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Who is your Favorite couple?(Qusetion for Yaoi fan girls mostly.)

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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #300 on: November 05 2006, 08:29 am »
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« Reply #301 on: November 05 2006, 08:44 am »
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I also voted Kurogane/Fay.  Sakura/Syaoran is definitely the main couple of the series, but we already know how they'll turn out-- they'll definitely end up together.  However, we don't know for sure what lies ahead for Kuro/Fay, which makes their dynamic more interesting.

But then, S+S has become a lot more interesting lately (most know what I'm talking about, but in case everyone hasn't read the latest chapters, I won't spoil it)...

Anyway, I have a confession to make: I never were that into CCS S+S - sure, they were cute with all their blushing and stuff, but I didn't care much for the pairing, mostly because I felt that Syaoran developed feelings for Sakura way, way too fast, especially in the manga - so when I started following TRC, I were quite indifferent to them (the damsel-in-distress/perfect hero didn't exactly help, either) although them knowing each other since childhood and thus having had years to establish their relationship appealed to me.

Today however, I am a different man. Just as how Sakura has slowly, gradually, grown to love Syaoran, I have become more and more fond of the pairing while having followed their adventures, and now, S+S has found its place in my list of favourite pairings. I sometimes even find myself drawing fanart and thinking of cute fluffy scenes...
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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #302 on: November 11 2006, 06:12 am »
Well....I'd have to say...SyaoranxSakura, KuroganexTomoyo and FaixChi...just my opinion....and maybe some SoratoxArashi ^^ ....Oh! YashaAshura too!


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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #303 on: November 11 2006, 06:34 am »
Now now, what's up with all the rude reactions? As far as I know I can express my opinions freely here

Let me tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if Kuro and Fai would end up as a pairing, and I know CLAMP likes yaoi stuff. It's not about now knowing CLAMP well, but seriously so far I don't remember a single clue in the manga of them ending up as a pair. Sure, we've seen Fai saying that he wants to be loved, that he's looking for someone to stay with him. We've seen them talking several times. And now Kuro saved his life, but still, it's got nothing to do with them loving each other. Personally, if a close friend of mine was in danger of dying, i'd do everything possible on my hands to save him, and that has nothing to do with being g4y

So, we're not reading different mangas at all. Tell me at least one real clue in the manga that tells us they will end up as a yaoi pairing, and i'll swallow all my words. Even if they still may end up with each other without any clue at all, you guys keep saying that the manga has all the "proof" that it will be that way

Seriously I didn't expect I would be eaten up by half the users in this forum. It's just an opinion, and as much as i hate yaoi pairings i respect your opinions, your theories, everything. And if you're so upset that someone else thinks differently, man, I didn't know my opinion could change the outcome of the series...

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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #304 on: November 11 2006, 06:52 am »
Let me tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if Kuro and Fai would end up as a pairing, and I know CLAMP likes yaoi stuff. It's not about now knowing CLAMP well, but seriously so far I don't remember a single clue in the manga of them ending up as a pair. Sure, we've seen Fai saying that he wants to be loved, that he's looking for someone to stay with him. We've seen them talking several times. And now Kuro saved his life, but still, it's got nothing to do with them loving each other. Personally, if a close friend of mine was in danger of dying, i'd do everything possible on my hands to save him, and that has nothing to do with being g4y

So, we're not reading different mangas at all. Tell me at least one real clue in the manga that tells us they will end up as a yaoi pairing, and i'll swallow all my words. Even if they still may end up with each other without any clue at all, you guys keep saying that the manga has all the "proof" that it will be that way

That is true....I do agree with that, but, everyone to their own opinion.....some ppl see it, some ppl dont......and you have a point, we will honestly not know what is canon or not until they officially say it....or do something couple-like....


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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #305 on: November 11 2006, 06:54 am »
I should be Kurogane x Tomoyo fan forever. I like Sakura x Syaoran too. Fai x Chi is cute. Sorato x Arashi is always nice. Although........I just wish I could at LEAST SEE FUU X FERIO! (My top favorite Clamp couple). I would love to see them again and Hikaru and Lantis too.
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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #306 on: November 11 2006, 01:41 pm »
Now now, what's up with all the rude reactions? As far as I know I can express my opinions freely here

Let me tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if Kuro and Fai would end up as a pairing, and I know CLAMP likes yaoi stuff. It's not about now knowing CLAMP well, but seriously so far I don't remember a single clue in the manga of them ending up as a pair. Sure, we've seen Fai saying that he wants to be loved, that he's looking for someone to stay with him. We've seen them talking several times. And now Kuro saved his life, but still, it's got nothing to do with them loving each other. Personally, if a close friend of mine was in danger of dying, i'd do everything possible on my hands to save him, and that has nothing to do with being g4y

So, we're not reading different mangas at all. Tell me at least one real clue in the manga that tells us they will end up as a yaoi pairing, and i'll swallow all my words. Even if they still may end up with each other without any clue at all, you guys keep saying that the manga has all the "proof" that it will be that way

Seriously I didn't expect I would be eaten up by half the users in this forum. It's just an opinion, and as much as i hate yaoi pairings i respect your opinions, your theories, everything. And if you're so upset that someone else thinks differently, man, I didn't know my opinion could change the outcome of the series...

Do you truly want me to list all the clue you have "missed"? I can do that if you wish. The clues have been pretty blatant, indeed, Fay flirting with Kurogane is very hard to miss unless you personally do not want to see such thing. It's a matter of perception, if one isn't comfortable with such subject they will automatically view the interaction that is intended to be viewed in a non platonic manner as platonic.

I'm sorry, but the clues are there. There's plenty. If you don't want to see them, you won't, but CLAMP has included some pretty blatant clues (Fay's constant flirting, Kurogane willing to give up anything in order to save Fay's live, Fay quasi-love confession when speaking to Yuuko) and some more subtle clues (symbology dealing with the whole yin/yang theme they have going on). I've met plenty of male TRC fans who have seen the numerous Kuro/Fay clues and trust me, they are straight males who don't go around looking for subtext like we fangirls do. So, it is definitely there. That you don't want to see it is another thing..

(Though I can safely bet you that if Fay, or Kurogane for the matter, were a female, many of the people "not seeing anything" would screaming canon at the top of their lungs with us.)

Sp, you really want me to list of the clues you've "missed"?

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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #307 on: November 11 2006, 01:54 pm »
Do you truly want me to list all the clue you have "missed"? I can do that if you wish. The clues have been pretty blatant, indeed, Fay flirting with Kurogane is very hard to miss unless you personally do not want to see such thing. It's a matter of perception, if one isn't comfortable with such subject they will automatically view the interaction that is intended to be viewed in a non platonic manner as platonic.

I'm sorry, but the clues are there. There's plenty. If you don't want to see them, you won't, but CLAMP has included some pretty blatant clues (Fay's constant flirting, Kurogane willing to give up anything in order to save Fay's live, Fay quasi-love confession when speaking to Yuuko) and some more subtle clues (symbology dealing with the whole yin/yang theme they have going on). I've met plenty of male TRC fans who have seen the numerous Kuro/Fay clues and trust me, they are straight males who don't go around looking for subtext like we fangirls do. So, it is definitely there. That you don't want to see it is another thing..

(Though I can safely bet you that if Fay, or Kurogane for the matter, were a female, many of the people "not seeing anything" would screaming canon at the top of their lungs with us.)

Sp, you really want me to list of the clues you've "missed"?

Go ahead. I guess it's a matter of perception like you said. Maybe you're right that i don't want to see it, but i don't see any clue when Kuro wants to save Fai's life or when he talks with Yuuko. But I guess you could also take it as a confession

Don't think I posted to start argueing here. I just found all those offensive replies asking for reasons and that's what I did. I think everyone is free to interpretate the interaction between Fai and Kuro the way they want, and that's what makes people have different opinions. To me, there's still not a clue that suggests that they will end up as a pairing, unlike SxS, when we see them blushing or when Sakura kisses Syaoran's eye. There's no room for interpretation there, unlike KuroxFai's case

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« Reply #308 on: November 11 2006, 04:34 pm »
Go ahead. I guess it's a matter of perception like you said. Maybe you're right that i don't want to see it, but i don't see any clue when Kuro wants to save Fai's life or when he talks with Yuuko. But I guess you could also take it as a confession

Don't think I posted to start argueing here. I just found all those offensive replies asking for reasons and that's what I did. I think everyone is free to interpretate the interaction between Fai and Kuro the way they want, and that's what makes people have different opinions. To me, there's still not a clue that suggests that they will end up as a pairing, unlike SxS, when we see them blushing or when Sakura kisses Syaoran's eye. There's no room for interpretation there, unlike KuroxFai's case

I hope i explained myself and if i offended anyone I apologize

You didn't offend me in any way, so don't worry. We are merely debating and as long as we keep this civil, everything's fine.

Let me just say for once that one cannot deny the fact that Syaoran/Sakura will become a couple because, besides the obvious hints that they like each other, it has been established in a previous work that they are indeed soulmates. If we didn't have that piece of information, everyone would be free to interpret the interaction whichever way they chose, which is pretty obviously romantic, but there's a couple of dense people out there that would probalby merely see it as platonic. So, even if a pairing makes out and does the deed, if they are not explicitily stated to be a couple, there's still room for interpretation.

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Now, let’s see, first and foremost, you have the interaction between the two since the first time the met. The blatantly flirtatious nature of Fay’s bantering (and do not say that that is simply Fay’s personality and that he acts that way towards everyone because it is a lie. He is rather polite to most strangers and he himself said that Kurogane had been the first person he ever treated that way when he had that conversation with Yuuko), the way Kurogane saw through Fay’s façade when no one else did, the way they compliment each other so nicely, etc. All of those are the most obvious aspects, and if you don’t see them, I am just inclined to believe that it is simply because you do not wish to.

Let’s continue with the latest development, Kurogane’s recent actions and his willingness to sacrifice anything (even returning to his cherished Nihon) in order to save Fay from dying, something which even if you do not interpret as romantic (which I cannot fathom how why but that’s merely me), you have to admit that it’s pretty significant. Kurogane, knowing that Yuuko would ask for a really high, perhaps even unreasonable, price did not hesitate even once. You have to also keep in mind that before this event, Kurogane had shown that he didn’t trust Yuuko and didn’t overall like her very much, so Fay must’ve been someone truly important for him if he reduced himself to asking for her help. Now, let’s speak about the price, which Yuuko said was incredibly high and it would be quite heavy to bear, so that’s why she had Kurogane asked to fill the underground reservoir and as an exchange, Subaru gave some of his blood.  Another indication that Fay is highly important for Kurogane and notice how this situation mirrors the sacrifice Syaoran made at the beginning of the manga for the sake of Sakura. (But I guess since Syaoran and Sakura aren’t a same-sex couple there is no skepticism, right?) Also, it is important to notice, that Kurogane’s actions were incredibly selfish. Fay wanted to die yet Kurogane completely ignored his wishes and went against them. So, the argument that Kurogane was the only person that could do anything at the moment and that’s the reason he did it is simply ludicrous.

(Oh, and remember that line when Fay's drinking Kuro's and Kamui's blood? "His companion's feelings have reached him.." and the line on the splash page with Kuro, chapter 124 I believe, that says how Kurogane's "have come to understand the meaning of true strength"? Yeah, I don't think the timing of those lines were any coincidence. Neither does Yuuko, I'm sure.)

Fay’s quasi-love confession, I do not know how anyone can view it as non-significant and thing that the closeness he spoke of wasn’t romantic in any way, but nevermind.  In his conversation with Yuuko he revealed how he had never given anyone nicknames ("Just accept them as a token of my love!" from the Tsubasa Character Book) before and had enjoy teasing Kurogane quite a bit (sounds a lot like flirting to me) yet he never realize he had crossed the line. He would never forgive Kurogane from doing what he did for him because he feared getting any closer to the ninja. Yet, as we’ve seen in the recent chapters, he’s treating both Sakura and Mokona exactly as he treated them before and ignoring Kurogane. Why would that be? Perhaps because the closeness between him and Kurogane differs quite a bit from his closeness to Sakura and Mokona and thus presents a risk for him and perhaps even Kurogane. After all, Fay did state before does not want anyone to get harmed because of him, so that’s why he pushes everyone away. But in this case, he’s only pushing Kurogane away…

There are quite a lot of hints throughout the manga, but I would have to stay up all night if I wanted to list all of them. But I will list the one moment that made me a Kurogane/Fay fan and that I cannot comprehend how anyone can interpret as not meant to be romantic: in Outo, in the Clover bar, as Oruha sings that ballad of hers about waiting for someone to take her away and Kurogane, being his usual self, comments why she doesn’t leave is she wishes to. Then Fay states just how he’s always been waiting for someone to take him away and he tells who? Kurogane! Zomg, totally a coincidence, you say! And Yuuko dies because she’s said many times before that in the CLAMPverse there isn’t such a thing as coincidence and everything, everything happens for a reason.

Now, there are so many subtle hints ever since the beginning of the manga indicating that CLAMP meant for their relationship to develop into something else. One of the most prominent is the entire yin/yang, opposites attract and compliment each other thing the two of them have going on. There’s a lot of symbolism throughout the manga that supports this pairing quite a lot (and that, once again, if they weren’t both male I’m sure naysayers would’ve caught and accepted long time ago) and I will list some of them:

-Kudans: Kurogane’s a dragon. Fay’s is a phoenix. How’s that significant?
In some Chinese legends, an Emperor might be born with a birthmark in the shape of a dragon. The Empress of China was often identified with the Chinese phoenix...
In ancient China, they can often be found in the decorations for weddings or royalty, along with dragons. This is because the Chinese considered the dragon and phoenix symbolic of blissful relations between husband and wife, another common yin and yang metaphor.
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-Kurogane’s color is black and Fay’s is white
-Kurogane’s other color is red and Fay’s is blue
-Daddy/mommy, enough said
-Notice the parallel the group has going once? Syaoran-Kurogane/Sakura-Fay. CLAMP has drawn several instances in which that parallel is remarked

And there’s surely more but I cannot recall everything right now. Also, I probably forgot some crucial things, like I always do, but you get the general idea. If you still cannot "see anything", then I can't help. It's simply a matter of whether your comfortable and accepting and know how CLAMP work.

To me, the fact that I've met people who've read TRC and are in fact following the English releases (which haven't gotten to Acid Tokyo) and have acknowledge the hints indicating the relationship between Kurogane and Fay is not merely brotherly or platonic and that it is bound to develop into something more is enough to tell me that the CLAMP meant for the relationship to be seen that way and that it is quite odd to "not see" the hints at all. Keep in mind that I'm speaking of straight males and females who aren't yaoi fans at all and that aren't also that familiar with CLAMP. They don't go looking for "yaoi" subtext like we fangirls do. Maybe because they don't have any problems with same-sex relationships (and you shouldn't have any problems with m/m or f/f pairings if you call yourself a CLAMP fan) and are quite tolerant?
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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #309 on: November 11 2006, 04:45 pm »
Let’s continue with the latest development, Kurogane’s recent actions and his willingness to sacrifice anything (even returning to his cherished Nihon) in order to save Fay from dying, something which even if you do not interpret as romantic (which I cannot fathom how why but that’s merely me), you have to admit that it’s pretty significant.

Hmm can I state my opinion? I read another translation that said "What can I do?" ...instead of "I'll do anything" ...various translations and many ways to interpert them, my mon taught Japanese students for 30 years and even they said that there are many translations for one saying. The fact that a KuroFai fangirl is translating the manga in what terms she thinks is best is fine, as long as she tells the translations can vary.
And now saying about translations....Del Rey has a bunch of professional translators that translate the material in which they think is the best and easiest way for readers to understand, just like the fan translators are doing.
Anyway, not trying to cause argument, but the "I'll do anything" part cant really count because it has many various translations...


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« Reply #310 on: November 11 2006, 04:55 pm »
Hmm can I state my opinion? I read another translation that said "What can I do?" ...instead of "I'll do anything" ...various translations and many ways to interpert them, my mon taught Japanese students for 30 years and even they said that there are many translations for one saying. The fact that a KuroFai fangirl is translating the manga in what terms she thinks is best is fine, as long as she tells the translations can vary.
And now saying about translations....Del Rey has a bunch of professional translators that translate the material in which they think is the best and easiest way for readers to understand, just like the fan translators are doing.
Anyway, not trying to cause argument, but the "I'll do anything" part cant really count because it has many various translations...

The fact of the matter is that he was willing to give up anything, so the way he asked is not really that significant. I don't think the fact that he was willing to give up anything to keep Fay alive is debatable because he had no idea what price Yuuko was going to ask for, and he did not care, as long as Fay remained alive.

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« Reply #311 on: November 11 2006, 05:08 pm »
Point is, Kurogane wouldn't have asked Yuuko for anything if he didn't mean it. Therefore, he could have said nothing at all and the implication would still be the same.

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« Reply #312 on: November 11 2006, 05:10 pm »
The fact of the matter is that he was willing to give up anything, so the way he asked is not really that significant. I don't think the fact that he was willing to give up anything to keep Fay alive is debatable because he had no idea what price Yuuko was going to ask for, and he did not care, as long as Fay remained alive.

I understand your point of view....however...."what can I do" and "I'll do anything" translation is significant....for instance...."What can I do" could mean in Kurogane's way of saying "What is the price, I'll see what I can do from there" After all, I noticed alot of times Kurogane says one thing, but means another thing.... I do agree he is very willing to save Fai...but judging from the picture when he said that, he didnt even look at Yuko, knowing that her price could have very well meant his goodbye to Nihon, however, as one of his promises to Tomoyo is not to let a life go to waste, comrades and enemies...which he learned on his journey the true meaning of strength...so in order to save his comrade, he would be willing not to see his home again because of his change of heart, the reason why Tomoyo sent him out in the first place, to respect life, which now he does.


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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #313 on: November 11 2006, 05:13 pm »
I understand your point of view....however...."what can I do" and "I'll do anything" translation is significant....for instance...."What can I do" could mean in Kurogane's way of saying "What is the price, I'll see what I can do from there" After all, I noticed alot of times Kurogane says one thing, but means another thing.... I do agree he is very willing to save Fai...but judging from the picture when he said that, he didnt even look at Yuko, knowing that her price could have very well meant his goodbye to Nihon, however, as one of his promises to Tomoyo is not to let a life go to waste, comrades and enemies...which he learned on his journey the true meaning of strength...so in order to save his comrade, he would be willing not to see his home again because of his change of heart, the reason why Tomoyo sent him out in the first place, to respect life, which now he does.

Which in itself is pretty significant, don't you think? Tomoyo wasn't able to teach him the true meaning of strength yet his "comrade" was able to do so. Um, talk about having an impact on someone's life. Wonder why?

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« Reply #314 on: November 11 2006, 05:16 pm »
Maybe friendship? Brotherhood? I doubt Kurogane had any friends besides Tomoyo in Nihon. Anyway, this is a fav couples thread, I was just stating my thoughts, go ahead and support your fav coupling, ^^


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« Reply #315 on: November 11 2006, 05:21 pm »
Maybe friendship? Brotherhood? I doubt Kurogane had any friends besides Tomoyo in Nihon. Anyway, this is a fav couples thread, I was just stating my thoughts, go ahead and support your fav coupling, ^^

Ew, I shudder at the thought of a someone blatantly flirting with their siblings.

Maybe! But then why is Fay trying so hard to distance himself from Kurogane if he views him only as a close friend? After all, he has no qualms about remaining close to Sakura and Mokona. Plus, how does his love confession commet about "crossing the line" and "getting any closer" work if he views Kurogane the same way he views the rest of the group, who, I repeat, he isn't pushing away?

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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #316 on: November 11 2006, 05:44 pm »
Ew, I shudder at the thought of a someone blatantly flirting with their siblings.

Heh....well, CLAMP somewhat supports that too, so we might see it sooner or later...
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Maybe! But then why is Fay trying so hard to distance himself from Kurogane if he views him only as a close friend? After all, he has no qualms about remaining close to Sakura and Mokona. Plus, how does his love confession commet about "crossing the line" and "getting any closer" work if he views Kurogane the same way he views the rest of the group, who, I repeat, he isn't pushing away?

Well, from my point of view, "Crossing the line" could be interperted as going too far in terms of teasing him so much that he actually began to trust him way too much just like he did with Ashura, and thus, got betrayed because of it....and "getting any closer" ...another terms of trust.... he never wanted to trust anyone...but before he knew it, he began trusting them all, so now he's pushing them away, hoping they wont care for him anymore so they can let him die.


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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #317 on: November 11 2006, 05:58 pm »
Heh....well, CLAMP somewhat supports that too, so we might see it sooner or later...
Well, from my point of view, "Crossing the line" could be interperted as going too far in terms of teasing him so much that he actually began to trust him way too much just like he did with Ashura, and thus, got betrayed because of it....and "getting any closer" ...another terms of trust.... he never wanted to trust anyone...but before he knew it, he began trusting them all, so now he's pushing them away, hoping they wont care for him anymore so they can let him die.

But he's not pushing them all away, he's only pushing Kurogane away. And we don't know anything about his past, so we aren't sure if Ashura-ou betrayed him. (If you're familiar with RG Veda, the idea of Ashura-ou intentionally doing something to harm anyone he cares for is quite unrealistic.) Though it is strongly implied that he freed him from wherever he was kept prisoner and that he was the one truly important person for Fay in his world, for he's the only person from he past that he constantly things about. But I digress.

It is a nice theory you have there, but it still doesn't explain why Kurogane gets to be treated coldly while Sakura and Mokona don't, when, as you believe, he views him merely as a friend, a comrade, someone he can trust, just like the rest of the gang.

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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #318 on: November 11 2006, 06:07 pm »

It is a nice theory you have there, but it still doesn't explain why Kurogane gets to be treated coldly while Sakura and Mokona don't, when, as you believe, he views him merely as a friend, a comrade, someone he can trust, just like the rest of the gang.

Actually, I think it does explain why...after all...Fai's wish was to die....it has always been his wish....and Kurogane betrayed him of that....Kurogane deprived him of his true wish, thus, Fai feels that he opened up too much.....and considering how Fai is so terrified of Ashura, it's proof that Ashura betrayed him one way or another....you can still care for a person you're terrified....an off topic example but, my stepbrother was abused so badly by his mother...yet he still cares and respects her...because...after all, she took care of him....and in his eyes, Sakura and Mokona have not betrayed him yet.... so he feels he can trust them the most...

And about the RG Veda thing.....Shougo was an enemy in the X movie...but now he's a comrade...CLAMP can change things...


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Re: Favorite couple?
« Reply #319 on: November 11 2006, 06:17 pm »
Actually, I think it does explain why...after all...Fai's wish was to die....it has always been his wish....and Kurogane betrayed him of that....Kurogane deprived him of his true wish, thus, Fai feels that he opened up too much.....and considering how Fai is so terrified of Ashura, it's proof that Ashura betrayed him one way or another....you can still care for a person you're terrified....an off topic example but, my stepbrother was abused so badly by his mother...yet he still cares and respects her...because...after all, she took care of him....and in his eyes, Sakura and Mokona have not betrayed him yet.... so he feels he can trust them the most...

Er, well, I respect you view and obviously don't agree with it. I already expressed my sentiments and I don't feel like restating them all over again at the moment (re: I'm really tired).

About Ashura-ou: or he could be terrified of something he himself (Fay) did, perhaps? Or of the thought of Ashura-ou getting harmed because he is looking for him?