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touchdown turnarou:

--- Quote from: Kazemon15 on November 11 2006, 05:16 pm ---Maybe friendship? Brotherhood? I doubt Kurogane had any friends besides Tomoyo in Nihon. Anyway, this is a fav couples thread, I was just stating my thoughts, go ahead and support your fav coupling, ^^

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Ew, I shudder at the thought of a someone blatantly flirting with their siblings.

Maybe! But then why is Fay trying so hard to distance himself from Kurogane if he views him only as a close friend? After all, he has no qualms about remaining close to Sakura and Mokona. Plus, how does his love confession commet about "crossing the line" and "getting any closer" work if he views Kurogane the same way he views the rest of the group, who, I repeat, he isn't pushing away?

Kazemon15:

--- Quote from: touchdown turnarou on November 11 2006, 05:21 pm ---Ew, I shudder at the thought of a someone blatantly flirting with their siblings.

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Heh....well, CLAMP somewhat supports that too, so we might see it sooner or later...

--- Quote ---Maybe! But then why is Fay trying so hard to distance himself from Kurogane if he views him only as a close friend? After all, he has no qualms about remaining close to Sakura and Mokona. Plus, how does his love confession commet about "crossing the line" and "getting any closer" work if he views Kurogane the same way he views the rest of the group, who, I repeat, he isn't pushing away?
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Well, from my point of view, "Crossing the line" could be interperted as going too far in terms of teasing him so much that he actually began to trust him way too much just like he did with Ashura, and thus, got betrayed because of it....and "getting any closer" ...another terms of trust.... he never wanted to trust anyone...but before he knew it, he began trusting them all, so now he's pushing them away, hoping they wont care for him anymore so they can let him die.

touchdown turnarou:

--- Quote from: Kazemon15 on November 11 2006, 05:44 pm ---Heh....well, CLAMP somewhat supports that too, so we might see it sooner or later...
Well, from my point of view, "Crossing the line" could be interperted as going too far in terms of teasing him so much that he actually began to trust him way too much just like he did with Ashura, and thus, got betrayed because of it....and "getting any closer" ...another terms of trust.... he never wanted to trust anyone...but before he knew it, he began trusting them all, so now he's pushing them away, hoping they wont care for him anymore so they can let him die.

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But he's not pushing them all away, he's only pushing Kurogane away. And we don't know anything about his past, so we aren't sure if Ashura-ou betrayed him. (If you're familiar with RG Veda, the idea of Ashura-ou intentionally doing something to harm anyone he cares for is quite unrealistic.) Though it is strongly implied that he freed him from wherever he was kept prisoner and that he was the one truly important person for Fay in his world, for he's the only person from he past that he constantly things about. But I digress.

It is a nice theory you have there, but it still doesn't explain why Kurogane gets to be treated coldly while Sakura and Mokona don't, when, as you believe, he views him merely as a friend, a comrade, someone he can trust, just like the rest of the gang.

Kazemon15:

--- Quote from: touchdown turnarou on November 11 2006, 05:58 pm ---
It is a nice theory you have there, but it still doesn't explain why Kurogane gets to be treated coldly while Sakura and Mokona don't, when, as you believe, he views him merely as a friend, a comrade, someone he can trust, just like the rest of the gang.

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Actually, I think it does explain why...after all...Fai's wish was to die....it has always been his wish....and Kurogane betrayed him of that....Kurogane deprived him of his true wish, thus, Fai feels that he opened up too much.....and considering how Fai is so terrified of Ashura, it's proof that Ashura betrayed him one way or another....you can still care for a person you're terrified....an off topic example but, my stepbrother was abused so badly by his mother...yet he still cares and respects her...because...after all, she took care of him....and in his eyes, Sakura and Mokona have not betrayed him yet.... so he feels he can trust them the most...

And about the RG Veda thing.....Shougo was an enemy in the X movie...but now he's a comrade...CLAMP can change things...

touchdown turnarou:

--- Quote from: Kazemon15 on November 11 2006, 06:07 pm ---Actually, I think it does explain why...after all...Fai's wish was to die....it has always been his wish....and Kurogane betrayed him of that....Kurogane deprived him of his true wish, thus, Fai feels that he opened up too much.....and considering how Fai is so terrified of Ashura, it's proof that Ashura betrayed him one way or another....you can still care for a person you're terrified....an off topic example but, my stepbrother was abused so badly by his mother...yet he still cares and respects her...because...after all, she took care of him....and in his eyes, Sakura and Mokona have not betrayed him yet.... so he feels he can trust them the most...

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Er, well, I respect you view and obviously don't agree with it. I already expressed my sentiments and I don't feel like restating them all over again at the moment (re: I'm really tired).

About Ashura-ou: or he could be terrified of something he himself (Fay) did, perhaps? Or of the thought of Ashura-ou getting harmed because he is looking for him?

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