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Title: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: lumizstar on April 15 2005, 02:44 am: Ok. Here's the discussion thread for the TRC characters, including speculations. Please be reminded this isn't the same as the favourite character thread. So....ype just stay on topic ^^ And have fun :P
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 15 2005, 06:56 am: Do you think Syaoran's going to die for Sakura near the end of Tsubasa? I can just see CLAMP doing it for an emotional climax....Syaoran dies to save Sakura's life, and she remembers everything from their past, and how much she loves him....but it's too late.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 15 2005, 06:59 am: I hope Syaoran doesn't die, that'd make all his fans really sad. But I agree about seeing CLAMP doing such a thing. So we can only see what the future brings for Syaoran, Sakura, Fai, Kurogane and Mokona.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: tornwings on April 15 2005, 12:36 pm: gosh if syaoran died. that would be the worst ending ever. it would be so sad. i'd cry my heart out. cause he's like sacrificing everything to get her memory back to her. but i'm hoping that when all the feathers are collected. she'll somehow remember him. and live happily ever after :D
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 15 2005, 01:48 pm: Wrote a fanfic about that... http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1942534/1/. Do have a look... :)

----Please put that in the fanfic thread/forum. Thanks :) (Or else people won't notice..lol)

Lumizstar

I've realised lately that Kurogane's starting to be fond of Sakura ever since they entered that new world (I read it as Pikkuru World, is there a proper way of calling this new world?).

SPOILER!!!
Notice that in chapter 73 that he practically held his breath, waiting for Sakura to cross the finish line and when she did, he ltes it out. That's interesting, seeing as Kurogane had always tried to hide his feelings.Â :keke:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 15 2005, 03:25 pm: imo: naw~kurogane's too loyal to tomoyo~~ :P i think that he's juz starting to open up li' by li' due to travelling with the group. it wont be surprising if he'd become more concerned about other ppl~~ :D i think thats the point that tomoyo wanted kurogane to realize~ :)

and bout syaoran's dying...any1 thought of the "other syaoran" in the glass-like pillar thingy? maybe he'll be the 1 to realize and risk his life to save syaoran & sakura...juz a guess~ :P coz its really difficult to pull out conclusions for him...imo there are only 3 endings for the "other syaoran":

1.disappear/die
2.merge & syaoran can see wif both eyes...i guess its possible, they might be halved fr the start
3.wandering somewhere....(thats the worst conclusion ::cliffhanger:: CLAMP juz loves this sortathings dont they~ :P )
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 16 2005, 01:15 am: Cherry Tiger, I love your fanfiction. It's worthy of appearing in the actual Tsubasa!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 16 2005, 08:17 am: that figure in the glass-pillar like thingy is syaoran??
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:31 am: Quote from: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 16 2005, 08:17 am
that figure in the glass-pillar like thingy is syaoran??

Yeah he is or Spoiler (a clone of Syaoran or so I've heard....)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 16 2005, 09:34 am: Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:31 am
Yeah he is or Spoiler (a clone of Syaoran or so I've heard....)

Yup, that's what I've heard as well~ *It's kinda creepy :sweatdrop:*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:36 am: Quote from: Lexi on April 16 2005, 09:34 am
Yup, that's what I've heard as well~ *It's kinda creepy :sweatdrop:*

I agree 100% XD It's kind of creepy having two around....I still wanna know who the guy with the monocole is >>; No one will tell me XD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 16 2005, 09:42 am: Um, are you talking about Fei Wang Reed or something...?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 10:00 am: Quote from: Lexi on April 16 2005, 09:42 am
Um, are you talking about Fei Wang Reed or something...?

Is that who he is?! Oh thank you for telling me....I've been trying to get someone to answer, I think it's him....does he have a girl who works for him?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 16 2005, 10:08 am: Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 10:00 am
Is that who he is?! Oh thank you for telling me....I've been trying to get someone to answer, I think it's him....does he have a girl who works for him?

Yes, he does^^ He's related to Clow Reed *obviously*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 10:21 am: I wondered why they looked similiar! I hope my questions aren't spoiling anyone else, I just wanted to know who he was...Ummm...What chapter do you exactly find out who he is? ^^;
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 16 2005, 10:34 am: I think you find out in Chapter 63. The evil chick says his name for the first time then.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 10:55 am: Oh, thank you for telling me ^^ I'll have to read that~
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 16 2005, 12:48 pm: Quote from: Cherry tiger on April 15 2005, 01:48 pm
Wrote a fanfic about that... http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1942534/1/. Do have a look... :)

----Please put that in the fanfic thread/forum. Thanks :) (Or else people won't notice..lol)

Lumizstar

Thanks, I think I will. Just that... where is it? (Sorry if I sound like an idiot or something...)

Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 16 2005, 01:15 am
Cherry Tiger, I love your fanfiction. It's worthy of appearing in the actual Tsubasa!

Thanks! But I hope that doesn't happen... I don't want Syaoran to die!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 16 2005, 05:18 pm: Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:31 am
Yeah he is or Spoiler (a clone of Syaoran or so I've heard....)
WOW! thx for telling me! ^-^ well us... that question has always crossed my mind wanting to know who that was.. and what the point of him was.. :-S.. still thinking...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 17 2005, 01:05 pm: Quote from: Cherry tiger on April 15 2005, 01:48 pm
Wrote a fanfic about that... http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1942534/1/. Do have a look... :)

Cherry tiger, your fanfic is too kawaii and sad at the same time~ :inlove: :cry: I love it!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 17 2005, 05:36 pm: It's great, isn't it? Even though it would be sad if Syaoran died in Tsubasa, it would be a really emotional ending....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 18 2005, 02:56 am: Quote from: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 16 2005, 05:18 pm
WOW! thx for telling me! ^-^ well us... that question has always crossed my mind wanting to know who that was.. and what the point of him was.. :-S.. still thinking...

I'm still trying to figure out myself, I really wanna know~
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Spirit0 on April 18 2005, 03:12 am: If Syaoran dies, I'll cry my eyes out :cry:. (And my Syaoran-crazy friend would absolutely die herself! XD)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on April 18 2005, 01:08 pm: tha
Quote from: Cherry tiger on April 15 2005, 01:48 pm
Wrote a fanfic about that... http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1942534/1/. Do have a look... :)

That was you? I loved that fanfic^^, it was one of my favorites.

I think...since there will only be 26 episodes of Tsubasa...and they have to end it somehow...ano..maybe he will die >-<
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 18 2005, 09:18 pm: Wah... never knew my fic was that good. @.@

Anyway, if it is only 26 episodes, I have this feeling that they won't show a couple of worlds that they visit. I'm sure it'll take more than one episode when they stay in one world. So if they don't animate when they're in one of the worlds, that would be a real pity... :(

About Syaoran dying... if he dies, Sakura should die, too! (Starts touching wood, hoping it never happens) I only want them to be together... @.@
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 19 2005, 02:28 am: 26 episodes....not nearly enough....maybe they'll leave it hanging so there'll be another series? Perhaps a character is about to die, and you only find out whether they survive next season?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 19 2005, 09:30 pm: I hope the 26 episodes only mean for the first episode and not the whole series... I want more of Tsubasa!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Kasumi on April 21 2005, 12:28 pm: NO!! Shaoran can't die!!!! if he dies then i'll travel all over to japan and kidnap the CLAMP group until they change the ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*breath* ok, im ok now ^^UUU

It would be such a deep and touchy feeling, but suicidal as well.... ^^UUU
let's hope if that happens, he comes back to life later!!!!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 21 2005, 03:25 pm: NO!!! he can't die! ahahhah.. i know he's not! :D... come on.. he's the protagonist... i know he won't! then the story sux if he does die!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 22 2005, 12:40 am: seriously, i dont think syaoran will die, he's the protagonist as said before...and TRC should be only a notch above CCS in toughness but nowhere near X or the other..erm...more "serious" series....they'll either make the ending a nice 1 or cliffhanging wif syaoran as the main chara(my guess)~~
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 22 2005, 04:16 am: Wow...my first post on this board certainly sparked off a lot of people....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 22 2005, 08:08 am: dude! i just remembered... know how someone said that that person in the glass-pillar like thingy was syaoran?? well i remembered i have a picture of both of them! and i didn't even know until now!! WOW!! it's the picture where syaoran stands in the water.. and the reflection is the one of him in the glass pillar thingy...

http://clampkingdom.2mydns.com:8080/clampimages/clampimage/wing/wing57.jpg

i'm not sure if they'll allow hotlinking.. but that's the link to where i first saw the picture...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 22 2005, 08:09 am: correct me if i'm wrong... is that the two syaoran?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 22 2005, 11:38 am: Yeah, I have that picture, too. I think it really is the both of them... just don't know which. (Lol!!!) I think the one below is our fake Syaoran, since if you look at it, his left eye is covered whereas Syaoran's right eye is blind. But the reflection thing... it's kinda cool!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 22 2005, 12:00 pm: syaoran (can see with left eye but not wif right eye), other syaoran (can see wif right eye *presumably, coz we nvr see him opening them* but probably not wif the left eye *itz juz covered, yet to confirm*)

thats y i thought that they might be connected other than looks *different side of the same coin?*

i forgot to add that the other syaoran looks younger....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pure Heart on April 23 2005, 10:49 pm: Thank you for the picture, i was searching her, thankies!!!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 24 2005, 03:13 am: so anybody knows what they'll do about the 'fake' syaoran?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 24 2005, 06:57 am: Don't know...there might be one of those things where u can't hurt the fake without hurting the real Syaoran....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 24 2005, 09:49 pm: that kinda reminds me of an episode i saw fr MKR.....

remote control the real syaoran *obivous fr the recent chapters...*, or is it possible that this works 2-ways depending who has a stronger will at the moment?....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 24 2005, 10:06 pm: Yeah! Maybe if the bad guys say stuff that makes Syaoran feel bad, he'll start to get weaker! Then Sakura can say something encouragfing to make him strong again!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 24 2005, 10:09 pm: another brainstorm juz pinged me~~or sakura's feelings will reach the "other syaoran" too? then he'll start to fight *mentally* against FWR and later, he'll rebel or something that might lead to his dismise or not....so it'll be like the "other syaoran" will save the gang...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 24 2005, 10:53 pm: Hmm..or the fake Syaoran will try to replace Syaoran and hurt Sakura...but will fall in love with her...then he and the feal Syaoran will fight over her....the fake will die and say with his dying breath;

F.S; She would have chosen you...you're the luckiest perosn in the world.
R.S; I know
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 25 2005, 01:08 am: O.O

Wow, I would've never thought of anything like that! Probably because there's still so much of mystery about this fake Syaoran that I'm waiting for more about him to be revealed rather than making assumptions (just like Fye).. But I like the idea though... :D
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AiKo on April 25 2005, 01:17 am: Are you sure his fake??? he could be Syaoran's other half since he could see with the right eye ^^;
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 01:18 am: No idea, I'm going from what other people r saying, I'm being a good gilr and not reading scanlations from the net!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AiKo on April 25 2005, 01:20 am: I just happen to encounter a pic of the "other" Syaoran in one site

<--- m not reading scanlations either
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 25 2005, 01:28 am: I feel so evil cause I'm reading the latest chapters off the net. But I do buy the mangas in the end... it's just that I'm too impatient. >.<

The thing about being Syaoran's other half... that's also another possibilty. Which is why I've been keeping my imagination mum about the whole thing... >.<
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 02:10 am: Hmm..if he's Syaoran's other half, what would happen if it was Syaoran's evil half? If the two combined, what would the new Syaoran be like?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AiKo on April 25 2005, 02:13 am: Hmm... the Syaoran from CCS??? (well... being cold at first then eventually warm up... dunno ^^;) m sure "that" Syaoran's not that evil
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 02:25 am: Nope, the Syaoran from TRC....but OMG...wouldn't it be cool if one was the CCS Syaoran and the other the TRC Syaoran! Kawaii!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AiKo on April 25 2005, 02:28 am: no no i meant that about
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If the two combined, what would the new Syaoran be like?
that's what i meant about Syaoran from CCS ^^;

But it would be cool if the two Syaorans (TRC and CCS) meet~ nyahn~ :cat:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 02:29 am: And CCS Syaoran could see TRC Sakura and miss his own Sakura...maybe Yuuko would have to transport him home? He could give her his sword....

Wow, we're good at this....meet the new CLAMP! (Except, I, for one, Can't draw for toffee!)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AiKo on April 25 2005, 02:33 am: aww.. that'd be kawaii~ :love5:

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Wow, we're good at this....meet the new CLAMP! (Except, I, for one, Can't draw for toffee!)
:haha:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 03:16 am: I'm not sure if TRC have already covered this, but you know Syaoran has no memories of who his real fmaily were?

What if he was made by the evil guy and sent out into the world to start off the chain of events that led to Sakura's wings appearing (you know, Syaoran excavating that temple place)

Imagine how Syaoran would feel...

(Don't shoot me if TRC has explained about his past, I'm only on book 4)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Spirit0 on April 25 2005, 10:49 am: This story just gets weirder and weirder... *refuses to read scanlations on the net* Ahhh, fake/ other half Syaoran... Too much for my poor brain X_X. I hope this story is happy in the end... *shudders* Thinking of a fake Syaoran kinda freaks me out...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: cardcaptor519 on April 25 2005, 03:31 pm: Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:31 am
Yeah he is or Spoiler (a clone of Syaoran or so I've heard....)

he (or it) is probably a clone of syaoran and will probably mess things up in the story later on...wat do u think?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on April 26 2005, 12:24 pm: The double Syaoran actually reminds me of Chobits... Where Freya wants to take Chii with her and get both of them to be deleted permanently, while Chii wants to be with Hideki and decides to stay, even if it may be painful for both Hideki and Chii.
Maybe when both Syaorans are going to be eliminated or something (assuming the real Syaoran is actually just the other half), the real Syaoran will decide to live on even if Sakura will never remember him, and the other one will either vanish or become one with the real Syaoran (like Rayearth where Hikaru accepts her darker self).

I doubt Sakura will ever remember Syaoran, but I have a feeling that at the end of the story, she'll say something like this:
"I... even with all the memories gathered, still cannot remember you."
"I know..."
I don't know how things will be if I can remember, but I know I am happy with what matters to me, what is here with me now!!"
"!?"
"I want Syaoran to be with me!Â Even if I may never remember what happened between us before, I still want Syaoran to be with me!" Sakura buries her face into Syaoran's chest.
"Yeah... I want to be with Sakura, too..." Syaoran holds Sakura in his arms...

Um... Come to think of it, this is kinda like Chobits' ending...

Hopefully, Syaoran and Sakura will travel the dimensions together even after the feathers are all collected, doesn't feel right for these five characters to go on their separate ways afterwards... an occasional visit may be nice if Sakura retains her power and sending post cards or letters to Kuro and Fai through wormholes.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Rlaine on April 27 2005, 12:25 am: The characters are truly different from the original series, well, some of them. For example Syaoran is much, much quieter than before.. Sakura is still her cute ol' self but she is.. more mature? Well obviously because of her age, but eh.

Fye is definately interesting. I want to see how he fights.. In the beginning of the anime, during the opening theme, he looks really happy battling them.. and he kicks his opponents funny. xD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 27 2005, 03:36 am: i was reading through this.. and someone said what if syaoran was created to do something.. and i forgot where it was so i could quote it.. but then.. anyway... that reminds me of KH... how they were saying something about kairi being from that castle... if syaoran was made.. that's sad.. cause sakura's in love with a... fake!! :s.. sorta..
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on April 27 2005, 10:16 am: Quote from: Rlaine on April 27 2005, 12:25 am
The characters are truly different from the original series, well, some of them. For example Syaoran is much, much quieter than before.. Sakura is still her cute ol' self but she is.. more mature? Well obviously because of her age, but eh.

Fye is definately interesting. I want to see how he fights.. In the beginning of the anime, during the opening theme, he looks really happy battling them.. and he kicks his opponents funny. xD
Actually, they show you, in the manga, a scene where he fights. Remember Outo? When a bunch of ghosts were surrounding Fai and Kurogane, Fai finished them off with darts/ needles from out of nowhere... I think that was him shooting the darts anyway...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 27 2005, 12:33 pm: i juz cant wait to see fye use his magic again *if there is going to be*, coz so far, he's magician and we've only seen him use his power to travel the dimension once....

then there's kurogane: what'll happen to the curse set upon him? will he lose hiz strength eventually? *probably not i hope*

as for syaoran, i'm juz wondering if he's gona master his sword and thats all....maybe he has other types of "powers"? i mean....if he has a clone, it wont need to mean that he's normal as well....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on April 27 2005, 12:44 pm: In the manga, Arashi senses that Fai and Kurogane had lost something that makes them powerful. Syaoran then tells her that he never knew any magic or sword arts, and Arashi tells Syaoran that he might be the "lucky one".
Also... for Kurogane, his strength will not wane as long as he doesn't kill, and he hasn't killed anyone (the ghosts in Outo didn't count b/c they're just video game figures)
I'm more curious about whether Mokona will show all 108 techs before the end of the manga...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 27 2005, 01:00 pm: letsee...mokona can...transport the party to different dimensions, transport items to and fro fr yuuko's dimension, go "mekyou!!!", disguising, ....i forgot the others...ah...and eat an apple whole~!!

my theory: syaoran lost the relationship he had wif sakura but he didnt "lose" sakura, the person whom he'll risk life and limb to protect, so he remains strong~ :D perhapes what arashi meant as "strong" is the sense of self....to remain as oneself's for a great cause....

kurogane did want to kill seishirou reguardless if his strength wanes~ :P and now i wonder what tomoyo said when she placed the curse on kurogane...that if he kils "mercilessly", he'll slowly lose his strength......well, that can be another meaning~ :D
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 29 2005, 05:39 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 25 2005, 03:16 am
I'm not sure if TRC have already covered this, but you know Syaoran has no memories of who his real fmaily were?

What if he was made by the evil guy and sent out into the world to start off the chain of events that led to Sakura's wings appearing (you know, Syaoran excavating that temple place)

Imagine how Syaoran would feel...

(Don't shoot me if TRC has explained about his past, I'm only on book 4)

Anyone have any ideas about tbis?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on April 29 2005, 09:31 am: The idea of Syaoran actually being half of the whole reminds me of Chii, so a similar event of Chobits might appear toward the climax... maybe the other Syaoran will force himself to integrate with the one with Sakura, developing a schizophrenic Syaoran...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Tune on April 29 2005, 01:03 pm: well...i covered a little on this before, reguarding seishirou being good, evil or neutral.....coz i thought that seishiro might be helping FWR to guide syaoran to the "path" they planned.....

now i'm interested to know where this FWR guy lives....in which world?? fr my POV, it seems that clow country is the most likely since the ruins he seemed to have so much interest in is there *so is sakura's powers* as well as the appearence of those dark warriors fr the earlier chapters or episode 1 of the anime since he cannot travel dimensions....then again, he could have juz command a minion to dispatch them.....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 30 2005, 04:16 am: Quote from: Hira on April 29 2005, 09:31 am
The idea of Syaoran actually being half of the whole reminds me of Chii, so a similar event of Chobits might appear toward the climax... maybe the other Syaoran will force himself to integrate with the one with Sakura, developing a schizophrenic Syaoran...

Oooh.....that would be an excellent twist! Every now and then, Syaoran puts a hand to his head, grimacing...

And completely changes personality! It would be a good test of his friend's loyalty to him - maybe they could tie him up every time he switches personality, until he switches back?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Lexi on April 30 2005, 04:36 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 30 2005, 04:16 am
Oooh.....that would be an excellent twist! Every now and then, Syaoran puts a hand to his head, grimacing...

And completely changes personality! It would be a good test of his friend's loyalty to him - maybe they could tie him up every time he switches personality, until he switches back?

XD, that would be terrible! I mean to tie him up when he switches personality XP *unless he's compltely whacko and wants to kill everyone o.o*

The whole idea about there being two Syaorans does remind me a lot of Chobits. But, I'm sure CLAMP will not make it completely like Chobits - they may have surprises for us...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 30 2005, 04:43 am: Quote
XD, that would be terrible! I mean to tie him up when he switches personality XP *unless he's compltely whacko and wants to kill everyone o.o*
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That might be it....he could keep attacking Sakura, trying to capture her for the evil guy - Fai and Kurogane would have to stop him without hurting him....but he would feel so guilty about whta he's doing...

(Syaoran stands out in the rain. Fai goes to get him)

F: It isn't good to get wet, Syaoran. You might get sick.
S: Good! If I'm ill, then I can't hurt her!
F: Hmmm....
S: I can't stop it, Fai! I came on this journey to help save Sakura, not harm her!
F: And Sakura is grateful for that. I'm sure she can look past these mishaps...
S: I need some time alone.

(Syaoran runs off, almost crying. Fai can only stand and watch him go.)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 30 2005, 08:23 pm: Wwhat if he then comes back all quiet, and doesn't speak to anyone. A sort of gloomy air fills the room...then Syaoran announces:

S; I've become a danger. I only hinder the mission, instead of aiding it. Fai, Kurogane, Mokona...I leave Sakura in urÂ Â hands.
Sak: Syaoran-kun, what are you talking about?
S: I'm leaving the quest. You won't be seeing me anymore.
(startled gasps)
F; But Syaoran, where will you go? You have nothing to give Yuuko?
S: I will remain in this world, where I can harm nobody I care about....perhaps one day I will be able to release myself from this pain....
Sak: Syaoran-kun! (hugs him tight) Don't talk this way! You can't leave!
(He gently pulls her from him)
S; I'm sorry Sakura....(he walks away. Looking back at the house, he whispers under his breath...)

S: I love you Sakura, and I always will....

Of course, he'd appear again much later in the manga...just when everyone thought he really was gone forever.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on May 04 2005, 11:26 am: Etto... hoe? For some reason, I don't think Syaoran's the type to give up so easily. I think he'd try to overcome this weakness, rather than submit to it... but that's my opinion.

Here's something a friend of mine pointed out. It could be true that Sakura would fall in love all over again with Syaoran, but what if the thoughts of that unknown person trouble her too much, and that makes her hesitant? I thought she had a point...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 05 2005, 01:29 am: Hmm....and there's not any way for her to regain those memories is there? Unless...Yuuko never said that the prices were permanent....perhaps everything will be returned once Mokona is given back?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on May 05 2005, 06:07 am: The price IS permanent...
She CAN, however, return what they give her, provided that they are able to give her something else of equivalent value.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 05 2005, 06:45 am: Quote from: Cherry tiger on May 04 2005, 11:26 am
Etto... hoe? For some reason, I don't think Syaoran's the type to give up so easily. I think he'd try to overcome this weakness, rather than submit to it... but that's my opinion.

Yes....but even heroes need to find their purpose and strength sometimes....

What do you guys think about this idea...the Syaoran in the tube...is the 'real' Syaoran....the couple are in an alternate dimension, afterall...it could have a diff time flow.

Syaoran could have been released to carry out a pre-thought out plan...everything that's happened is according to the evil guy's design.....maybe that's why kid Syaoran doesn't have a past...bcos he was just a creation.......
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Cherry tiger on May 07 2005, 03:34 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on May 05 2005, 06:45 am
Yes....but even heroes need to find their purpose and strength sometimes....

I suppose... but the thought that Syaoran would leave Sakura just because he might have caused her to be in that position... I think he'd try to fix it rather than run away. Besides, Fye and Kurogane would definitely stop him from doing anything drastic. :D

Whereas for this "other Syaoran"... I'm keeping mum about it. I have my ideas but each as ridiculous as the next. I'll leave it to CLAMP to reveal it.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: eiji on May 07 2005, 12:41 pm: I feel that the "Syaoran in the tube" is Sakura's memory of Syaoran.

So Yuuko and that other guy were at it all along!

*rolls over*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on May 09 2005, 12:35 pm: I just got the info from a Chinese site...
It says that when the "Other Syaoran" is beginning to awaken, Syaoran feels something odd with his right eye... Maybe CLAMP is going for the integration (or it's just my wishful thinking...)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 10 2005, 04:46 am: Ooh...could his missing eye have been the one that formed the other Syaoran?

This may sound thick...but what's integration mean? Is it the two meshing together?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Xiao_Lang on May 10 2005, 07:33 pm: I think possibly Sakura will not re-gain her memories but instead will fall in love with Syaoran all over again, of course, it would be so sad and emotional if she only realised after Syaoran dies.

Just like in the 2nd CCS movie when Syaoran says 'Even if I loose this feeling... I'll fall in love with you again'
perhaps the roles are reversed and it is Sakura's turn to do this. Even though she forgets she falls in love with him again. Its plausable, she fell for him before, and he hasn't changed so it could happen. ^_^

that or somehow the deal id broken with Yuuko or another deal made. If Syaoran dies, do you think that would be enough to break the deal?

hhmmm *ponders*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Hira on May 11 2005, 07:01 am: I don't think CLAMP intends a tragedy for the young couple...
Yuuko already gave the implication in XXXHolics that everything will be alright for them, so don't be depressed already... Not good for your health, you know.
"Setai Daijoubu!"
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Xiao_Lang on May 11 2005, 05:25 pm: Quote from: Hira on May 11 2005, 07:01 am
I don't think CLAMP intends a tragedy for the young couple...
Yuuko already gave the implication in XXXHolics that everything will be alright for them, so don't be depressed already... Not good for your health, you know.
"Setai Daijoubu!"

XD of course, after all we want them to have a happy ending!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 12 2005, 03:14 am: We may want a happy ending, but CLAMP does do sad ones....I think it's likely that Syaoran will either die, or sacrifice something to keep Sakura alive...maybe he has a hidden power too - he's suffered so much and survived, after all....if he gave up his life force/power, would Sakura's memories be restored?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Xiao_Lang on May 12 2005, 06:53 pm: Quote from: Ruby Chan on May 12 2005, 03:14 am
We may want a happy ending, but CLAMP does do sad ones....I think it's likely that Syaoran will either die, or sacrifice something to keep Sakura alive...maybe he has a hidden power too - he's suffered so much and survived, after all....if he gave up his life force/power, would Sakura's memories be restored?
agreed. Thats why I said it might be a beautiful but sad ending.

maybe, even though Syaoran will die, it will still be a happy ending... it is possible.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 13 2005, 03:43 am: Yes....if he dies, and Sakura remembered...her power could shine and save him? You know, bring him back to life?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: windytree on May 17 2005, 01:29 am: no..not a clone of Syaoran!! i love Syaoran and Sakura tooo much! The idea of anything preventing them from bein happy together is just too painful to think about...

but... in the ending song, you see big Sakura hanging out with little Syaoran, and you see Big Syaoran with the little Sakura... could it mean Sakura after forgetting her memories falls for the clone and Syaoran is left with only his memories of when they are small? (NO that can NOT happen!) Also in the ending song, Sakura and Syaoran embrace :hello2: in a place where the earth is broken up and time no longer exists (implied by the broken hour glasss maybe)........

or..have you guys seen Fushigiyugi? In that series the lead guy has a clone too, who causes so much drama for the lead girl and guy as the clone literally tries to take over! Though it ended good because the girls love was able to reach the real Tamahome and gave him the power to absorb the clone, or in other words combine with the clone to become WHOLE....? So maybe Syaoran in the end gains the power to become whole by absolving the clone into himself! (he's right eye is fixed then)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on May 20 2005, 08:28 am: Oooooh, nice speculation! ^_-

That would be so cool though! If the clone (god forbid) were to morph with Syaoran! *animorphs theme song plays*

I thought that the ending song symbolised there memories, like how they would always cherish there memories when they were younger! ^^"
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: ~Jayitized~ on May 21 2005, 09:36 am: Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 16 2005, 09:31 am
Yeah he is or Spoiler (a clone of Syaoran or so I've heard....)
spoiler ------>i think its a different world....and its the world where syaoran sees syaoran, and sakura sees sakura oO sorry if im wrongÂ :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on May 22 2005, 11:39 am: Ive got a question about syao-kun...
His right eye. Is it real? or is it prothsetic(sp?)...er, fake? I mean, he feels pain from it sometimes
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like in vol. 9, when that evil guy started controlling Syaoran's other side
, but if it was real, wouldn't it be milky white because he's blind?
confused...help :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 27 2005, 01:11 am: Ii think it's real, but not milky white because...? I'm not really sure, but I think it's because the eye wasn't that damaged, but Syaoran still lost his sight?

Plus, milky eyes are really hard to draw in manga...so most are only put in anime versions of the manga.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on May 28 2005, 02:00 am: true, they do show it whitish sometimes.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 31 2005, 05:35 am: Do you thikn it would be possible for Syaoran to fall for someone else? As well as Sakura I mean. If they picked up a traveling companion along the way (girl) and they got closer...Syaoran could end up torn between the girl he may have a future with, and the one who will never remember him....

Then Sakura could start to get jealous....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Kitsune-chan on May 31 2005, 06:21 am: I don't really think so. How do you say it...Syaoran practically lives for Sakura? :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on May 31 2005, 09:28 am: I'd laugh if I saw that! Sakura jealous is somthing to look forward too! But I highly doubt it, the guy is so in love with her, its.........................AMAZING! LOL
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on May 31 2005, 12:21 pm: *nods* that's true love ^^
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on May 31 2005, 09:22 pm: Yup...but I didn't say he didn't love Sakura anymore...he just grows attached to another girl as well...afterall, you can't control what your heart feels.

*dies under sea of corniness*

And he could still choose Sakura in the end.....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on June 01 2005, 12:58 pm: Of course, Sakura did the same thing with Yukito...cept she was turned down. *shakes head* Bad example >.<

But Syaoran and Sakura are destined, *dances* But I'd love to see a love triangle though ^^
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pikari on June 02 2005, 12:19 am: Ooh, so many speculations about the 'other' Syaoran. I really can't say myself, so I'm not gonna try to guess, but I'm surprised no one's mentioned the 'other' Syaoran's tatoos yet. Any ideas on that? If they're similar to Fay's in that they help seal or control magical powers, perhaps that means Syaoran has the capability to use powerful magic, but he's just being prevented from doing so by the Reed guy. *ponders*

Hehe... a love triangle would be cute. Maybe with a big misunderstanding and everybody getting jealous. I really don't believe Sakura or Syaoran would seriously go after another person, though. They're destined, of course. ^^ But more than that, they're in love. ^__^
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on June 02 2005, 04:27 am: Yuppers, I agree, but I seriously miss the old days in CCS when Syaoran would go red! and.......I just miss it in short ^^
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on June 02 2005, 05:29 am: Yup! Although it's cool to see such a calm and collected Syaoran, we want flustered blushes!

I'm still going with the fact the Syaoran and clone are one and the same - diff worlds have diff time flows, so it could be possible.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pickthelock on June 05 2005, 02:45 am: Yeah Yukito and Toya were talking about how they were destined. Sakura just needs more memories so she doesn't fall asleep all the time!

I seriously doubt Syaoran would fall for someone else after all that feather searching. I mean, she wont remember their old relationship, but they can still *have* a relationship can't they?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sya0ran on June 05 2005, 03:01 am: How kawaii!! All this talk about lovee triangles and stuff. I miss CCS!Syaoran now. ;__; xD I doubt anything will get in their way of true love. Come on, if they both lost their memories then I know for SURE that they'll end up falling in love again. ;P

Seeing Syaoran with someone else besides Sakura is cute but I highly doubt Sakura would get all jealous. Geez, you guys have seen the anime and none of the characters barely blush except for that bad guy turned good. o__O;; Syaoran being all jealous and flustered....ahhh....I'm all "hanyan" just thinking about it. :inlove:

Rofl. Hmm...I noticed the tattoo thing too. Not sure what to make of it but all of your introspectives is driving my brain wild. So many theories and stuff, how cool!! xP Oh and yeah they can have a relationship...well, at least I think so. e-e;; Either way, they'll love each other to no end. We all know Syaoran would do ANYTHING for Sakura [sighs dramatically] and Sakura the same. :heh:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on June 05 2005, 04:31 am: Yup! Destined people tend to do that, LOL. You know what I wanted to see in the beginning of TRC, how Syaoran fell in love with Sakura? I mean, did he run away, or something.

Also, I think CCS!Syaoran is so much more different then TRC!Syaoran. I mean, usually, Syaoran has something against small talking 'plush toys' but him and Mokona are so friendly. LOL, do you guys agree?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pickthelock on June 05 2005, 12:52 pm: Oh yeah! I knew from the begining that TRC Syaoran and CCS Syaoran were totally different though. *shrugs*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on June 07 2005, 03:16 am: Yup! They were introduced totally diff....we had a cold Syaoran in CCS slowly opening up...but we started with a warm Syaoran in TRC with flashbacks of a cold past.....

When does the clone thing happen? Because I wanna test my theory that it's a past version of Syaoran...it would explian his alck of memory, and the diff time flows of dimensions would explain it.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: svr on June 11 2005, 11:37 pm: ok so ppl want to see Sayaoran... but wats the point in Sayaoran in the end of the series? its more dramatic towards the middle if she does recover her memeries because Sayaoran died to save her. den again dered be no point to the story rite? and since when was clow reed involved in Tsubasa?

silver out
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on June 11 2005, 11:40 pm: Clow Reed was Sakura and Touya's father...the old king before Touya took over after his death.

Syaoran's purpose...hard to tell, like any anime character. But I think if he dies, it will be at the end of the series, and something will happen to bring him back to life.

I know I will cry at the end though, because although Fai might go back to Clow with Sakura and Syaoran, I can't see Kurogane doing it...they'll be split up!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: S. Espoire on June 13 2005, 05:06 pm: you are a big Fai+ Kuro fan, aren't you? Well they are going to split up cause kuro is going to go back to tomoyo hime or else they wouldn't have started any kind of that pairing in the very biggening of the series. Maybe Fai's problems with Ashura will also b sorted out so you can't be sure whether he'll return to his own country or to clow.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pikari on June 14 2005, 02:59 pm: Quote from: S. Espoire on June 13 2005, 05:06 pm
you are a big Fai+ Kuro fan, aren't you? Well they are going to split up cause kuro is going to go back to tomoyo hime or else they wouldn't have started any kind of that pairing in the very biggening of the series. Maybe Fai's problems with Ashura will also b sorted out so you can't be sure whether he'll return to his own country or to clow.
Or perhaps he'll follow Kurogane to his Japan. Wouldn't that be cute? ^^;;; Heh.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: S. Espoire on June 14 2005, 03:58 pm: yes that would be very cute but if he does follow kuropuu to japan then I don't think he'll stay there cause he has his own country and his own story going on there but we cannot be sure.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on June 14 2005, 07:51 pm: ***Well they are going to split up cause kuro is going to go back to tomoyo hime or else they wouldn't have started any kind of that pairing in the very biggening of the series. Maybe Fai's problems with Ashura will also b sorted out so you can't be sure whether he'll return to his own country or to clow.***

Hmmm, I don't think that Kurogane and Tomoyo were ever paired. I think maybe Tomoyo and Souma would have been paired more than them.
I think Kurogane, being a Ninja, is sworn to protect one person above all and he was there to protect Tomoyo. His loyalty as a Ninja is why he wants to return home. Also I'm sure he wants to return home because he is used to being an unfeeling person, and to suddenly start to have feelings for the people he's with is very different for him.

I think that there will come a time when Kurogane will not want to go back to his world. I also think that Fai will not want to return to his world ever.

I'm hoping that they stay together.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: S. Espoire on June 15 2005, 01:56 am: Yes they should stay together but won't fai have to go to his world for atleast once for the sake of the story?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on June 15 2005, 04:46 am: Yup, but probably with the gang, so we get more of a plot out of it. I agree that Kurogane and Fai will prob not go home.......Kurogane was sworn to PROTECT Tomoy, not love her....if you notice, he only mentions serving her, or getting her to remove the curse. He never says anything about feelings for her.

Souma had a crush on him though, didn't she?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on June 15 2005, 01:05 pm: ***Yes they should stay together but won't fai have to go to his world for atleast once for the sake of the story?***

I think that could happen. Like Ruby Chan says though, I think they'll all be together if that happens.
Can you imagine the look on Fai's face if they suddenly appear in his world?! I think Ashura has a feather. I mean think about what happened in Fai's country right before Fai left.
I'll bet Ashura has a feather and Fai will have to go and face him.

I could see them landing there and Fai wanting to run.
Not wanting to get the feather.
But he will.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on June 15 2005, 01:26 pm: oooh, a plot twist :greengrin:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: S. Espoire on June 15 2005, 07:05 pm: Quote from: Sakaki on June 15 2005, 01:05 pm
***Yes they should stay together but won't fai have to go to his world for atleast once for the sake of the story?***

I think that could happen. Like Ruby Chan says though, I think they'll all be together if that happens.
Can you imagine the look on Fai's face if they suddenly appear in his world?! I think Ashura has a feather. I mean think about what happened in Fai's country right before Fai left.
I'll bet Ashura has a feather and Fai will have to go and face him.

I could see them landing there and Fai wanting to run.
Not wanting to get the feather.
But he will.

Wow that will be great. I hope that really happens.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: jovi206 on June 26 2005, 04:10 pm: Oh my gosh it would be cool if they they that. It would make a great story as well as give us more information on our mysterious fai.
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Post by: Sakaki on June 26 2005, 05:17 pm: ***Oh my gosh it would be cool if they they that. It would make a great story as well as give us more information on our mysterious fai.***

It would be cool!
I'm going crazy wondering exactly what went on with Fai before we met him.
I have all these ideas and scenes and I want to know if they match up with what they are planning!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on June 27 2005, 05:57 pm: Interesting idea...maybe Ashura isn't a bad guy? If Fai's magic spiralled out of control for some reason, he may have been the one who killed all those people you see in the manga, and maybe had to seal Ashura to save him from the wounds he'd inflicted?

Or...*gasp*...Fai isn't as nice as he seems, but is really an agent of the evil guy.

Last thought very improbable, and I hope that it doesn't come true.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Princess Kakurine on June 29 2005, 10:33 pm: guys, may i ask who is Fei Wang Reed :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on June 30 2005, 04:21 am: the evil guy in tsubasa, lol :sweatdrop:. The guy who wants Sakura's feathers to control the universe
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Princess Kakurine on June 30 2005, 10:55 am: ok, thanks! :noteworthy:
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Post by: jovi206 on July 02 2005, 07:13 am: Ahhhhhhhh! Ruby chan please don't say that . I twould break my little itty bitty heart ok so no it would not but Fai just can't be evil he can't! Can he?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 05 2005, 06:30 am: I doubt it, but if you think about those little looks he gets every now and then....
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Post by: Sakaki on July 05 2005, 06:43 am: ***I doubt it, but if you think about those little looks he gets every now and then....***

Maybe a SPOILER here.

That just made me think, you know how when Seishiro showed up in Outo at the Cafe? Fai told Mokona to wait with Sakura, knowing that Mokona would protect Sakura (by transporting her probably) if she was in danger.
Fai then had the short conversation with Seishiro and then was attacked by the demons and didn't do anything to save himself.

What if Fai had actually known that the world wasn't a *real* world?
Would it have been within his powers to know that somehow?
I just wonder if someone who had such magic would be fooled by something like that.

Maybe as they travel there are little things that he is aware of.
Things that even though he doesn't actually use his magic, his intuition can sense.

I don't think Fai is on the bad side.
I think the looks that he has are mostly looks of surprise because he is beginning to realize that Kuro-chan has been on to him the whole time and eventually he's going to have to tell what happened with him and his world because it will have something to do with Sakura's feather.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 05 2005, 06:48 am: Good theory....although I think the reason Fai never protects himself is because he's teetering...he's not suicidal, but he's not really sure of how much he wants to live. The guilt/pain of his past is eating away at him, and I'm beginning to think that we may have the opportunity to see a more bitter Fai at some point in the manga.

He may not be evil, byt he has some mega issues...and those problems are going to rear up and bite him soon.

Yes folks, pychologist Ruby Chan is in until Thursday! Thankyou!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 05 2005, 07:00 am: ***Good theory....although I think the reason Fai never protects himself is because he's teetering...he's not suicidal, but he's not really sure of how much he wants to live.***

I think so too.
That reminds me of the chapter opening picture of Fai sitting on the top of the clock tower leaning frontwards over the edge. Symbolic, ne?
That is probably a part of Fai that Kurogane has a really hard time understanding.

Fai is extremely complicated, guess that's why I'm so obsessed with him.
I want to know exactly what he's thinking.
Looks like it will be a while though before we get to really see what happened before they met.
I have plenty of ideas though.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: jovi206 on July 06 2005, 11:37 am: Hmm i think that fai has his issues too.
***Good theory....although I think the reason Fai never protects himself is because he's teetering...he's not suicidal, but he's not really sure of how much he wants to live.***
This version is a good one.eventually Fai as you all say will come to boiling point so to speak and when that happens it's going to be really cool and interesting......
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 07 2005, 05:00 am: I predict a Fai explosion, with magic going out of control. Or a total breakdown.
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Post by: Sakaki on July 07 2005, 06:28 am: ***I predict a Fai explosion, with magic going out of control. Or a total breakdown.***

Me too.
I think he's been holding it all in for so long that he's bound to have some sort of episode. Hope Kuro-chan will be there to snap him out of it.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 07 2005, 06:30 am: Just a thought...if Fai really is teetering...do you think an event relating to Ashura (maybe they go back to Celes by accident, and see the imprisoned king?) could push him over the edge, and he does something stupid like stand at the edge of a cliff, wanting to jump?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 07 2005, 06:39 am: ***Just a thought...if Fai really is teetering...do you think an event relating to Ashura (maybe they go back to Celes by accident, and see the imprisoned king?) could push him over the edge, and he does something stupid like stand at the edge of a cliff, wanting to jump?***

Yes.
What I think is that they will absolutely end up in Fai's world, at which time Fai is going to either totally freak and run, or become totally mute.

I think maybe he already knows that Ashura has a feather, or it's occuring to him.
He will realise that either he is going to have to face Ashura to get the feather, or he will feel that his fear of Ashura will prevent him from getting it and maybe try to leave the others, this may be he breaking point.
I don't know, I have plenty of ideas on this. But I think they do have to end up in Fai's world at some point and Fai has got to go against Ashura.
It'll all come out then.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 02:16 am: lmao XD
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Yamazaki's an announcer in TRC!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 08 2005, 08:09 am: Okamirei, that's a good spoiler.
I must not be to that part yet.
I'm going to have to buy book 10 so that I can catch up.
I haven't even gotten to see Kuro-tan's car yet.
Anyone want to show me a scan of that?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 12:06 pm: sure, hang on^^
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Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 12:15 pm: here's a small scan..I'll try and find a better one
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/okamirei/scan1.jpg
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 08 2005, 12:23 pm: Oh, thank you so much!
Kuro-pi looks so angry in that picture. :lol:
Do you know what Fai said to him?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 12:30 pm: Announcer: It's these two first-time racers!

The "Tsubasa Model" and the "Kurotan Model"!!

Kurogane: The h*** were you thinking, naming my car!!

Fai: I was thinking that a cute name would be best! And Mokona picked mine.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 08 2005, 12:35 pm: Thanks! Have a yummy cookie for being so helpful!
I have to get my hands on the next book.
I feel so far behind.

Maybe we'd better get back to the character discussion.
Fai is so interesting, but does anyone have any ideas about Kuro-chan and when and if he will decide to go on with them instead of stay in his own world?

Personally, I think that will be the test. Fai will have to decide to face Ashura to help his friends. Kuro-sama will have to decide not to return or not to stay in his own world but to travel on with his friends in order to help them.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 12:39 pm: thanks for the cookie :keke:

hm...I agree with you Sakaki-sama. Though I wonder if Souma will get a bigger part in the future, when they go to Kurogane's world. Perhaps she'll be working for Fei Wong? =o lol
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 08 2005, 12:58 pm: ***Though I wonder if Souma will get a bigger part in the future, when they go to Kurogane's world. Perhaps she'll be working for Fei Wong?***

Or perhaps she's that world's *Tomoyo* type character.
Maybe she feels the way about Princess Tomoyo that CCS Tomoyo felt about Sakura?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 08 2005, 01:18 pm: maybe, maybe.
Argh, CLAMP is so good at keeping suspense, lol.
I want to know more about Fei Wong...he looks a lot like Clow Reed's evil cousin or something XD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 02:36 am: Hmm....he could be...isn't his last name reed or something too? And he knows a lot about the feathers and Sakura....maybe he was an ancestor/brother who was exiled to another dimension with his follower sometime?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Alexiel on July 09 2005, 03:01 am: oh yeah... but i dont really believe that he was in another dimension... was he? in episode one when the underground passage was unlocked deepe after sakura touched it, the masked soldiers came out of nowhere. if he was from another dimension, and is wanting to claim the ability of traveling across dimensions, he shouldnt have been able to send those things right?

if you wonder why i say Fei Wong Reed sent them, if you look at teh symbol they have on their bodies are also teh same as teh one he wears
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 03:37 am: Maybe he used the unlocked power of the feathers? Sakura was fading into the symbol on the wall...perhaps that's the focus of his powers, and he was able to draw on her power through there.....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Alexiel on July 09 2005, 04:21 am: im not quite certain. i was kinda confused about that part but ehhh *shrugs*

and about that relation between the Reed's... uhh, how exactly are they related? in an explaination i mean, if anyone knows. I know the manga already revealed that they are brothers and whatnot but... well, what Ruby Chan said before i asked the previous question. lol
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 04:27 am: The manga said they were brothers?! Angelic-Essence, please use spoiler tags for things like that! I'm not reading the scanlations that much, so I didn't really wanna know that!

By the way, who is the girl who hangs around with Fei Wong Reed? Just an assisstant?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 09 2005, 04:27 am: I'm sure she's just an assistant...perhaps she was created by Fei Wong too?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 04:29 am: Do you mean like Fai created Chii? I'm not sure...she seems more real than Chii did.....but I'd laugh if at the end she was the mastermind behind all of Fei Wong Reed's work....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Alexiel on July 09 2005, 04:42 am: oh dear... lol, sorry, i didnt kno about the spoiler tags. :X (im using quick reply too) >.<"

as for the woman being created, i dont think it's that logical. lol, i havent seen anything so far that proves such a thought o.O
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 09 2005, 05:20 am: just do [ sp oil er ] --you spoiler here-- [ / spo il er] without the spaces :keke:

I mean, Fei wong created Syaoran's other....
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Alexiel on July 09 2005, 05:28 am: o.O he did? i thought maybe that Syaoran in the tube was imprisoned for some reason. *just a thought*

and did anyone happen to come up with any theories about how they are connected? the 2 syaoran's i mean. ^^
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 09 2005, 05:32 am: we've been discussing it here^^
http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=823.0
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 05:32 am: Check the speculations topic. There was huge discussion going on there about that. And there's a topic in the manga section about the 2 Syaorans too, I believe.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Okamirei on July 18 2005, 02:26 pm: I wonder if Kamui or Subaru will ever show up in TRC...they seem to be pretty important in in the other mangas
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Sakaki on July 18 2005, 05:11 pm: I'd love to see Subaru come into it.
Ah, poor Subaru.

I also think Watanuki may have a bigger part in it later.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 26 2005, 07:48 pm: Subaru probably will turn up, if we ever come across Seishirou again...he still has the feather, right? And since he's hunting Subaru and Hokuto...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: KirakiraInu on August 01 2005, 05:28 am: I wanna see Kamui too! I also want to see Subaru! Actually, at first glance, I almost thought Seishirou was Subaru cause I remember him looking kinda weird in X, what told me he was Seishirou was his blind RIGHT eye. ^_^'
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: moezychan on August 22 2005, 09:47 am: Reading this gave me a few ideas as well. We all know that Syaoran is completely unaware of his past and that for some reason became blind in his right eye. This is my theory. Like Clow Reed, Syaoran was split into 2 people, but he wasn't the one who split his personality. I think that Fei Wong Reed separated his personality and the supposedly clone Syaoran is a part of the original Syaoran. That might also explain his right eye being blind. Syaoran was separated and he lost the ability to see in his right eye and that's why later in the manga Syaoran's eye hurts. The trapped Syaoran is actually a part of the real Syaoran.

This is merely a speculation.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: cute_me on August 27 2005, 05:17 am: it's hard to think that sakura will be able to remember his true love -syaoran- cuz in episode 18, they said that she wouldn't be able to remember him no matter what, how sad
poor syaoran,
syaoran i love u!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pikari on August 27 2005, 05:37 am: I kind of hope that Sakura doesn't get her old memories back. I think it'd be sweeter that way, having them fall in love all over again. If she gets her memories back it'll be almost like "Oh, I have my memories now and I have to love you because we're childhood friends." But if she doesn't, she'll love him for who he is now, and all that they've been through together and they relationship that they've built because of that.

Not that I don't think Sakura wouldn't completely love him no matter what happens... just that having her memories returned is almost too "perfect" an ending for me. But I'm sure I'll love CLAMP for whatever they do. o_O
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: KawaiiHana on August 27 2005, 02:12 pm: I totally agree with you there Pikari.
Having Sakura retreive her memories would seem a little too cliche.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: xOLight_AngelOx on August 28 2005, 02:58 pm: Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 15 2005, 06:56 am
Do you think Syaoran's going to die for Sakura near the end of Tsubasa? I can just see CLAMP doing it for an emotional climax....Syaoran dies to save Sakura's life, and she remembers everything from their past, and how much she loves him....but it's too late.
if that were to happen i would really cry alot

Future: * ;____; *
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on August 29 2005, 08:35 am: Quote from: Pikari on August 27 2005, 05:37 am
I kind of hope that Sakura doesn't get her old memories back. I think it'd be sweeter that way, having them fall in love all over again. If she gets her memories back it'll be almost like "Oh, I have my memories now and I have to love you because we're childhood friends." But if she doesn't, she'll love him for who he is now, and all that they've been through together and they relationship that they've built because of that.

Not that I don't think Sakura wouldn't completely love him no matter what happens... just that having her memories returned is almost too "perfect" an ending for me. But I'm sure I'll love CLAMP for whatever they do. o_O

Awe, if you put it that way, that's so cute I don't think she should get all her memories back, either! *steals some of Sakura's memories to make this happen*

Anyway, somewhere in here somebody said something like 'wouldn't it be sad if Syaoran died for Sakura in the end?' And yes, that would be very sad (and I hope it doesn't happen) but this one time I read somewhere that CLAMP picked S+S for this manga's lead characters because they were one of CLAMP's only surviving couples! XD So, wouldn't it be awful if CLAMP brought them back in Tsubasa so they could kill them, thus matching all of their other couples? XD XD (Yes, this is a joke, I don't think this will happen. *knocks on wood*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on August 29 2005, 09:37 am: Quote from: Pikari on August 27 2005, 05:37 am
I kind of hope that Sakura doesn't get her old memories back. I think it'd be sweeter that way, having them fall in love all over again. If she gets her memories back it'll be almost like "Oh, I have my memories now and I have to love you because we're childhood friends." But if she doesn't, she'll love him for who he is now, and all that they've been through together and they relationship that they've built because of that.

Not that I don't think Sakura wouldn't completely love him no matter what happens... just that having her memories returned is almost too "perfect" an ending for me. But I'm sure I'll love CLAMP for whatever they do. o_O

I totally, TOTALLY agree. I was just saying this in the speculation thread. Having Sakura fall in love with him again would be awesome, because it shows how they will love each other no matter what. Hmm, i think I understand the dimesion thing a little more now. Let me elborate :sweatdrop:

Sakura is sorta like a 'different' Sakura, compare it too Tomoyo-hime, and Piffle!Tomoyo, they are different people but have the same heart. Basically what I'm saying is that, Sakura may not be the same Sakura who was Syaoran-kun's childhood friend, however, she still is Sakura, and that Sakrua was always destined to be with Syaroan, because her heart feels attracted to him and loves him. It sorta make sense I think, and maybe, Sakura getting her memories back, wont be so predicatable as I though 0.o

Also, I wish there was more angst on their relationship too. I've been thinking how Syaroan might not want to burden her with the stress of knowing about their relationship. I think he even doesn't want to tell her, which is evident in the OTOU arc. However, I think he knew that even if he told her, that it wouldn't make much difference. I think if Sakura was to tell Syaroan she loved him, I doubt he'd embrace her or something, I think he might think that she's trying to make him feel better, and might not believe her. He probably thinks she's pitying her. I dont know if this will be true, but I'm just speculating :XD: Anyway, he might realize sooner that getting all of Sakura's memories isn't worth it, or at least I hope, and he might just stop, and accept the fact that Sakura doesn't need all of her memories, and she can make new ones, even with him. I think he might feel that in order to Sakura to love him, she has to be dependant on her memories, he might feel that he's not good enough, since Syaoran seems insecure I think. I think that would provide alot of angst, and make Sakura a strong character, I hope she doesn't break down and cry, but maybe try to show Syaoran how she loves him, and not because she needs her memories inorder too.Heh, I think I'm just rambling, but the idea of going all over dimensions, looking for one feather at a time, would take forever, so this could be a good alterante ending, at least to me >.<

I'm such a angst lover, its reallyÂ unhealthy XD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on September 01 2005, 05:14 am: [quote author=fisah link=topic=248.msg55722#msg55722 date=1125272247
Also, I wish there was more angst on their relationship too. I've been thinking how Syaroan might not want to burden her with the stress of knowing about their relationship. I think he even doesn't want to tell her, which is evident in the OTOU arc.
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It doesn't really matter, since she'd forget as soon as she was told anyway......but I agree with your insecurity thing. He's always felt that line between royalty and commoners, and has always been hesitant about what he should or should not do with her. How he should address her. How he should act around her.

As well as my angsty idea of the book ending with him dying either to save Sakura, or to give her back her final memory, I also think that an ending where everyone else is happy except for Syaoran would be a good one. One where he lets a future with Sakura pass him by....

LAST PAGE

Syaoran is standing among the crowd, staring up at the palace balcony above. Someone out of the picture is announcing to the citizens that the Princess of Clow is engaged. The next frame would shot a young man standing beside Sakura, his arm around her. Sakura would look down into the crowd, and have her expression turn sad as she sees Syaoran there. His expression is unreadable, and as she turns to talk to her fiancee, he melts away into the crowd.

The next time she looks, he's gone.

Don't get me wrong, I love the S+S pairing, and hope for a happy ending. I just can't help thinking that there is a lot of potential for angst, and a miserable Syaoran there.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pikari on September 01 2005, 06:05 am: Quote from: fisah on August 29 2005, 09:37 am
Sakura is sorta like a 'different' Sakura, compare it too Tomoyo-hime, and Piffle!Tomoyo, they are different people but have the same heart. Basically what I'm saying is that, Sakura may not be the same Sakura who was Syaoran-kun's childhood friend, however, she still is Sakura, and that Sakrua was always destined to be with Syaroan, because her heart feels attracted to him and loves him. It sorta make sense I think, and maybe, Sakura getting her memories back, wont be so predicatable as I though 0.o
Yes, I agree with you there, fisah! Even if Sakura doesn't have all her memories, she's still Sakura, and soulmates with Syaoran, no matter what world they are in.... kind of the way Touya and Yukito or Sorata and Arashi are always together in every different world.

Ruby-chan! I would cry if the manga had such a sad ending. I can't really see CLAMP doing that. I hope they give S+S a reasonably happy ending... and just give us a lot of drama and angst in getting there.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 01 2005, 07:16 am: Oh GOD Ruby-chan, that ending would be HORRIBLE! I'd cry, no doubt... I mean, I can see CLAMP giving it a sad ending, but not like *that*...Â Also, I'd kill the guy she's engaged to! CLAMP would be more likely to kill someone off than something like that, but it's so hard to picture either S or S dead! (I'm not even going to say what I'd do if they kill Kuro or Fai... *knocks on wood*)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: DoRKyLOo on September 02 2005, 03:15 pm: Goodness . . . That ending's way too sad . . . I can see how that can work for dramatic purposes and all, but too many people would be bummed out and quite possibly angry if Clamp tries to pair off Sakura with anyone other than Syaoran or vice-versa.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 02 2005, 03:16 pm: Quote from: DoRKyLOo on September 02 2005, 03:15 pm
Goodness . . . That ending's way too sad . . . I can see how that can work for dramatic purposes and all, but too many people would be bummed out and quite possibly angry if Clamp tries to pair off Sakura with anyone other than Syaoran or vice-versa.

Very true, especially anyone who's been long-time CLAMP or S + S fans (which I am, and I know many people here are) So I doubt they'd ever do it.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: charcoalz on September 03 2005, 02:46 am: Quote from: DoRKyLOo on September 02 2005, 03:15 pm
Goodness . . . That ending's way too sad . . . I can see how that can work for dramatic purposes and all, but too many people would be bummed out and quite possibly angry if Clamp tries to pair off Sakura with anyone other than Syaoran or vice-versa.
I AGREE TOO!!! =( S+S<3333 forever....=D
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on September 03 2005, 03:40 am: I'd like a sad ending too, but that one would be so depressing Ruby-chan :XD:, but there's no denying that there can be angst in the story, I like angst ^^. However, Syaoran is kind of like the person to just leave and let it be, rather than going after Sakura and demanding why she would marry that man, or how she could do that, etc, etc. Its just in his character to let other's happpiness come first than his.

I think, ad ending where one of them dies too is probable *though I dont want one T___T* as well, considering this is very 'shonen' compared CLAMP's other works, so a happy ending isn't as expected I think. I can even imagine a wounded Syaoran just dying, and him telling Sakura that he loves her, and her crying. *sniff* As much as I don't want that, I still think it can happen, especially with the angst rate in this manga.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 03 2005, 03:50 am: Angst is fun! I'll be happy with ANY sad ending as long as it doesn't involve any of my fav couples leaving each other. (Unless it's through death, cuz that's romantic! And that's not really *leaving* them) So basically, I'd like a sad ending as long as S doesn't leave S, or *twitch* Kuro goes for Tomo or Fai goes for Ashura... *twitch* (Even though I know Kuro and Fai prolly won't have anymore romance other than implications, I don't want 'em with anyone else either!)
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on September 03 2005, 03:59 am: Yes, death isn't as bad as being seperated, because when you leave each other, its willingly, and death isn't :XD: *disturbed by her optimism when concerning death*

Fai and Kurogane wont most likely leave each other *I hope* I doubt it since Ashura and Tomoyo hardly appear in teh manga, so yeah. However, them parting ways once everything is done and over with can happen as well >.< *sobs* S x S wont leave each other, Syaroan is in love with Sakura, and Sakura is way too dependable to leave ANYONE so I doubt that too. If anythiing, Syaoran just might leave to save her grief or something >_>
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 03 2005, 04:08 am: How would Syao leaving her save her grief? *eyes watering* C-cuz I don't want that to happen.... But the ending that would be bad for ME is Kuro going back to his world and Fai being a vagabond forever... But that is WAY to predictable... Either that or it's SO predictable that it's impredictable because everyone would think 'OH something that obvious would NEVER happen' and THAT will be when CLAMP strikes and makes the evilness HAPPEN! Oh GOD I'm too Kuro Fai hyper... *calms down* But the lyrics to Oruha's song implied otherwise anyway... "Take me to your land so I can be with you" *wink wink*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on September 03 2005, 05:19 am: Well, I think when she gets all her memories back, he might just leave, so she doesn't keep questioning about their relationship. Sakura is already sad that a 'complete stranger' who can possibly be close to her is fighting for her, and she can't remember him, so Syaoran might just leave so she can just forget about everything, and live her life again. Though, I still think Sakrua would tell him she loves him though :XD:

That would be evil if Kuro x Fai seperated, however, there has been many MANY implications, it would be stupid to just let them leave each other at the end, because that isn't angst, its pathetic. KuroFai deserve happiness as well :P
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on September 03 2005, 05:47 am: When it comes to Kurogane and Fai....I can't help wondering if Fai's past will come out at the end of their adventure, nearly, and he dies at Ashura's hands, protecting the others (especially Kurogane). Or maybe his magic will kill him slowly and painfully without his tattoo if he uses it to fight Ashura.....

But I don't want that! I want Fai to go home with Kurogane, and have Tomoyo make fun of Kurogane!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Pikari on September 03 2005, 06:09 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on September 03 2005, 05:47 am
When it comes to Kurogane and Fai....I can't help wondering if Fai's past will come out at the end of their adventure, nearly, and he dies at Ashura's hands, protecting the others (especially Kurogane). Or maybe his magic will kill him slowly and painfully without his tattoo if he uses it to fight Ashura.....

But I don't want that! I want Fai to go home with Kurogane, and have Tomoyo make fun of Kurogane!

Those were some of my thoughts, too. I have this feeling that CLAMP is going to give Kuro/Fai a tragic ending, because I think Fai is hiding a big secret that has to do with a feather, and its all going to come to a big climax eventually. And I admit, as much as I'd love a happy ending, I'm a suc.ker for tragic drama, too. XD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 03 2005, 09:24 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on September 03 2005, 05:47 am
When it comes to Kurogane and Fai....I can't help wondering if Fai's past will come out at the end of their adventure, nearly, and he dies at Ashura's hands, protecting the others (especially Kurogane). Or maybe his magic will kill him slowly and painfully without his tattoo if he uses it to fight Ashura.....

But I don't want that! I want Fai to go home with Kurogane, and have Tomoyo make fun of Kurogane!

O.o.... *dies*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fai on September 03 2005, 09:33 am: Quote from: Ruby Chan on September 03 2005, 05:47 am
When it comes to Kurogane and Fai....I can't help wondering if Fai's past will come out at the end of their adventure, nearly, and he dies at Ashura's hands, protecting the others (especially Kurogane). Or maybe his magic will kill him slowly and painfully without his tattoo if he uses it to fight Ashura.....

But I don't want that! I want Fai to go home with Kurogane, and have Tomoyo make fun of Kurogane!

If that happened I think I would have a split desicion about things..I agree that I want a happy ending like anyone else would for Fai and Kuro, but I also want a bit of drama and such. :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 03 2005, 09:34 am: DON'T KILL FAI! *cries* Pleeeease don't kill Fai, he's my only surviving favorite character in HISTORY! *sobbing*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Star on September 10 2005, 02:36 pm: How could you speak of THE Fai dying! (i would go into depression) AHHnoooo!!! (i would cry for weeks at least)
The only way he would possibly die is if i huggled Him to death!

But what if.....no..... I liked the secrets behind craked smiles ending that was really good something close to that would be awesome!!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 10 2005, 03:40 pm: *nods* I believe many people would prefer that ending over any ending CLAMP could ever think of... Since all of CLAMP's endings are evil...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Ruby Chan on September 10 2005, 05:41 pm: It would be wonderful if the Secrets Behind Cracked Smiles ending DID feature in the real TRC.......because I think that by that time Fai and Kurogane would have developed a lot, and all the readers would be happy to finally see Fai's past....

But it won't end like that. Too many CLAMP books have couples unable to be together, etc....so at best both Fai and Kurogane will survive, but be separated somehow.

Although thinking about it, I wonder whether Kurogane WILL die sometime, as he's the strongest character there....almost like he receives a wound protecting one of the group, and dies from it?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 10 2005, 05:44 pm: Kyaa, that'd be so sad if he were injured and didn't tell anyone in the group about it and died when everyone else is asleep and he's all alone and cold and in pain with no one to care for him and *sniff sniff* and *hiccup* Kyaaaa! *runs off crying to huggle Kuro* Wow I hope that doesn't happen...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on September 11 2005, 01:51 am: Dont want them seperated, no way. In my opinion, there way to unstable, they need each other, or else....the world will end...yeah *shifty*

AkiYuki-san, your making me...sad *sniff* *hugs Kuroii plushi*

Hey, did anyone noticed that from everyone the group, Kurokon and Fai are the closest? Its as if Kurogane trusts Fai the most, indirectly even, I love how they always get paired off with each other, it just rocks ^__^ Kurogane is opening up because of Fai, that is so adorable *sniff* Though I know all of you guys already know this, right?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: AkaiYuki on September 11 2005, 06:01 am: I know! They do seem close! It's so cute when Kuro and Fai have their "grown-up" conversations about the "kids"! (Sakura and Syaoran) It makes me soooo happy and warm and fluffy inside... It's like they're mommy and daddy and they take care of their cute little S and S. XD Kya, so cute!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: pierrot on September 21 2005, 05:11 am: what do you think about our bad guys? What is the mission of the girl assistent of Fei Wang?
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: fisah on September 21 2005, 09:42 am: I think they want the feather's power, seeing as lots of powerhungry people are always in possesion of it, at least, mostley >_>

I also think they want to manipulate Sakura and Syaoran into hurting each other, seeing as they dont mind them gettign closer, or winning all the battles, I have a feelings something big will happen, and if has to do with the Syaoran clone XD
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fye-chan on October 06 2005, 07:10 pm: I thought about that too! But I don't know whats the realationship between SyaoSyao and Fei Wong Reed. I mean is he his real father or his creator or only some evil guy from that SyaoSyao lent money...???

I hope they all will end together! I mean even when the evil is defeated and SyaoSyao+SakuSaku come together I hope it will be like:

SakuSaku: Syaoran before going home let's have many adventures and lets make many wonderful memories in other worlds!
SyaoSyao: Hai, Sakura-hime
SakuSaku: *punch* don't be so formal!!!
Fai: We're coming too!!! It's such fun!!! Right, Kuro-pon?
Kuro-pop:Errr why not...

in the version for the Fai+Kuro girls he would say:
Kuro-pon: I'll go wherever you'll go! *hug*
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: pierrot on October 06 2005, 08:17 pm: Quote from: Fye-chan on October 06 2005, 07:10 pm
I thought about that too! But I don't know whats the realationship between SyaoSyao and Fei Wong Reed. I mean is he his real father or his creator or only some evil guy from that SyaoSyao lent money...???

I don`t think that syaoran and Fei Wong have blood connection becouse Fei Wong Reed is offspring of Clow Reed and isn`t clow sakura`s father? so sakura and syaoran would be sibilings!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fye-chan on October 14 2005, 07:59 pm: But couldn't it be that Fei Wong Reed means another Clow... I mean perhaps he means the Clow from the CCS world (like Yuuko) and Sakuras father is only a pendant from that Clow too...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: pierrot on October 14 2005, 08:05 pm: Quote from: Fye-chan on October 14 2005, 07:59 pm
But couldn't it be that Fei Wong Reed means another Clow... I mean perhaps he means the Clow from the CCS world (like Yuuko) and Sakuras father is only a pendant from that Clow too...
I allways thought that Clow from TRC and CCS are the same person.
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Fye-chan on October 14 2005, 08:15 pm: It's hard to believe that even Clow (the same person) can exist in two worlds...
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: pierrot on October 14 2005, 08:48 pm: but maybe he doesn`t exist in any world and exists in all worlds(like Yuuko her shop is betwen worlds) so maybe he could control space and time (like Yuuko) and be sakuraś father and king in clow and magician in our world
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: kolaida on October 15 2005, 05:39 pm: Quote from: Ruby Chan on September 03 2005, 05:47 am
When it comes to Kurogane and Fai....I can't help wondering if Fai's past will come out at the end of their adventure, nearly, and he dies at Ashura's hands, protecting the others (especially Kurogane). Or maybe his magic will kill him slowly and painfully without his tattoo if he uses it to fight Ashura.....

That's pretty much my way of thinking, too. Being at the top of my fave characters list, Fai's pretty much doomed to a)death or b) character obscurity. Yes, one of those two has happened to every single character I have ever liked in books/mangas (Simon was my fave in Lord of the Flies and even he *sigh*). I will be highly surprised/pleased if Fai does remain healthy, though. And, I do think we won't find out much about his past until towards the end of the series.

I also agree with some others that have said they would prefer for Sakura to fall in love all over again with Syaoran. I think that would be really sweet. On Sakura's part, anyway. It might be a bit awkward for Syaoran, but it would be sweet to see him overcome that.

I'd be really surprised if Kurogane dies since the whole reason he was sent was to understand the value of people's lives (Tomoyo's insistence on unneccessary killing). Although, it would be kind of ironic. I could see it happening, though.

I could really manage if anything really bad happened any of these four, but it would be really weird if something horrible happened to Mokona! And weird! *hugs Mokona!* Mokona should always be happy and hyper!
Title: Re: [TRC] Character Discussion
Post by: Mimie on May 18 2006, 01:36 pm: Actually, I don't really think Kurogane will die in the end, because Tomoyo-hime did send him on a mission to find the true meaning of "strength" and she certainly knew the risk to that. Tomoyo may have a few screws loose but she's no fool to send Kurogane on a mission just to let him die in the end.

The possibility to a character death in my opinion, are all pointed to Fai. I mean, think about it. Isn't he the only character with no purpose at all after collecting Sakura's feather other than to travel from one dimension to another? I know, this is just tragic. Trust me, I really DON'T want Fai to die. Sigh. BUt knowing CLAMP, one or a couple more characters are BOUND to die in the end.

Here's how I picture the ending:

Fai badly wounded from Ashura's battle. Ashura dead. Fai loosing strength rapidly because of his uncontrollable use of magic without his tatoo. Kurogane holding unto Fai, not crying but expression unreadable. Then after a quick smile, Fai dies. And Kurogane claims to know now the true meaning of stregth.

Sound unrealistic? Well, blame it on the chocolate I just ate. ^_^