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Title: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 12 2005, 03:49 pm
What do u think about Gravitation? i mean is a men  x men relationship and there is many people who disagree in this kind of relationship, they only see that the correct form to love is men and women, but is not always like that, i have a sister and i friend who hate this serie because of that.

But i think that men and men relationships are not bad,
my favorites couple in this serie is:
Yuki and Suuichi

but there is something i didnt get in at the end:

i don't remember the name but is the husband of yuki's sister, well the pont is that, was he in love with yuki?
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 12 2005, 03:54 pm
People who think relationships are bad for any reason that doesn't pose as a danger to either member of the relationship... are freakin' morons. It's just true. I personally think being against a relationship because two people are of the same gender is just as bad as being against a relationship because two people are a different race, or are from a different social status. It's just STUPID. Now, ignoring the morons...

Yes yes, many people think that Touma loves Yuki. It's a bit more obvious in the manga, but in both it is heavily implied. Anyway, I.. erm... LIKE Gravitation, it's just that, the manga got way too out of control after volume seven or eight, and the anime was too tame... *sweatdrop* I know that's weird, but that's what I think... However, I am *obsessed* with Ryuuichi and the cute little Kumagorou-kun! I have Kuma plushies and a Kuma tank top! And for Ryuuichi, I just draw him. All the time... (*cough* my fav couple is Ryuuichi and Tatsuha *cough*)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 13 2005, 01:30 pm
i know Ryuuichi  is totally sweet, he is always smiling and with his little bunny :) they are totally cute. :)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 13 2005, 02:21 pm
waaii! i love gravitation! it's what first got me into shounen-ai. and that of course means i support guy and guy relationships. after watching the anime, i proceeded to read the manga... favorite couple: shuichi and yuki of course! ^__^- but i also love K and ryuichi too! (and kumagoro! i wan't a plushie of it!)

the manga was a little confusing...lots of interesting dialogue, but it sure had more shounen-ai than the anime! and it ends in a cuter way than the anime did, in my opinion.... but i liked the anime for the voices, and the songs, and the animation was pretty good too! ^^

and yeah, touma loves yuki. there's always that kind of person in a relationship that i fully support isn't there?? for touya and yuki there's kaho, for fai and kurogane there's tomoyo, and for shuichi and yuki there's touma!! grr...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 13 2005, 03:53 pm
Kyaa! OMG me, too! For Kamui and Fuuma there is KOTORI *growls* for Syaoran and Sakura there's Meilin (In CCS), for Shu and Yuki there's Touma (Like you said) and even Kitazawa sometimes, For Fai and Kuro there's Tomoyo (another one you already said), and the list just goes on and on...

But anyway, about Gravitation, did ANYBODY even imagine it would go in the direction it did? When I first picked it up, I thought it was gonna be an interesting manga about a group (Bad Luck) who is suddenly rivaled by their own mentor (Nittle Grasper) in a competetion for number 1 on the charts. Instead, people's heads were getting blown off and pandas were flying in the sky. (I hate Rage/Reiji, by the way...) Also, for someone as popular as he is, Ryuuichi wasn't even in the story *that* much... (I'm guilty of loving him, too, though... So much that Ryuuichi was my nickname for a LONG time...)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 14 2005, 12:10 pm
Kyaa! OMG me, too! For Kamui and Fuuma there is KOTORI *growls* for Syaoran and Sakura there's Meilin (In CCS), for Shu and Yuki there's Touma (Like you said) and even Kitazawa sometimes, For Fai and Kuro there's Tomoyo (another one you already said), and the list just goes on and on...

grr...don't people in those relationships stink?? >.< it's good you mentioned kotori (!!!) and also meilin!

But anyway, about Gravitation, did ANYBODY even imagine it would go in the direction it did? When I first picked it up, I thought it was gonna be an interesting manga about a group (Bad Luck) who is suddenly rivaled by their own mentor (Nittle Grasper) in a competetion for number 1 on the charts. Instead, people's heads were getting blown off and pandas were flying in the sky. (I hate Rage/Reiji, by the way...) Also, for someone as popular as he is, Ryuuichi wasn't even in the story *that* much... (I'm guilty of loving him, too, though... So much that Ryuuichi was my nickname for a LONG time...)

:lol: yaa! i never imagined the giant panda robot and people shooting bullets through innocent people's heads and the frequent bursting nosebleeds.... and i didn't like Rage either...¬_¬ ah! i just realized she's another one of those people! like kaho and kotori and touma and tomoyo!! but much much more violent.. O_o
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 14 2005, 02:12 pm
Ah! She IS another one of those people! Stooopid Rage... *hated* her, totally. freakin'. *hated* her...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: Ruby Chan on September 16 2005, 05:46 am
Yuki's always portrayed in fiction as cold, mean and basically an evil guy...but watching the anime, I never seemed to get that vibe at all. He just seemed a mysterious, angsty character with a lot of pain in his life.....I never really did see him as cold. Plus, he did a lot of things for Shuichi, and it was the singer who caused the most pain in the relationship....AND, everything he did, such as leaving Shuichi, wasn't to hurt him, but to try and keep him safe.

Am I the only one who thinks along those lines?
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: Sakaki on September 16 2005, 06:03 am
Yeah, I think Yuki was trying to protect Shuichi, but also trying to protect himself from feeling anything for anyone ever again. But Shuichi kind of forced him to!

I've read the whole series, and have watched through episode eight of the anime. I really love it. I think I like the anime a bit better than the manga though.
Although I like the manga ending. Haven't seen the anime ending, so don't know if it's exactly the same or not.

Only thing that really threw me were all the weird action scenes in the manga.
I was always like WTH??
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 16 2005, 06:53 am
yuki doesn't want to hurt Shu that's why he is always pushing him away but the true is that he wants shu at his side, (at least i hink that) and in the end of the ova we see this really clear :)
also i have a question touma loves yuki right?
so his wife doesn't know about touma's feelings for yuki?
who can u get marry whit someone who loves your brother?!
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 16 2005, 12:28 pm
Who knows why Touma married Yuki's sister. ^^;

Yeah, Yuki in the anime seemed more caring than the Yuki in the manga, except at the end. A the end, I felt it switched, and the Yuki in the manga seemed like he cared more (about his relationship with Shuichi) than in the anime. Which is why I like the manga ending! ^^

I still have to see the OVA though. >_<
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 17 2005, 04:35 am
Who knows why Touma married Yuki's sister. ^^;

Yeah, Yuki in the anime seemed more caring than the Yuki in the manga, except at the end. A the end, I felt it switched, and the Yuki in the manga seemed like he cared more (about his relationship with Shuichi) than in the anime. Which is why I like the manga ending! ^^

I still have to see the OVA though. >_<

I noticed that, too.. In the manga, we could see his relationship with Shuichi grow, but in the anime, it started and.. stayed the same.. throughout the whole thing... Which was weird..
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 18 2005, 04:07 am
it seems like the manga is better but i haven't seen it yet :( just the anime but i'm going to get the manga somehow :)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 18 2005, 08:54 am
Oh my gosh, you guys, I might need to start a new thread for this, but I heard there's gonna be a Gravitation 2! A second manga series! O.o Maybe there will be no Rage! But I heard there may be no Ryuichi, either... *cries* I also heard Tokyo Pop has already made plans to pick it up! But I can't find any sites on it anywhere...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: Sakaki on September 18 2005, 11:08 am
Hmm, I knew she was putting out a new chapter, but didn't know about a second manga series. That would be cool. But no Ryuichi!! Awww, we need Ryuichi!
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 18 2005, 02:36 pm
How awesome!! I really want to see Shuichi and Yuki as a singing writing team... That'd be so cute!

Eeh? No Ryuichi?? Uso...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 19 2005, 05:32 am
more Yuki and Shu! happy! :) so cute but we need Ryuichi! :(
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 20 2005, 06:12 am
Hyuuuu! I found some of Gravitation 2! And sorry for the scare, peeps, Ryuichi IS in it! And he's as psychotic as always! Sadly, Rage is there, also... *vein* But she is amazingly more tolerable in this one...

For example:

Shuichi: "We didn't come to New York to see YOU! We came to visit a GRAVE!"

Rage: *dramatic pose and points out the window* "Well, the pyramid of my ancestors is just to the right of central park..."

I thought that was awesome.. Anyway, Ryuichi wasn't with Kuma, and that wasn't cool, but Kumagorou-kun WAS in some random panel, I'll find it later... Also, so far there has been no sign of Touma, Hiro, Tatsuha, K, Sakano, Suguru, Noriko, and TONS of others.. Actually, the only familiar people we've seen are Yoshiki, Ryuichi, Rage, Shuichi, and Yuki... The only person besides them is a new kid, who is Kitazawa's son, Riku... Take into consideration I'm only on the second chapter of this...

More info later, folks!
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 20 2005, 11:14 am
i want to see gravitation 2 too please can u let me know where did u get it? please! :)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 20 2005, 12:06 pm
i want to see gravitation 2 too please can u let me know where did u get it? please! :)

Me too, Yuki-chan!! :hello2: Wow! Kitazawa had a son!
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 20 2005, 03:32 pm
Well... *sweatdrop* Somone sent it to me... And I haven't seen any websites about it... I'll find a way to do it, though, but I'm gonna be busy until this weekend, but I can probably do it then, ne?
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 21 2005, 02:43 pm
that will be tperfect!!!!!:):) of course if is not a problem for u we will be waiting with big smiles in our mouth thanks  :) thanks :)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 27 2005, 01:54 pm
Hey, all!

I think I discovered a website that has the first three chapters of Gravitation 2! I haven't tried it yet (cause I'm on the wrong computer..), but I thought I should share it! :keke:

Gravitation 2 scanlations (http://www.manganews.net/seriesinfo.php?id=3262)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 27 2005, 01:58 pm
Hey, all!

I think I discovered a website that has the first three chapters of Gravitation 2! I haven't tried it yet (cause I'm on the wrong computer..), but I thought I should share it! :keke:

Gravitation 2 scanlations (http://www.manganews.net/seriesinfo.php?id=3262)

Kyaa! Thank you for posting that, but I can't figure out how to download it! >_< Stupid Yuki... *hits head*
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 27 2005, 02:09 pm
Eek! I apologize in advance if it turns out that I gave you a link that doesn't work... >< Hopefully I'll discover when I get on the other computer that actually can download... :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: Sakaki on September 27 2005, 02:11 pm
Does anyone know where to download the Gravitation Drama CD's or Sound Stories?
I love to listen to those even though I don't know everything they are saying.
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 27 2005, 02:14 pm
Eek! I apologize in advance if it turns out that I gave you a link that doesn't work... >< Hopefully I'll discover when I get on the other computer that actually can download... :sweatdrop:

Hmm, actually, I looked at it again, and I think that the torrents for it just aren't up yet or something... I dunno! XD
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 27 2005, 02:18 pm
Does anyone know where to download the Gravitation Drama CD's or Sound Stories?
I love to listen to those even though I don't know everything they are saying.

I found a some mp3s on a Ryuichi Sakuma shrine. It might just be only Ryuichi sound clips/songs but there is one from a Sound Story:

Ryuichi Sakuma ~ Dedication (http://ryuichi.kachiky.net/music2.html)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on September 28 2005, 01:08 pm
I found a some mp3s on a Ryuichi Sakuma shrine. It might just be only Ryuichi sound clips/songs but there is one from a Sound Story:

Ryuichi Sakuma ~ Dedication (http://ryuichi.kachiky.net/music2.html)

thanks a lot i love Ryuichi he is totally cute! ;)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on September 29 2005, 01:33 pm
You're right, Yuki-chan. The download doesn't work. :sweatdrop: Gomen....
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on October 16 2005, 01:56 pm
do u want to know a story that all gravitation fans will be mad about  :angry:, well at least it made me mad  :angry:  (is about something that happend to me) :

I lend my DVD of gravitation, where i have the complete tv serie and the ovas to one of my friends two months ago or soemthing like that, so after 2 months she gave me my dvd back one week ago so i asked her if she had liked the serie, you would never guess what was her answer, she told me that it was the worst serie she had nerver seen before.
i was like what i almost thought that she was just kidding me but she was serious then she continue complaining about the serie, like this:

my friend: it was horrible, about two men in love, seriously what were u thinking when u downloaded this serie? i only saw the first 3 episodes because i thought it was hopeless to waste my time on it.
Me:  u most be kidding Gravitation is a great serie, only because is about two men falling in love it doest mean that is bad or wrong
my friend;  thats your opinion not mine. two man falling in love thats just to wrong.
Me: really? so tell me whats wrong about it?  is love right? so what could be wrong about falling in love with someone?
My friend:  i have nothing against love, but i'm against man-man relationships.

well it was something like that i don't remember very well. But i really got angry with her, i mean, is ok if she doesn't like the same anime series i like, but she said that about gravitations just because there were two man kissing each other,  :cussing:
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on October 16 2005, 02:04 pm
:cry: Oohh... That doesn't make me mad... it makes me sad.

Gravitation is a good series, as long as you're open minded. Maybe she's just not used to it, but actually, Gravitation is the anime series that got me into shounen-ai, so I hold it in high respects. I think Shuichi summed it up in a scene from one of the episodes... when Hiro found him in the rain: "Is it wrong to want to be with the one you love?" Or something similar to that. And then he pounded his fist into the ground. Gaah, that was a touching scene... I still remember most all of it, even if I don't have the series with me anymore (I actually borrowed it from a friend too, hehe).
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on October 17 2005, 06:52 am
u are right as long as you're open minded is a good serie. but it made me mas what she said i just can't forget it "i'm agains man-man relationships". she is my friend but i'm still a little mad with her. i think that man-man relationships are not bad for example touya and yukito, kurogane and fye are cute couples there is nothing bad about it. as long as u truely love someone it doesn't matter who u fall in love with. if is with a man o women is love right?
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on October 17 2005, 12:22 pm
Exactly, cute_me! That's what I think too. Even though I've personally never fallen in love with someone of the same sex (^_^;), what makes relationships like that so precious is the fact that it doesn't matter what they are gender-wise... they just love each other for who they are inside. It's love without borders. And then the yaoi-type situations are an added bonus. ^_~ Ohohoho...

But I know how you feel too. I have a hard time telling some of my friends that I find these relationships cute and lovely. They'd look at me weird... O_o *sigh* If only they'd understand, ne? ^_^ I only know two other people who are into anime like Gravitation, and I don't even talk to them much.

(Heehee... This probably should go into the Shounen-ai and Yaoi thread! XD Ah well.)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on October 17 2005, 03:31 pm
i also have some friends like that. my best friend is one of them but it doesn't matter to me i also helped him to get a boyfriend they are such a cute couple! but i also have some friend that look at me a little weird because they are my friends and when they comment something abou my friendship with them i get really but really mad.
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on November 21 2005, 04:03 pm
Ahaa! I've finally found where to download Gravitation 2 chapters! (I stumbled across it while looking for yaoi...Ohohoho! ^.^)

http://aarinfantasy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4822

Chapters 56 and 57 don't work (I think ^^;), but 58 and 59 do. And I think they still update! =D

Oh, and you might have to join the forum like I did... But I don't plan to post there. I've found my perfect and permanent home at CapturedWings. ^_~ (Hopefully that doesn't disappoint anybody, lol! ^__^;;)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 21 2005, 06:06 pm
Kyaaa! HOSHIIII! Thank you so much for that link!! XD OMG OMG!!! Cookie for you! *gives cookie* WHOAH! When I gave you that cookie your sig and avi changed! XD It was MAGICAL cookie! Heh heh!

Anyway, yeah, I had to register to get it, and I'll probably start posting there eventually, but I'm too busy right now! I only have time for CW, my top priority!

Thanks for the link, again! *huggles yooooou*
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on November 21 2005, 06:11 pm
Arigatou gozaimasu for the cookie, my twin!! *huggles back*

And they have so much more yaoi stuff there... It's quite amazing! The only thing is is the lack of KuroxFai.

Yeah, CW is my top priority too! :greengrin:
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: Sakaki on November 21 2005, 06:21 pm
Oooh, thanks for the link, little sister!!
I'll definitely have to check that site out. ^___^
*gives cookie*

And beautiful avatar and signature...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on November 22 2005, 05:37 am
THANKS!!!!!! i gave u one cookie thanks a lot
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 22 2005, 07:20 am
OMG you guys, track 61 made me SOOOOOOOOO mad!!!!!

Show content
Ryu-chan KISSED Shu-chan! OMFG!!! *cries* I'm a HUGE RyuTatsu and ShuYuki fan! How DARE Ryu do such a thing?!??!  At least it seemed more like he was trying to show Yuki he could rather than he wanted to for THAT reason.. Either way, I'm sad. Ta hasn't even been IN Gravi 2, yet... I want my Ta.... *sniff*

WAAAAAAAAARGH! *gnaws on Kuma plushie*
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: augustserenade on November 22 2005, 12:49 pm
Thank you for the cookie, cute_me! ^__^-

Ehh?! They have Chap 61 already?! O_o And he kissed Shuichi!!
Nani!?! >=[

Guess I gotta go download to steam more about it.

Edit: You're right!!! Gaah, Murakami always does situations like that! >_< It stresses me out, lol! And of course Yuki just haaas to go to Seguchi... grr... Even though I can't exactly understand what they're saying... ^^;;
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 22 2005, 03:41 pm
Thank you for the cookie, cute_me! ^__^-

Ehh?! They have Chap 61 already?! O_o And he kissed Shuichi!!
Nani!?! >=[

Guess I gotta go download to steam more about it.

Edit: You're right!!! Gaah, Murakami always does situations like that! >_< It stresses me out, lol! And of course Yuki just haaas to go to Seguchi... grr... Even though I can't exactly understand what they're saying... ^^;;

I know! Murakami ALWAYS has to make the most RANDOM crap happen.. It makes me SOOO mad! OMG!!! I also hate that Yuki doesn't even have the guts to stand up for Shu when that stuff happens... *sniff* Why oh WHY couldn't Ryu-chan kiss Tatsuha?!?! WHYYYYYYY!?!?!
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on November 28 2005, 04:39 am
just one question Gravitation is a yaoi serie/manga right? then what is the difference between yaoi and Shonen Ai?
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 28 2005, 10:41 am
just one question Gravitation is a yaoi serie/manga right? then what is the difference between yaoi and Shonen Ai?

Yaoi is more graphic, shounen-ai is just sweet cuteness! XD "Shounen" means "boy", "ai" means "love", but "yaoi" is an acronym for something I always forget meaning something like "no plot no climax no something no blah blah blah" (because yaoi is nothing but, well, you know! XD XD) If I remember/figure out the rest of the acronym, I'll post it here...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on November 28 2005, 12:52 pm
AkaiYuki thanks for making it clear. but just one more question shonen ai is like clamp series right? and yaoi is like Gravitation? am i right? i'm not sure if i get it correctly.
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: KawaiiHana on November 28 2005, 01:21 pm
just one more question shonen ai is like clamp series right? and yaoi is like Gravitation? am i right? i'm not sure if i get it correctly.

Gravitation is more lof a shounen-ai series basically for the reason AkaiYuki said...just sweet boyxboy stuff.

Yaoi has more of an "adult nature" >.> if you get my drift. XD
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 28 2005, 05:08 pm
AkaiYuki thanks for making it clear. but just one more question shonen ai is like clamp series right? and yaoi is like Gravitation? am i right? i'm not sure if i get it correctly.

Weeellllll, actually... Not quite.. You're close, though! This is kind of hard to explain...

As far as CLAMP goes, some people would say their shounen-ai content is only "hinted" so some people may and some people may not call it "shounen-ai" series... They may just call it a "slash" series, which means it's a regular series that can easily be perceived or changed around to be shounen-ai... (Though anyone who doesn't think Tokyo Babylon is shounen-ai is kind of crazy in my opionion...)

But Gravitation doesn't quite qualify as "yaoi".. Unless you're talking about the Gravitation Remixes, which DEFINITELY qualify as yaoi... XD Hmmm.... I guess to make it easier, shounen-ai is more limited to kissing while yaoi is... ummm... not so limited?? XD Heh heh, know what I mean?

Not to make this more confusing or anything, but really the term "shounen-ai" is hardly used anymore (at least in Japan) and there are tons and tons of words for both shounen-ai AND yaoi, but in America, the general fan consensus says "shounen-ai" for sweet things and "yaoi" for graphic things... ((But of course, to make it confusing, some say "BL" for shounen-ai, which stands for "boys love" just because "shounen-ai" is an obsolete term in Japan.. Which I find to be a stupid excuse as they're basically saying the same obsolete term in another language... Morons...))

These terms aren't 100%, but most people will know what you're talking about if you say any of the ones I just used...
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: cute_me on November 29 2005, 05:18 am
KawaiiHana and AkaiYuki thanks for explain it to me [cookie for both of u] i undertand now thanks :)
Title: Re: Gravitation opinion
Post by: AkaiYuki on November 29 2005, 02:59 pm
Gravitation is more lof a shounen-ai series basically for the reason AkaiYuki said...just sweet boyxboy stuff.

Yaoi has more of an "adult nature" >.> if you get my drift. XD

Ha ha, this is true!! XD

KawaiiHana and AkaiYuki thanks for explain it to me [cookie for both of u] i undertand now thanks :)

Ah, you're welcome and thank you! :3