americans make teh dubbed versions, they completely ruin the original meaning, and I've seen what people have said about Cardcaptor Sakura in dubbed form. They claim that it was heavily editted from teh original and cut out teh parts that actually made it worth watching.

It's the same for any other anime series that have been dubbed.

Like my first anime, Evangelion. When i got the chance to see the english version, i was utterly infuriated because of the voice actors. And ADV films interviewed the main character asking for their opinion of who they played as. And do you know what they say? "Absolutely stupid." I practically wanted to scream but then again, i didnt want to make a big deal out of it.

but that's what gets me really upset. People just dont see animes are quite different from cartoons. You just cant compare them.

Robin Sena · « **Reply #28 on:** July 10 2005, 02:09 am »

The problem is, they will and they will for a long time.

It will take decades to remove the "cartoon stigma" of anime in the US.

bLuetopaz · « **Reply #29 on:** July 10 2005, 02:16 am »

if you link western cartoons to animes.. its like animes which are dubbed from japanese to english or any other language.. and there will be bits and pieces removes from the original anime plus very weird and funny names..

Alexiel · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10 2005, 02:18 am »

some things shall never change. maybe this is a fact for anime. its sad... ive neglected watching something like the channel 11 morning shows. it really disturbs me to listen to english voice actors trying to be like the japanese ones. The japanese voice actors actually put effort into it. english ones could care less (in my opinion.)

Robin Sena · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10 2005, 02:22 am »

Angelic-Essence - It is slowly changing now that VA's do better these days. There are ways more to improve but they're getting there.

Mina · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10 2005, 03:33 am »

Quote from: bLuetopaz on July 10 2005, 02:16 am

if you link western cartoons to animes.. its like animes which are dubbed from japanese to english or any other language.. and there will be bits and pieces removes from the original anime plus very weird and funny names..

Ugh, I absolutely hate name changes. I saw the dubbed version of Detective Conan, and boy did it make me mad. Not only did they changed the names in the anime, but they did the same to the manga! Viz was going to use the original names but nooo, TMS Entertainment (or whatever they are called) apperantly pushed Viz into using anime names, from what I heard. And then there is the dub voices... urgh. I agree, most of the English dubs don't put any feelings into the voices, like the Japanese ones do.

fisah · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10 2005, 06:35 am »

Its not the names I mind so much though. But some animes its a big deal. LIke CCS, the names of the Kinomoto family had first names of flowers, and it had that hidden grace, and when it was dubbed, the names changed. But its not the voices or the names that bug me the most though, Its more of the plot. Like GS, the Va's are okay, the names are kept in, and the plot is intact. That is probably the best dub in history! Except the minor editing, in the USA *canada had all the scenes, completely uneditied* the dub is really good. However, something like CC, where the plot was cut up and destroyed, that's when the problems occur. Of all things to change, dont let it be the plot

Okamirei · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10 2005, 06:47 am »

Quote from: Mina on July 10 2005, 03:33 am

Ugh, I absolutely hate name changes. I saw the dubbed version of Detective Conan, and boy did it make me mad. Not only did they changed the names in the anime, but they did the same to the manga! Viz was going to use the original names but nooo, TMS Entertainment (or whatever they are called) apperantly pushed Viz into using anime names, from what I heard. And then there is the dub voices... urgh. I agree, most of the English dubs don't put any feelings into the voices, like the Japanese ones do.

I agree

I was so mad when I saw what they changed their names into. Poor Shinichi...

Syaokura · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10 2005, 08:28 am »

Hm... there were two misconceptions about anime. These include:

- Anime is porn
- All anime is Pokemon, Sailor Moon, DBZ, you name it.

One time I was looking up a CCS website, and one of my non-anime friends peeked. She said, "What are you doing??"

Me: Just surfing the net. =/
Friend #1: *to another friend* She must be looking for those Pokemon stuff. Or Digimon, or whatever they are.

fisah · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10 2005, 10:50 am »

LMAO, so true XD Many occursences like that are alot

Once, some idiot gave me a pokemon poster since I was an "obvious fan", the hell? Yeah, since I like anime it means I like pokemon!

I like Digimon though, good anime

*ahem*

Narrow-minded fools make me laugh....and question the world

Sakaki · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10 2005, 11:39 am »

*** would NEVER EVER compare something like western cartoons with Anime. NEVER!!!! that is (to me) a DOWNRIGHT INSULT.***

Cookie for you for your wonderful rant!
I couldn't agree more.
I went to Best Buy the other day and the Anime DVD's were by American Cartoons!!
Ugh and gag!

That's an insult to Anime and an insult to the seiyuu that work so hard to do what they do. After watching only Anime and no cartoons for about a year now,
I cannot believe how bad American voice actors are. The voices on American cartoons are so bland with no emotion, with none of the little sounds and expressions you hear in Anime.
There is a huge difference between Anime and cartoons. They are absolutely nothing alike.

fisah · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10 2005, 11:45 am »

True, cookie for you for your lovely rant as well XD

In anime, everything is taken to account, from the music, to the bgm, eyecatches, characterizations, plot, developement, which it makes it more appealing than cartoons.

I mean, the opening song for cartoons dont even have words sometimes, and if the do, a insturmental version is played for end credits, with not pictures! Theres never eyecatches! The bgm is the same for evrything! The expressions are the same, except its mad, sad, happy. The voices are the same for every expression. From "Hi!" to "What's going on?!" so yeah...cartoons are much different.

Dark_Card · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10 2005, 12:07 pm »

when I stumble across some anime being aired on T.V. I watch until I hear the names. if they have American names I change it. that is the sign of a bad dubbed right there. as for the voice actors it depends on the series some series I like and Japanese voices more and some I like the Engish voices more. I wont boycot a show because of a bad voice over. like Rurouni Kenshin. some of the English voices are nice and well....some of them make me want to shoot the TV. but its still a cool show.

ok sorry about that. well I think that for a lot of people it depends of the first anime/manga they see. like if all you'd ever scene was henti then thats all you'd think there was to it, same thing if you saw pokemon. but I feel sorry for the people like that because they don't know what their missing! (thankfully I wasn't like that, the first anime I ever saw was ranma 1/2 and I was 7!)

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