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Title: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 08 2006, 01:28 am
I don't know if there's a thread to discuss XXXHOLiC. I could only find ones for listing downloading links. I figured it'd be cool if we had somewhere to theorize/discuss the series that crosses over with Tsubasa!

(If there already is a similar thread, I missed it and you can go ahead and delete this, gomen!)

But anyway, one thing I and a friend have noticed is that all of Yuuko's customers thus far have been women. Do you think there's any special significance behind this, or is it just because CLAMP likes drawing pretty girls as opposed to pretty boys?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion
Post by: Capella on July 08 2006, 03:00 am
I read in some interview that Ohkawa looked back at their old works and noticed that all the customers for various people (Subaru, the CLAMP Gakuen Tanteidan) had been female, and so she decided to start doing it on purpose.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion
Post by: augustserenade on July 08 2006, 07:45 am
Yay, an xxxHOLiC discussion thread! ^__^

I read in some interview that Ohkawa looked back at their old works and noticed that all the customers for various people (Subaru, the CLAMP Gakuen Tanteidan) had been female, and so she decided to start doing it on purpose.

Oh! That's interesting! I'd never heard that, before Capella (and actually I never even noticed they've been all women o_o). Thanks for sharing  that. ^^ Though I have to say, that isn't very fair for any guys who want wishes granted. XD

As for me, I'm wondering
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what Doumeki giving half his eye to Watanuki did besides better his vision... Yuuko: "Splitting that right eye in half...didn't just improve your vision." Has CLAMP addressed the answer already?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Arcademan on July 08 2006, 10:39 am
There was a thread awhile back but it's been archived. Feel free to use this thread for any and all xxxHOLIC discussions, both anime and manga. Spoilers are allowed without using the spoiler tag escept on those mangas not released in the U.S. (Beyond Book #7)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 08 2006, 12:19 pm
As for me, I'm wondering
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what Doumeki giving half his eye to Watanuki did besides better his vision... Yuuko: "Splitting that right eye in half...didn't just improve your vision." Has CLAMP addressed the answer already?

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Doumeki can sometimes see things through the eye he half gave Watanuki.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 08 2006, 12:31 pm
Oh! That's interesting! I'd never heard that, before Capella (and actually I never even noticed they've been all women o_o). Thanks for sharing  that. ^^ Though I have to say, that isn't very fair for any guys who want wishes granted. XD

You're welcome (I didn't notice before I read the interview, either XD). It's in the CLAMP no Kiseki interview for CLAMP Gakuen Tanteidan, if you want to check.

I like XXXHOLiC, though I don't keep up with the current chapters. I really wonder what's up with Himawari, but I don't think that's likely to be revealed until the end. She's my favorite character, along with the Kuda-kitsune (darn, where can I get one of those things? I want one!).
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 08 2006, 02:03 pm
Speaking of current chapters does anyone know where to get scanlations of the current chapters?  Last chapter I read was read was when R!Syaoran showed up, which came out a while ago.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 08 2006, 02:11 pm
XXXHOLiC can be found at the same place as the Tsubasa scans - here (http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/), most Wednesdays. I think there are cleaned up scans elsewhere, but I don't know the link.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 08 2006, 02:50 pm
Speaking of current chapters does anyone know where to get scanlations of the current chapters?  Last chapter I read was read was when R!Syaoran showed up, which came out a while ago.
only up to ch 109 is scanslated. theres no translater anymore so no scanlations V_V
http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 08 2006, 03:00 pm
Ah, thank you. ^__^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 08 2006, 03:16 pm
ah. heres some good news (gotta tell senefan too ^^) the translation for 111 is avalable, and 110 will soon come out ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 08 2006, 07:37 pm
Speaking of current chapters does anyone know where to get scanlations of the current chapters? Last chapter I read was read was when R!Syaoran showed up, which came out a while ago.

Chou-addicted (http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/") translates the xxxHolic manga. You can find links to the cleaned raw scans and the translations at The Room of Requirement (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/tsubasa-holic/").
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 08 2006, 07:44 pm
Chou-addicted (http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/) translates the xxxHolic manga. You can find links to the cleaned raw scans and the translations at The Room of Requirement (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/tsubasa-holic/).
the urls came out wrong. you dont need quotes around urls in bbcoding
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 09 2006, 03:41 am
I added a poll, just for fun. Since this seems to be the dominant XXXHolic pairing in the fandom, I thought I'd get everyone's opinions on it.

I voted 'yes', since their relationship is easily the one going through the greatest change and the one that CLAMP focuses on the most! Also, Doumeki's so cute, always protecting Watanuki  :haha:

So yeah, feel free to vote and post about why you think it won't/will become canon.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 09 2006, 04:10 am
For the poll I voted 'yes', lol.

Chou-addicted (http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/") translates the xxxHolic manga. You can find links to the cleaned raw scans and the translations at The Room of Requirement (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/tsubasa-holic/").
Thank you ^__^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: mela on July 09 2006, 04:32 am
Watanuki/Himawari? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH. Sorry.  Even though I don't really SEE CLAMP making Doumeki/Watanuki canon (they practically are anyway), I think it's more plausible than Watanuki/Himawari. I see Yuuko/Himawari happening before Watanuki/Himawari.

But anyway, Doumeki/Watanuki is a really cute pairing, IMO. I love how Yuuko is practically a D/W shipper. I adore Yuuko.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 09 2006, 05:01 am
Oooh, I love polls! I voted for the last one. It's got huge amounts of stuff supporting it, but I'm not quite sure if it will ever be made really canon. Maybe it's just that I'm not into it. I like Watanuki, since he's so spaztastic, but also sensitive in a way. Doumeki, on the other hand, bores me half to death. Does he get more interesting past volume 7?

...Yuuko/Himawari would be SO AWESOME. XD They're gorgeous, crazy, and creepy! Not that it would make any sense whatsoever, but it would still be awesome. As far as I'm concerned, XXXHOLiC girls > XXXHOLiC boys.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on July 09 2006, 05:16 am
WatanukixDoumeki=<3
Doumeki, on the other hand, bores me half to death. Does he get more interesting past volume 7?

The first time I read books 1-6 I didn't like Doumeki much, (but I don't think I really read it that thoroughly, only to catch the TRC crossovers). But, when I re-read the series online the second time, to get up-to-date with the current chapters in Japan, I started to like him alot more
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Especially if you start to believe that Doumeki is totally in love with Watanuki XD If you think about the series in terms of that you get alot more depth and subtext, and you feel sorta sorry for Doumeki.. Makes him much more likeable though, I think..

But yeah, I think I'm just too militant when it comes to shipping~

I'm not sure whether CLAMP would ever make Doumeki/Watanuki canon (same with KuroFai) but you've gotta love Yuuko's teasing
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'specially the 'furyou'-ness in chapters 107 & 108
I suppose we'll have to wait and see. *sits back in armchair with some popcorn and a 104 flag*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 09 2006, 06:08 am
Yehp, personally I believe that Dou/Wata has a helluva better chance of happening than Watanuki/Himawari, but I'm not completely sure that it'll be made overly obvious :(

Yuuko/Himawari would be so awesome, in a nonsensical and 'why the hell not?' kind of way.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 09 2006, 08:01 am
the urls came out wrong. you dont need quotes around urls in bbcoding

Sorry about that. ^^;;; I'm not very familiar with bbc code yet. Thanks for the tip. :)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 09 2006, 08:08 am
Oh, Doumeki/Watanuki is an adorable pairing; despite their inability to see eye to eye (no pun intended) they really care about each other deep down. :) I don't know if it will be canon though, because xxxHOLiC is published in Yangan, and Clamp is kind of pushing the borders with their little hints. Yuuko is awesome--she's totally pushing the two of them together. ^_^

And, my theory, based off Chou-addicted's post on Ohkawa's interview regarding Holic, is
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there's got to be something about Himawari....and the series will probably end once we find out what it is.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on July 09 2006, 08:44 am
I voted for totally. ^^ I love DoumekixWatanuki/Dounuts/104... and all the other names they're called! X3

As for Himawari and Watanuki... o_o, I agree with the theory out there that Watanuki is more attracted to Himawari for her powers... like Syaoran was attracted to Yukito. Plus, I'm a DouWata shipper through and through! ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 09 2006, 02:32 pm
Has anyone seen the new ending yet for the anime? It's here on YouTube if anyone's curious:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_2MqX-d5I&search=xxxholic%20ending

It's... cute, and arguably more interesting to watch than the first, but it doesn't really fit the series  :tongue:. And Maru and Moro have no feet! Also liked it much better before Mokona jumped in. He just looked awkward lol.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 09 2006, 02:34 pm
Has anyone seen the new ending yet for the anime? It's here on YouTube if anyone's curious:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_2MqX-d5I&search=xxxholic%20ending

It's... cute, and arguably more interesting to watch than the first, but it doesn't really fit the series  :tongue:. And Maru and Moro have no feet!
ROFL that was wierd. i love "Mokona the drummer" part XD
dont like the song so much. Reason was better XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 09 2006, 02:40 pm
ROFL that was wierd. i love "Mokona the drummer" part XD
dont like the song so much. Reason was better XD

An hour ago I would have agreed, but I've watched this enough times now to find the song endearingly catchy, and I now prefer it to Reason (who knew I was so fickle, lol?)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on July 10 2006, 01:51 am
It's... cute, and arguably more interesting to watch than the first, but it doesn't really fit the series  :tongue:. And Maru and Moro have no feet! Also liked it much better before Mokona jumped in. He just looked awkward lol.

After watching episode 14 and seeing that ending, I agree with you that it doesn't really fit the series. X3 But it's still a cool song. Reason was "mellow," and this one is... "eccentric." XDD And I like Maru and Moro air guitaring.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 10 2006, 03:56 am
I like it too, it just isn't very XXXHolic-ey. Maru and Moro were cute though! And it looks like we're gonna get the twin story in more than one episode. I'm glad they didn't try to cram it all into one...

The twins' eyes look funny. Like, not very... alive.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 10 2006, 09:16 am
if their doing 2 epiosdes for the twin thing, most likly the next ep will be when watenuki takes the pipfox to zashiki's mountian followed by the eye arc...but what about the woman in the park? id REALLY like to see that cuz in that arc doumeki smiles at the end :D
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 10 2006, 01:28 pm
Awww. Yeah, I love it when Doumeki gives us his first smile [of the series. I'm sure he's smiled before in his life.] ! I also loved the surprised look he gets on his face when he realizes Watanuki doesn't hate him! ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 10 2006, 06:31 pm
ne, from what i can surmise from the titles, i had originaly thought that the ep "Circumstances" was the eye arc, but perhaps its the woman in the park one. they HAVE to run that BEFORE the eye arc or they'll end up destroying the chemistry of the doumeki-watenuki pairing.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 10 2006, 07:33 pm
wow... a xxxholic thread... I kinda watched up to episode 2 in the anime series... But even in those episodes, I could really sense that, semi-confusing mood which can be found in the manga, and yuuko looks so..... seductive... o.0
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on July 10 2006, 07:49 pm
Has anyone seen the new ending yet for the anime? It's here on YouTube if anyone's curious:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_2MqX-d5I&search=xxxholic%20ending

It's... cute, and arguably more interesting to watch than the first, but it doesn't really fit the series  :tongue:. And Maru and Moro have no feet! Also liked it much better before Mokona jumped in. He just looked awkward lol.

it was a lot more interesting to watch then Reason but it really doesn't suit the anime
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 10 2006, 07:57 pm
I kinda like the 1st ending better though... At least we could get to see the black mokona dancing XD  :haha:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 10 2006, 10:02 pm
Oh, question! It some parts of fandom, I've seen the black Mokona Modoki refered to as "Larg", while the white one (that's mostly in TRC) was called "Soel". Is that from XXXHOLiC? Or a CLAMP interview? Or was it just fans making stuff up?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 10 2006, 10:44 pm
I've never heard those names in the episodes of xxxholic/TRC before, and I doubt that CLAMP would call em that, so i guess it's just names fans made up just to differenciate the 2 mokonas...
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 10 2006, 11:14 pm
Oh, question! It some parts of fandom, I've seen the black Mokona Modoki refered to as "Larg", while the white one (that's mostly in TRC) was called "Soel". Is that from XXXHOLiC? Or a CLAMP interview? Or was it just fans making stuff up?

I'm not sure since I've only read the first two books, but I think those are names from Magic Knight Rayearth, where Mokona originated.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 10 2006, 11:37 pm
oh yeah... doumeki/watanuki relationship?! amagawd not BROKEBACK HOLIC?!?!?! waaaaa :lol:

I might say no... XD :lol:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on July 11 2006, 03:35 am
Oh, question! It some parts of fandom, I've seen the black Mokona Modoki refered to as "Larg", while the white one (that's mostly in TRC) was called "Soel". Is that from XXXHOLiC? Or a CLAMP interview? Or was it just fans making stuff up?

Theyre from the Mokona picture story book "Soel to Larg: Mokona=Modoki no Bouken" (which is cracktastic and full of YuukoxClow goodness. Someone translated it on live-journal a while ago.. (mighta been chou_addicted but I'm not sure right now *will check later* Edit: No, twas Jamie http://iamsocool12345.livejournal.com/tag/soel%26larg )

http://www.kimihiro.net/mokona/symbol.php Here's some very interesting stuff about the names and symbolism (especially the Soel=Syaoran and Larg=Watanuki stuffs)

Edit: Also I read somewhere (one of the HOLiC forums I think D: ) That there was an omake in one of the tankoubons that involved
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Yuuko going to Doumeki's temple and him shooting her with an arrow .__.
Can anyone confirm this? The person who posted it didnt seem to be the most ..uh.. reliable of people. But *still interested*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 11 2006, 09:17 am
Wow, thank you, Znuese! That is such a...bizarrely CLAMP story. Poor Yue, living with two eccentric alcoholic magic-users and three spaztastic animal-type creatures. :XD: The symbolism with the runes is really interesting. It corresponds eeriely to Tsubasa and XXXHOLiC.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 12 2006, 12:40 pm
Hey, does anyone else kind of get the feeling that maybe Fei-Wong Reed is the one stealing souls with those wings?
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Maybe to bring his 'clones' or 'creations' to life?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 12 2006, 12:48 pm
Hey, does anyone else kind of get the feeling that maybe Fei-Wong Reed is the one stealing souls with those wings?
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Maybe to bring his 'clones' or 'creations' to life?
he was. thats why that reference was taken out in that episode of holic, cuz it was a trc reference <_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 12 2006, 12:50 pm
TRC
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Wasn't it pretty much stated outright in Chapitre 120 that he was? Yuuko says "I know that Fei Wang was collecting the souls of people for the sake of his dream." I had immediately assumed she was talking about the wing parasites. We don't know what Fei-Wang's dream is, but he doesn't seem to care too much about the creations he has now...maybe for a special one?

How much do you think the outcome of TRC will be related to XXXHOLiC? Most of the time they aren't too much related, but the crossover points are important to the plot of TRC, at least. Yuuko and Clow knew quite a lot about the main characters of both series, back in the day...Is the fate of Watanuki&co. tied to the fate of Syaoran&co.? I wonder.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 12 2006, 02:00 pm
Aah, stupid me, of course!(*was a little too concerned for Fai to remember*)

I think XXXHolic and Tsubasa are probably going to be connected in some significant way before the end. While their respective endings may differ, I can see some sort of final battle being fought in around the same area, if not together. Since fighting is a more prominent theme in Tsubasa (Watanuki and Doumeki never do much physical fighting, after all, certainly not in the way the Tsubasa group does) I can't imagine the two casts uniting directly. But I think they'll meet and their destinies will be linked somehow, even if it's not in a big way.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 12 2006, 02:02 pm
Hard to say.  xxxHolic has always been more important to TRC than the other way around so it's possible that TRC's ending to have something to do with Yuuko but the 'Holic ending be free of the TRC characters.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 12 2006, 02:03 pm
Yes, XXXHolic and Tsubasa are so drastically different thematically that I don't know if they'll interlock in any huge way. I'm guessing it will be something small but significant.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Monse-chan on July 12 2006, 02:21 pm
Yes, XXXHolic and Tsubasa are so drastically different thematically that I don't know if they'll interlock in any huge way. I'm guessing it will be something small but significant.

I agree with that.

Even so, I am soo totally in love with the manga and anime!! ^^

Yuuko is so cool! My fav. character, that is for sure!! ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 12 2006, 03:11 pm
im wondering, since the anime is taking out basicaly everysingle TRC reference (the only one evident is the use of fai's staff as a rug beater, and even then it was drasticaly changed. [fai's staff is WAAY more elegent ad complex then the one used]) im wondering if they get around to doing the "woman in the park arc
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watenuki meets with a woman in the park, and her presense is slowly killing him
will they keep in the TRC refgerence? [yuuko is MIA during that aarc for she is doing a ceremony to create gods IE: in paralel to the shura arc in TRC. hopefully theyll keep it in, otherwise, why else would yuuko be away, alowing watenuki get himself in such a pinch?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Smile_For_Me on July 12 2006, 04:35 pm
I love the manga, I do wish they would re-amp the anime, leaving all things TRC out is a bad thing to do, considering the the TRC Anime is keeping it in, this is why I dread half the time when manga gets turned into anime now a days. At least they did leave the Legal Drug Boys in, no matter how saddly animated they were....crys for the anime of XXXHolic
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 12 2006, 05:20 pm
The no TRC thing in the anime surprises me since the movie *did* cross over with TRC.  That really makes no sense why they'd have one cross over and not the other one.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: sanlyn on July 12 2006, 11:10 pm
it has something to do with copyright issues among TV station.  NHK holds the copyright for Tsubasa anime in TV so it means no other tv station can air tsubasa or  show characters from tsubasa other than NHK channels.

I  think no tv station holds copyright for xxxHolic anime for TV since it aired in different TV stations across japan such as TBS, MBS, BS-i.

the reason why Tsubasa in NHK because the company also holds card captor sakura's copyright.

The movie has cross-over because its a different with tv and it won't air in tv anyway and more importantly, both were created by the same animation company (production IG).
yeah... movie is not created by BeeTrain.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 13 2006, 12:43 am
I actually really like the anime. They've made a few questionable choices... such as not killing the lying girl and making it possible for the girl with the wings to recover (trying to lighten XXXHolic is NOT a good idea by any means), but overall I think it's been pretty solid. The voices are good (DOUMEKI IS ZORO! ...Eeeh, maybe Yuuko's is different than I pictured her to be, but I've warmed up to it.) and I sort of like the animation, even if it's not top-notch. And they stay pretty close to the manga, maybe changing certain settlings or something, but usually the basic storyline remains unchanged. And the fillers haven't been bad (like Tsubasa's  -_-).

I thought it was was cool that the second filler was derived from the manga itself (Himawari's ghost story). That's a cool compromise for the people who don't like original stories.

I sort of liked what they did with Zashiki Warashi. The park-setting was really pretty, and so was her new outfit (though I woulda liked to see her original one...). And blue hair! She looks so pretty.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Hira on July 13 2006, 01:37 am
Yeah, the part where Yuuko is performing the ceremony to create gods... they can use TONS of excuses to make her MIA for that Woman-in-the-dark arc.
I mean, they changed the Valentine chocolate into red bean cakes, so it's not necessary to send the choco to Tsubasa just to match the Outo Arc in TRC.
They'll probably say that she goes off to visit client or something like that... going out of town/country/world or something. She IS a busy woman.

And... to be honest, I felt the same way about the lying girl, too. But,
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when I see the episode about ANOTHER lying girl to cheats of people PURPOSELY, not being killed, that wouldn't seem fair.
They DID
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kill off the woman with the wishing hand of ape

Another reason why they change the setting... I think it's because they want to accomodate the time of the year. Most of the episodes, as you can see, takes place in summer, and it IS summer now. Valentine is over months ago, that'd seem weird, especially when the
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Rain Girl shows up before the Tengu's

I just found something interesting!!!!
XXXHolic DID make a crossover reference to ONE particular work!
On Episode 14, where the four people went to watch the movie. The character in the movie
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Just might be the heroine from CLAMP's novel... I don't know exactly what it's called in English, but it's about that girl who can enter people's dreams, while a man is destined to be her partner
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 13 2006, 06:05 am
it has something to do with copyright issues among TV station.  NHK holds the copyright for Tsubasa anime in TV so it means no other tv station can air tsubasa or  show characters from tsubasa other than NHK channels.

I  think no tv station holds copyright for xxxHolic anime for TV since it aired in different TV stations across japan such as TBS, MBS, BS-i.

the reason why Tsubasa in NHK because the company also holds card captor sakura's copyright.

The movie has cross-over because its a different with tv and it won't air in tv anyway and more importantly, both were created by the same animation company (production IG).
yeah... movie is not created by BeeTrain.

Ah okay that makes a lot of sense.  I just assumed that TRC and XXXHolic were aired on the same station.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 13 2006, 09:33 am
intersting points, but also, the animation company is showing the arcs all out of order really,. non really matter when they get shown because theyre all really stand alone, but i REALLY hope they show the woman in the park BEFORE the eye arc. showing it after, or during would mess up the chemistry of the doumeki-watenuki pairing.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 13 2006, 09:36 am
Yeah. The arc with the woman in the park was a major turning-point for the Doumeki/Watanuki relationship, whether you look at it from a romantic point-of-view or not.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 13 2006, 09:37 am
I agree, that arc is huge for those two. I don't watch the Holic anime, though, so I'm not sure if moving it is something they're apt to do. Do they normally switch the arcs around?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 13 2006, 09:41 am
Well, they did a lot of switching around in the beginning in order to introduce Doumeki quickly. The fortune teller only appears around episode 5 or something like that. I understand that move, though, since Doumeki's a major character and all, and it didn't affect the storyline *too* much (although the fortune teller's prediction was a little less mysterious since you already know who she's talking about). Other than that... hmm... I can't really remember.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 13 2006, 09:44 am
I agree, that arc is huge for those two. I don't watch the Holic anime, though, so I'm not sure if moving it is something they're apt to do. Do they normally switch the arcs around?
theyve been runing arcs out of order for a bit.
 they showed the angel-san arc BEFORE revealing doumeki's latent priestly powers,(in the anime)
 the wings arc came AFTER the twins arc in the manga,
 the monkey paw came after the 100 ghosts story in the manga,
 so yeah, IG is running the arcs much out of order. but since theres no true plot basis other than hintings on the stranegnesses of himiwari, and developing the freindship etween watenuki and doumeki. its not really all that bad. so unlessthey change things about the 2 of them, its ok to chnge the ordr i guess :-\
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 13 2006, 09:49 am
Yeah, changing the order really doesn't have that much of an effect on the series as long as the characterization and relationship development is kept consistant.

Though I've always been pro-Holic anime. It's much better than the Tsubasa anime.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 13 2006, 09:50 am
Yeah, changing the order really doesn't have that much of an effect on the series as long as the characterization and relationship development is kept consistant.

Though I've always been pro-Holic anime. It's much better than the Tsubasa anime.
true. the things IG has changed is NOTHING in comparison to what beetrain has changed <_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: ishiyaki on July 13 2006, 09:50 am
I'm sure about a question. It must exist a reason if Clamp created XXXHOlic. TRC and Holic is being published at the same time, but both follows differents ways. TRC has a lot of action and few explanation, while, in the other hand, XXXHolic, with Yuuko, has a lot of things to tell and less action than TRC. Connections isn't few.Yuuko knew Clow, so she also knew SAkura & Syaoran. FWR is a "big" enemy to her. Yuuko's behaviour is really calmed, so she always knows what to do or if her past actions were good. I sense that Yuuko was created by Clamp 'cause she'll give an explanation at the end of both stories.

also, both Mokonas were created by Yuuko & Clow. White for Syaoran, black for Watanuki. They're guards, because "manjuus" have saved a lot of times the kids. :confused:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 13 2006, 11:43 am
I remember reading in some CLAMP interview that they had wanted to create a story (stories, as it turned out) connecting all their works. To do that, there had to be a character who knew the connection between all CLAMP's works, and that character is Yuuko. So I think Yuuko is going to be doing a lot of explaining indeed. Mind, I don't actually remember which interview this is from, so I could be remembering it wrongly.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Rekall on July 13 2006, 12:05 pm
I remember that, it was from AX.  I think the question was something  like if their real life worlds were the same universe and they said yes but for their fantasy worlds they needed a way to connect all together to they created Yuuko.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 13 2006, 12:25 pm
I don't think that's the one I'm thinking of (it was from before AX), but if it said that, it'll do.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Hira on July 13 2006, 11:43 pm
I'm sure about a question. It must exist a reason if Clamp created XXXHOlic. TRC and Holic is being published at the same time, but both follows differents ways. TRC has a lot of action and few explanation, while, in the other hand, XXXHolic, with Yuuko, has a lot of things to tell and less action than TRC. Connections isn't few.Yuuko knew Clow, so she also knew SAkura & Syaoran. FWR is a "big" enemy to her. Yuuko's behaviour is really calmed, so she always knows what to do or if her past actions were good. I sense that Yuuko was created by Clamp 'cause she'll give an explanation at the end of both stories.

also, both Mokonas were created by Yuuko & Clow. White for Syaoran, black for Watanuki. They're guards, because "manjuus" have saved a lot of times the kids. :confused:

Yuuko, in the manga, mentioned that the White Mokona represents "Power", and the Black Mokona represents "Seal". Which would make sense since Watanuki needs to shield himself from the strange things that happen to him, while Syaoran and co. need as much power as they would need to face whatever danger comes in their way.

But wait... wouldn't Watanuki need power to fight the weird things, too?
Remember, he has power already, but he needs to learn to control it, not the other way around, plus he has a wish to get rid of his power. Syaoran and co., in exchange for the ability to travel across the dimensions, gave up whatever weapons they might have in the first place, and Syaoran never had any special powers to begin with himself.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 13 2006, 11:51 pm
But wait... wouldn't Watanuki need power to fight the weird things, too?

I guess that's where Doumeki comes in.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 14 2006, 09:25 pm
yeah... watanuki cant handle the spirits all by himself, thus Doumeki is there to provide him with the support he needs should they get into a tight spot... o.0
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 15 2006, 12:28 am
I'm pretty sure that Doumeki is the way Yuuko is granting Watanuki's wish. It's perfectly valid... I don't think she ever said she'd take away his powers, only "make it" so he doesn't see spirits anymore (err... did she? I don't have my book 1 with me so I can't double-check). I think there's probably a bit more to it, of course, but essentially I think that's what Doumeki's there for.

Anyway, I can see Watanuki finding out that Doumeki is the answer to his wish and flipping out, because he's just been tricked again by Yuuko... :hehe:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 15 2006, 04:05 am
I'm pretty sure that Doumeki is the way Yuuko is granting Watanuki's wish. It's perfectly valid... I don't think she ever said she'd take away his powers, only "make it" so he doesn't see spirits anymore (err... did she? I don't have my book 1 with me so I can't double-check). I think there's probably a bit more to it, of course, buit essentially I think that's what Doumeki's there for.

Anyway, I can see Watanuki finding out that Doumeki is the answer to his wish and flipping out, because he's just been tricked again by Yuuko... :hehe:
right. she never said she'd take away his powers, only make them tolerable XD and yes, watenuki will most likly flip out, causing doumeki to plug his ears again ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on July 16 2006, 02:29 am
Thanks for pointing that out, Yue-chan. ^^ I'd have to say this was my favorite part:
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Dou: "....I'll go."

p.7

Wata: "hm?"
Dou: "I'll go and get it. You wait here."
Wata: "It's my fault that it flew inside in the first place, so I'll go."
Dou: "You're waiting here. No talking."
Wata: "You think I'm scared?! I'm going in! You can stay here and cry until I come back!"

chou_addicted's comments after the scripts were pretty interesting too... Like CLAMP won't delve into the realistic and darker side of their characters, especially Doumeki and his job at the temple.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: ishiyaki on July 22 2006, 08:19 am
I've read in somewhre that Clamp said in a n interview that Himawari is a "surprise" at the end...then, she could be the connection between TRC and XXHolic, but Clamp said that she'll do something imporatnt , .obviously, they didn't say what.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 22 2006, 10:50 am
Yeah, I heard that too. But I thought that CLAMP only said that once something big is revealed, XXXHolic will be over quickly. Did they go on record saying it was Himawari? Even if they didn't, it's pretty obvious that THAT is what's most likely to be drawn out the longest...
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 22 2006, 10:55 am
Yeah, I heard that too. But I thought that CLAMP only said that once something big is revealed, XXXHolic will be over quickly. Did they go on record saying it was Himawari? Even if they didn't, it's pretty obvious that THAT is what's most likely to be drawn out the longest...

They did say Holic would be over soon, once something big about somebody was revealed, but they didn't say WHO. My bet is that it's Himawari as well. She's the msot mysterious of the Holic characters. I'd already been suspecting something about her from all the hints that've been dropped so far.

However, I WOULDN'T be surprised either if Clamp on purposely led us to believe there was something with Himawari, then pulls a twist on us unexpectedly.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 23 2006, 11:08 am
(Kills himself)

Episode 5 Is a really beautiful most especially
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The part where the owner of the shop used the arrow to heal the injury of the bird... As well as the part wherein Watanuki gave the arrow to the owner's son in the first few moments of the episode...

It's really beautiful... ^^

^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Becka-Chan on July 23 2006, 11:31 am
um..okay, I don't want to sound stupid, and I don't know if this has been asked yet, but what is  Watanuki's surname? It seemes that in the anime or websites that I go to, Watanuki is listed sometimes as his surname but sometimes as given name.

(...humm that does sound stupid. ^_^;;;;;;)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 23 2006, 11:50 am
um..okay, I don't want to sound stupid, and I don't know if this has been asked yet, but what is  Watanuki's surname? It seemes that in the anime or websites that I go to, Watanuki is listed sometimes as his surname but sometimes as given name.

(...humm that does sound stupid. ^_^;;;;;;)
actualy, watenumi IS his surname. his first name is Kimihiro. Dioumeki's first name is Shizuka
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Becka-Chan on July 23 2006, 11:56 am
actualy, watenumi IS his surname. his first name is Kimihiro. Dioumeki's first name is Shizuka

..... *blink* OH. Shizuka? *giggles*

Thanks for the clarification!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 23 2006, 12:19 pm
That is, his given name is Watanuki and his family name is Kimihiro. I think we're getting confused by the Japanese name order. Doumeki is Doumeki's given name. The other one would be his family name.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Becka-Chan on July 23 2006, 02:10 pm
That is, his given name is Watanuki and his family name is Kimihiro. I think we're getting confused by the Japanese name order. Doumeki is Doumeki's given name. The other one would be his family name.

.....gah! See this is what I mean! Everyone says something different  :cry:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: mela on July 23 2006, 02:39 pm
That is, his given name is Watanuki and his family name is Kimihiro. I think we're getting confused by the Japanese name order. Doumeki is Doumeki's given name. The other one would be his family name.

Shizuka is Doumeki's given name. Watanuki asks Doumeki what his family calls him, and Doumeki responds "Shizuka". I don't think his family would call him by his surname.

Also, Kimihiro is Watanuki's given name.

I am 99.999999999999% percent sure on this.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 23 2006, 02:45 pm
Shizuka is Doumeki's given name. Watanuki asks Doumeki what his family calls him, and Doumeki responds "Shizuka". I don't think his family would call him by his surname.

Also, Kimihiro is Watanuki's given name.

I am 99.999999999999% percent sure on this.
yup. this is from ch 106. a very close to canonizing the pairing ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Becka-Chan on July 23 2006, 03:45 pm
Shizuka is Doumeki's given name. Watanuki asks Doumeki what his family calls him, and Doumeki responds "Shizuka". I don't think his family would call him by his surname.

Also, Kimihiro is Watanuki's given name.

I am 99.999999999999% percent sure on this.

THANK YOU! Cheese. Mayhap I sould read the manga as well as watching the show ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: mela on July 23 2006, 03:50 pm
THANK YOU! Cheese. Mayhap I sould read the manga as well as watching the show ^_^

Hm, no problem!

To add on, just looking at Himawari we can tell Kimihiro is his given name, rather than Watanuki. She calls Doumeki by his surname, making him "Doumeki-kun". If she called Watanuki anything other than "Watanuki-kun" such as "Kimihiro-kun" or whatever, he'd probably have freaked out and been like "HAHAHAH HIMAWARI-CHAN LIKES ME MORE THAN DOUMEKI!" cos he's crazy that way and makes a big deal about Himawari treating him the same as Doumeki.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 23 2006, 09:53 pm
Sorry, I was going by the DelRey translation. Did they get that wrong? Because they list characters with reverse name order (Sorata was Sorata Arisugawa, Arashi was Arashi Kishuu), and it was "Watanuki Kimihiro."

...I'm very confused now.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on July 23 2006, 10:35 pm
Sorry, I was going by the DelRey translation. Did they get that wrong? Because they list characters with reverse name order (Sorata was Sorata Arisugawa, Arashi was Arashi Kishuu), and it was "Watanuki Kimihiro."

...I'm very confused now.

Just means that Del Rey listed his name in the Japanese order, that's all.  Not much for consistency though. >_>
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on July 24 2006, 07:17 am
Yup. Family name = Watanuki. Given name = Kimihiro. Del Rey keeps the names in the original Japanese order here.

And another possibility for the big Himawari mystery:
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mystery...http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/91715.html#cutid1 (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/91715.html#cutid1)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on July 24 2006, 10:08 am
That would be quite funny if true.  Although I don't know about her on some levels. 
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She can see Mokona and isn't surprised in the least about the things that Watanuki says.  Not to mention the recent incident with the pinky swear.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 24 2006, 07:13 pm
you know, afer what yuuko told watenkuki ate the end of ch 113, the look on his face, i SO cant wait for the convo between watenkuki and doumeki ^^

its curious, watenuki has the worst case of denial, and its only cuz he's crushing on himiwari, but its always curious on how he ALWAYS reports to doumeki on the supernatural stuff, even before the eye incident ^^

then you got the almost canoning-serious funny convos, like whenever doumeki says something serious that MAY reveal how he feels, it turns into something that gets a rise out of watenuki XD

IE:
doum: If something [bad] were to happen to you...
watenuki... [fangirls go to the edge of their seat ^^]
doum: i wouldnt have anything to eat for lunch anymore.
watenuki: freaks out and yells with sharp teath etc

 :laughing4: LOL i think its always about lunch/food too. such a cute pair there XD

[but not as cute as kurofai ^^]
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on July 25 2006, 03:07 am
Their relationship definately reminds me of Kazahaya and Rikuo, although I'd say Watanuki is far less naive and way more spastic.  Doumeki obviously cares about him,
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who would give up part of their eye otherwise?
  The same could be said about Watanuki, although his selflessness that hurts other people is something that he needs to work on.  His fatal kindness kinda reminds me of Subaru in that regard.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 28 2006, 04:18 pm
hmm. this accured to me on the holic thread on fansub.tv's board...

watenuki has a diferent outlook on his power. he's still afraid of maicious spirits and stuff, but he;s nticing other stuff, that he probably never got the chnce to notice before IE the waves coming off the lder twin in the twins Rc, STUFF LIKE THAT. AS MUCH AS HE "HATES" being around doumeki, im pretty sure, doumeki's preense is alowing watenuki developp the better part of his power., simply by warding off bad spirits.

just a thoguht ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 28 2006, 06:36 pm
That is, his given name is Watanuki and his family name is Kimihiro. I think we're getting confused by the Japanese name order. Doumeki is Doumeki's given name. The other one would be his family name.

I believe it was the other way around. Watanuki is the family name. Kimihiro is his given name. Doumeki is the family name as well, and Shizuka is the given name. You can tell this, particularly with Doumeki, because

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In the manga, the chapter where Watanuki dreams of Doumeki's grandfather as a young man, he had asked about "Shizuka". Basically, only close friends and family members will call people by their given names.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 28 2006, 09:16 pm
I believe it was the other way around. Watanuki is the family name. Kimihiro is his given name. Doumeki is the family name as well, and Shizuka is the given name. You can tell this, particularly with Doumeki, because

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In the manga, the chapter where Watanuki dreams of Doumeki's grandfather as a young man, he had asked about "Shizuka". Basically, only close friends and family members will call people by their given names.

Yes, the others corrected me. I only read the Del Rey translations, so I haven't gotten to that chapter (and those translations aren't very clear about whether the names are family or personal). I apologize for stating incorrect information - I should have checked my facts more thoroughly (really, what posessed me to check using the notes at the end of Tsubasa 1? Other than the fact that they were right next to me and I expected them to be consistent with the XXXHOLiC translation, being done by the same guy and all...).
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on July 29 2006, 02:44 pm
ep 16 was great, i think i have become a WatanukiXVestal supporter now ^_^

and did anyone else notice the very tiny TRC crossover in this ep?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 29 2006, 03:13 pm
ep 16 was great, i think i have become a WatanukiXVestal supporter now ^_^

and did anyone else notice the very tiny TRC crossover in this ep?
i dont remeber :P what was it ^^;;
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on July 29 2006, 03:22 pm
i dont remeber :P what was it ^^;;

when Watanuki is buying the hairpins for the Vestal Sprite, on the package of the hairpins you can see the words 'Piffle Things'

oh and i put the direct download of the episode up at my topic
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 29 2006, 03:26 pm
oh that. i submitteed that on the tvrage guide as a genereal multi clamp reference since acording to capella, tis apeared in many other nanimes and mangas
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 29 2006, 04:44 pm
Yes, the others corrected me. I only read the Del Rey translations, so I haven't gotten to that chapter (and those translations aren't very clear about whether the names are family or personal). I apologize for stating incorrect information - I should have checked my facts more thoroughly (really, what posessed me to check using the notes at the end of Tsubasa 1? Other than the fact that they were right next to me and I expected them to be consistent with the XXXHOLiC translation, being done by the same guy and all...).

Sorry, didn't mean to put you on the spotlight again. ^^ I have to say, the Del Rey translations for Tsubasa are some of the worst I've seen. I hadn't read theh Holic ones...but now that you've mentioned it's the same guy, that's got to be bad news.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 29 2006, 08:48 pm
Sorry, didn't mean to put you on the spotlight again. ^^ I have to say, the Del Rey translations for Tsubasa are some of the worst I've seen. I hadn't read theh Holic ones...but now that you've mentioned it's the same guy, that's got to be bad news.

So I've heard. I still find them enjoyable to read, though, so I do. If I like the series that way, it's okay to read it, right? I've just never felt like reading online translations for XXXHOLiC the way I do for Tsubasa.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on July 29 2006, 11:36 pm
when Watanuki is buying the hairpins for the Vestal Sprite, on the package of the hairpins you can see the words 'Piffle Things'

oh and i put the direct download of the episode up at my topic

That's a TRC crossover, huh? I thought it was just Clamp using the name Piffle again. It's appeared in a few other Clamp works, hasn't it?

Meeh, I don't know. I'm not a Clamp expert >_< Lol.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on July 30 2006, 12:56 am
it could be that Clamp is just using the name Piffle again, but then again XXXHolic and TRC crossover with eachother a lot in the manga's so......
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on July 30 2006, 01:16 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Piffle brand/name thing is one of those reoccuring details CLAMP likes to add in alot of their series to link them, much like the block of flats that they often use as a home for the main character (Hideki in Chobits, Kobato in Kobato and Watanuki in HOLiC etc.). It's not just exclusive to the xxxholic<>TRC crossover
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Capella on July 30 2006, 10:50 am
I'm pretty sure Watanuki just bought the thing at his local retailer of Piffle Princess goods, rather than importing it from Piffle World via Yuuko, so I'd say it's just another reappearance of the brand, not a TRC crossover (the company and its products appear in Angelic Layer, Chobits, XXXHOLiC, TRC, and Legal Drug, that I can think of off the top of my head).
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Post by: kudan on July 30 2006, 11:11 pm
xxxHolic creditless OP and ED here (http://rusalkaz.livejournal.com/33026.html), uploaded by rusalkaz (http://rusalkaz.livejournal.com/)-san. ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: wetheril on July 31 2006, 01:55 am
I'm pretty sure Watanuki just bought the thing at his local retailer of Piffle Princess goods, rather than importing it from Piffle World via Yuuko, so I'd say it's just another reappearance of the brand, not a TRC crossover (the company and its products appear in Angelic Layer, Chobits, XXXHOLiC, TRC, and Legal Drug, that I can think of off the top of my head).

I agree with that view. Since, Legal Drug and xxxHolic are in the same universe (Watanuki went to the Green Drugstore to buy hangover medicine for Yuuko), it figures that there would be a Piffle Princess outlet in that world.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: duchessa on August 01 2006, 01:02 am
Spoiler for this week's holic?
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http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/16746.html?#cutid1
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on August 01 2006, 01:03 am
So, will Holic resume this week? Will we be getting another chapter, or is there to be another hiatus this week?
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Post by: duchessa on August 01 2006, 01:15 am
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07/15 - Young Magazine #33 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled (on sale).
07/24 - Young Magazine #34 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
07/31 - Young Magazine #35 - Chapter 114.
08/07 - Young Magazine #36 & #37 - Chapter 115.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 01 2006, 04:11 pm
Spoiler for this week's holic?
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http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/16746.html?#cutid1
this may be vital to current events on trc. see: vol 8, doumeki;s granftahters special ritual to retreive a lost eye ~_^

somethings curious tho...doumeki is helping watenuki collect the well water...but how does he get it to yuuko's shop? doumeki cant enter her shop, so des he follow watenuki to her gate, and doumki just stand there and wait for watenuki to take the jug from him? O_o
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: kudan on August 03 2006, 05:24 pm
xxxHOLiC ED2 Single - Kagerou [BUCK-TICK] (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20xxxHOLiC%20ED2%20Single%20-%20Kagerou%20%5BBUCK-TICK%5D.zip.torrent) torrent is out. ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 03 2006, 05:29 pm
cool.

can someone summerize the holic chapter? what are doumeki's grandfather and watenuki talking about? Doumeki?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on August 04 2006, 01:06 am
ZOMG, I love Doumeki's grandfather. I hope he's telling Watanuki that his grandson has a crush on him XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on August 04 2006, 05:10 am
ZOMG, I love Doumeki's grandfather. I hope he's telling Watanuki that his grandson has a crush on him XD
I was hoping that too x'D But alas, he doesnt say that not directly anyway *overanalysis*

There's a translation on livejournal here - http://inarikami.livejournal.com/9098.html
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 04 2006, 06:24 am
thanksS. intersting convo between those 2.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on August 04 2006, 07:59 am
Oh, Himawari. What is UP with you?

Also... laughs for the Holic episode with Watanuki buying hair clips for Zashiki Warashi, and Doumeki asking Watanuki if he was going to wear them himself.

Oh, Doumeki makes me laugh. XDDD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Jeannette on August 05 2006, 07:57 am
I love Watanuki/Doumeki. They are such an OTP. I actually like them better than Kazahaya and Rikuo. (My favorite LG pairing is Kakei/Saiga.) I do believe they will be canon. I think there's been more than enough subtext and hinting, to the point that I read xxxHOLiC as a WataDomeki fan, just like I read TRC as a KuroFai shipper. Yuuko is my hero... I love all the shoujo-ai fanservice she has with her customers, as much as I love Yuuko/Clow.

The HOLiC anime IS better than the Tsubasa anime... but the biggest problem with the HOLiC anime is that the animation is often TERRIBLE. Terrible, terrible, terrible. That's what I mind the most, even as much as I hate the fact that they have apparently tried to 'lighten' HOLiC.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: sanlyn on August 07 2006, 01:58 am
TRC and CCS reference in holic episode 18...
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(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7788/holicccska3.th.jpg) (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holicccska3.jpg)
(http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/3136/holictrcwi2.th.jpg) (http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holictrcwi2.jpg)

I love this episode.  its better than episode 17
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 07 2006, 02:13 am
TRC and CCS reference in holic episode 18...
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(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7788/holicccska3.th.jpg) (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holicccska3.jpg)
(http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/3136/holictrcwi2.th.jpg) (http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holictrcwi2.jpg)

I love this episode.  its better than episode 17

that's Hikaru's sword in the 2nd pic...cool! ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kirtai on August 08 2006, 05:51 am
Just read entirety of Holic in one day...Now I'm up to speed! I should've been reading this all along!  As to the poll question, I don't see there being another option but that they're canon.  That, to me, is like asking if Hideki and Chi are canon halfway through the series...No they haven't confessed or anything, but the story is quite obviously about them and their relationship.  It is different that TRC, where Kuro and Fai are just side characters, the main story is getting Saku's feathers back, and their romance is just a side bonus; to me, Wata/Dou IS the story in Holic..anyone else agree/disagree?

Oh, as to Piffle Princess, it's in CCS too!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on August 08 2006, 10:59 pm
I agree, Kirtai. Watanuki and Doumeki's relationship is the only one that we see going through significant change. Himawari and Watanuki's relationship remains virtually unchanged since the beginning of the story. Yuuko and Watanuki's relationship is another important one, but the obvious focus has been on the development of the DouWata relationship, whether you see it as romantic or no.

If you read Holic believing that Doumeki is in love with Watanuki, it makes perfect sense within the context of the story, and even gives Doumeki a bit more depth.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 09 2006, 08:55 am
if you dont get them, i have Reason on my mp3 player, i can upload it to my filelodge later ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Arcademan on August 09 2006, 09:40 am
sorry to get off-topic but does anyone know a place to download the XXXHolic music? i still need the soundtrack of the movie and the 1st ED Single.

It's an xxxHoLic discussion so it's not off-topic. I wouldn't mind having the music myself :wink:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 09 2006, 09:45 am
the only holic music i have is 19sai and Reason. :P their uploading right now, but i have to get off. ill post them later on, kay?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 09 2006, 03:46 pm
You know with the cross over with TRC problem in XXXHolic, it makes me wonder how they will work things out in later chapter of both the mangas.....

This is why I hate it when anime companys takes a manga and animates it before the manga is over, 1 poor animation and 2 bad endings.....be it not all other anime is bad, but come on people think, its CLAMP, and they will cross shows over.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 09 2006, 07:34 pm
It's an xxxHoLic discussion so it's not off-topic. I wouldn't mind having the music myself :wink:

well then.... i managed to find the Movie soundtrack and Movie single and the songs from the OP and 2nd ED single

i still have to find good quality cover scan's for OP single 1 which is proving rather difficult

*cough*

anywayz...the XXXHolic music can be downloaded at my site:

http://www.freewebs.com/linkplayer/XXXHolic%20mp3%27s.html
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on August 09 2006, 11:50 pm
Ahh, thank-you, Kuro-puppy! I've been looking for the second ED for a while now!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Arcademan on August 10 2006, 12:32 am
well then.... i managed to find the Movie soundtrack and Movie single and the songs from the OP and 2nd ED single

i still have to find good quality cover scan's for OP single 1 which is proving rather difficult

*cough*

anywayz...the XXXHolic music can be downloaded at my site:

http://www.freewebs.com/linkplayer/XXXHolic%20mp3%27s.html

Nice. Have this delicious chocolate chip cookie for your efforts :)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on August 10 2006, 01:02 am
i still have to find good quality cover scan's for OP single 1 which is proving rather difficult

Here's a site for the 19sai single scans http://photo.163.com/photos/riff_022/58493969/

This site was shared at the clamp2share livejournal community, and it has all the xxxHOLiC single scans and booklet scans from the movie to the singles up to the 2nd ED (Kagerou).

I also have all the singles so far, so I could upload any of them for anyone who wants them. ^__^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 10 2006, 04:03 am
Ahh, thank-you, Kuro-puppy! I've been looking for the second ED for a while now!

you're welcome

Nice. Have this delicious chocolate chip cookie for your efforts :)

thank you for the cookie ^_^

Here's a site for the 19sai single scans http://photo.163.com/photos/riff_022/58493969/

thank you very much!

i now have added the 1st ED Single and corrected the mistake with the drama cd....phew! Holic music is completely finished, but more work is still waiting

*runs of in search for other anime songs*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 10 2006, 08:27 am
read the RAWS of ch 115, looks intersting. its cool that with the close uips of watenuki his yin-yang right eye ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Chibi on August 12 2006, 08:39 am
Is there a translation for 115 out yet or no?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 12 2006, 09:03 am
the chapters been posted to the msn group ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Chibi on August 12 2006, 09:44 am
Okay, thank you. ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kirtai on August 17 2006, 08:43 am
Ok, I just watched episode 18 - kawaii!  Check out this screencap:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/kirtai/mishicorp_xxxholic_-_18_64d5554d-av.jpg)

Can you see the blush?  Look how cute it is! :love4:
(Actually I think it's just red from bumping it, but I don't care!)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 17 2006, 08:45 am
LOL, tis a nice shot,
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too bad tis not a blush XP
tho the way doumeki shouted watenuki's name when he fell off the tengu leaer's board was nice. :)

btw, all the tengu's have names. normal names such as Keith (leader) and Jimmy XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on August 17 2006, 06:42 pm
LOL, tis a nice shot,
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too bad tis not a blush XP
tho the way doumeki shouted watenuki's name when he fell off the tengu leaer's board was nice. :)

btw, all the tengu's have names. normal names such as Keith (leader) and Jimmy XD

Haha XD I loved it when the Tengu said he was called Keith. That was brilliant~
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Andand, Watanuki did blush here (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/66/vlcsnap13541tp8.png) as well - and that was actually in response to something Doumeki said ("But you do know, don't you, the difference between good and bad intentions.")
:3 
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 17 2006, 06:52 pm
its juts ra the anoying that the company is shipping zashiki-watenuki more then they are doumeki-watenuki. mots likly their making us attached the the girl so tha we can worry about her when she gets trapped by the spider queen. but still, this is her 3rd (4th?) apearence and she;s in the next episode as well.

(i also foudn it a bit funny how Ame warashi ranted the next episode preveiw XD)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 17 2006, 07:11 pm
http://animesuki.com/series.php/788.html

episode 18 is out at animesuki but which one is the 'normal' version?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 17 2006, 07:29 pm
i get mine from baka-updates :S from anisuki, id go forthe xvid codec version
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 17 2006, 07:58 pm
i get mine from baka-updates :S from anisuki, id go forthe xvid codec version

thanks, i'll get started on downloading/uploading it ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Syaozen on August 21 2006, 07:08 am
19's up..seems like it's another filler.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Touei on August 21 2006, 07:14 am
19's up..seems like it's another filler.

It's mostly filler, but
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there was a very short winter arc in the manga where they built snow sculptures.. and I think Watanuki made a snow-rabbit. *needs to re-read that bit of HOLiC*

I really want to see the lonely woman arc (that's supposed to be episode 21 or 22 isnt it?)
Lotsa Doumeki/Watanuki development there.
And the eye arc of course, but are they going to be able to fit it in? o.o
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 21 2006, 08:54 am
the eye arc mioght end up on the dvd instead of aiting on the TV, which would suck, cuz we'd have to wait for those dvds to be released so someone can make a rip and then the subs V_V
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on August 22 2006, 05:19 am
Are me and Jeannette the only ones annoyed with the fact that
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the latest episodes keep throwing in Zashiki Warashi and seem to be pushing her and Watanuki together? Rather than Watanuki and Doumeki? I love her sweet and shy character, but I'm all for DouxWata. ><

They're probably doing this to build up tension in the eye arc when she gets kidnapped, ne? *pout* But they can't cover the DouxWata hints there! The hints in that arc are undeniable! XO

And if they only put the eye arc on the DVDs that would make me even more mad/sad. TT__TT
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 22 2006, 05:35 am
the only thing i've got to say about this is .....*waves the WatanukiXZashiki Warashi flag* XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 22 2006, 05:47 am
Are me and Jeannette the only ones annoyed with the fact that
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the latest episodes keep throwing in Zashiki Warashi and seem to be pushing her and Watanuki together? Rather than Watanuki and Doumeki? I love her sweet and shy character, but I'm all for DouxWata. ><

They're probably doing this to build up tension in the eye arc when she gets kidnapped, ne? *pout* But they can't cover the DouxWata hints there! The hints in that arc are undeniable! XO

And if they only put the eye arc on the DVDs that would make me even more mad/sad. TT__TT
im anoyed too. its stupid that is, tho your right about their doing it cuz of the eye arc. (id be pissed as well if its unreleased, to be on the dvd,... then thered be an even LONGER wiat for it to be subbed (if someone makes a rip of it :(
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: mela on August 22 2006, 05:53 am
Are me and Jeannette the only ones annoyed with the fact that
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the latest episodes keep throwing in Zashiki Warashi and seem to be pushing her and Watanuki together? Rather than Watanuki and Doumeki? I love her sweet and shy character, but I'm all for DouxWata. ><

They're probably doing this to build up tension in the eye arc when she gets kidnapped, ne? *pout* But they can't cover the DouxWata hints there! The hints in that arc are undeniable! XO

And if they only put the eye arc on the DVDs that would make me even more mad/sad. TT__TT

Zashiki Warashi needs to go home and stay there until she is needed again. She's getting on my nerves. A LOT. At first it was like "Aw, okay, you are good for an episode." But she's in every freaking episode since. Whatever though, this is another case where the manga is ultimately what really matters, even if there is a CLAMP member on the xxxHOLiC team :(
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 22 2006, 08:09 am
they need to leave zashiki and her tengu bodyguards out of the anime for a while. im rather anoyed at them for beating up watenuki everytime she has a tearin her eye :P
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 08:04 am
Anyone read chapter 116? OMG!
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Watanuki falls down from the third floor in school after Himawari touched his shoulder. And the next thing we see are blood and shattered glasses everywhere. I have a feeling Doumeki saved him and those are Doumeki's blood.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 08:07 am
you can read the chapter here:

http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/68024719/

Pass: guang
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Renaya on August 23 2006, 08:12 am
you can read the chapter here:

http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/68024719/

Pass: guang

doest it need some kind of password or what to enter??
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: mela on August 23 2006, 08:13 am
... holy crap.

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Watch all that blood be Doumeki's or something, like he managed to catch Watanuki... Dunno...
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 08:16 am
doest it need some kind of password or what to enter??
yes...Pass: guang
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kirtai on August 23 2006, 08:19 am
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I agree, gotta be Doumeki..but still...What is wrong with the CLAMP ladies this summer?  So violent!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on August 23 2006, 08:19 am
o_O is all I can say to that. 
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I'm hoping Doumeki saves him, he fell out a second story window!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on August 23 2006, 08:20 am
Thank you for that link, Yue-chan! Have a cookie. ^-^

I love the chibi Doumeki and Watanuki in this chapter. X3 But I wish I could read Chinese. x__x

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Oh noo Watanuki!! ;___; Yuuko-san really wasn't kidding when she said Himawari wasn't his lady luck. O__O That last panel looked pretty bloody (but not as bloody as the latest TRC  chapters have been). I hope Watanuki is okay! ><
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 08:24 am
she's evil, that girl is
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just what were the odds that that window would fall out when he bumpd into it, with the shoyulder in which she tapped...

anyone who doesnt veleive that the girl is evil, will definalty beleive it now <_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Renaya on August 23 2006, 08:26 am
yes...Pass: guang

oh sorry, I just realised, my bad 2x

oooow......i want translation and wanna know what they are talking about....><
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 08:30 am
the chapter should come on to the msn group in a few days, as soon as the manger finds the translations
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 08:32 am
oh sorry, I just realised, my bad 2x , thanx

oooow......i want translation and wanna know what they are talking about....><

I'm translating it now. Will be done in 5 minutes. ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 08:36 am
I'm translating it now. Will be done in 5 minutes. ^_^
uwaa!!! thank you!!!

*cokkie*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Tatasenko on August 23 2006, 08:37 am
the chronometer is running,we are counting on you  :keke:
will you beat your record  :wink:?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 08:46 am
Page 2- 4 done.

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page 2:
Doumeki: Are you saying you met my grandfaterh in your dream?
Watanuki: Yes. Your father's name is Haruka, right?
Doumeki: Yes.
Watanuki: When he's smoking, he looks alot like you.
Doumeki: Now that you mentioned it. My grandfather does look like me when he was young.

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Watanuki: your grandfather passed away, right?
Doumeki: He passed away when i was in fifth grade.
Watanuki: Then i wonder why he looked very young in my dreams. No, before i ask that, why was he in my dream in the first place?
Doumeki: My grandfather said you and him are very "similar" in a way.
Watanuki: Yes.
Doumeki: Then if that is true, then i guess something will happen. The reason is because not only can he kill evil things, He can also predict things.

Page 4
Watanuki: I think that Haruka san is a mysterious person.
Doumeki: You mentioned earlier that my grandfather told you to bring along with you your balloon?
Watanuki: Yes. That's why i brought it along with me. Then i saw Kohane-chan. That's why i gave the balloon to her.
Watanuki: I think Haruka san predicted that i will see Kohane-chan, that's why he told me to bring the balloon.
Doumeki: ...........
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Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 08:52 am
Page 5-6

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page 5

Watanuki: Ah. Also, i gave Kohane your share of lunch. That's why you need to buy your own today.
Doumeki: ............
Watanuki: Even if you make that face expression, if it's gone, then it's gone!
Doumeki: .........
Doumeki: "Give that balloon to the girl". Did my grandfather actually tell you to do that?
Watanuki: Eh? no. Haruka san just told me to bring the balloon with me today. He didn't say anything about giving it to someone.

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Doumeki: That means that he didn't say anything about giving the balloon to anyone.
Watanuki: Ah. Yes. That's right.
Doumeki: Are you sure you're fine without the balloon?
Watanuki: It's fine. Since i gave it to Kohane-chan.
Doumeki: Wait for me today. After my extracurricular classes
Watanuki: Ah? Why?
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Post by: augustserenade on August 23 2006, 08:57 am
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page 5

Watanuki: Ah. Also, i gave Kohane your share of lunch. That's why you need to buy your own today.
Doumeki: ............
Watanuki: Even if you make that face expression, if it's gone, then it's gone!
Doumeki: .........
Doumeki: "Give that balloon to the girl". Did my grandfather actually tell you to do that?
Watanuki: Eh? no. Haruka san just told me to bring the balloon with me today. He didn't say anything about giving it to someone.

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Doumeki: That means that he didn't say anything about giving the balloon to anyone.
Watanuki: Ah. Yes. That's right.
Doumeki: Are you sure you're fine without the balloon?
Watanuki: It's fine. Since i gave it to Kohane-chan.
Doumeki: Wait for me today. After my extracurricular classes
Watanuki: Ah? Why?

Ahh cute! X3 Doumeki's last line on page 6. ^^

You are so getting cookies for this, xxxholic. ^_^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Jeannette on August 23 2006, 09:03 am
Thank you, xxxholic! ♥ (You should not have taught me how to make the heart, My Lady. Now I will totally abuse it. xd) You have a cookie coming from me.

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I don't think that's Doumeki's blood- I think it's Watanuki's.

I would so die happy if Watanuki and Doumeki got some more canon-ness, since apparently the whole eye thing wasn't enough for some people.
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Post by: nefadol on August 23 2006, 09:04 am
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Doumeki's worried, Watanuki shouldn't have given away the balloon.  I don't think Himawari is intentionally evil, maybe she's cursed or something. She was screaming at the end afterall. D:
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Post by: Kirtai on August 23 2006, 09:06 am
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But if it is Watanuki's blood, I don't think I can handle it...Doumeki would have to take care of him again...bliss
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Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 09:08 am
Page 7-14 Done.
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Page 7

Watanuki: I asked you "Why?"!! Ah! (Is it because of the lunch? Is it that you want me to cook for you at your home? Hey!

Watanuki(to himself): Really. Why make that face! What is it, Doumeki-sama?! Then, i'm Watanuki-sama!

Page 8

Himawari: Good Morning! Watanuki.
Watanuki: Himawari.....

Page 9

no conversation

Page 10

Himawari: You're no feeling well? You don't look very well.
Did something happened while you were getting the water?
Watanuki: No, nothing happened.
Himawari: Really? You're not faking it, right?
Watanuki: No. There's nothing wrong.

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Watanuki: Oh, right. I saw Kohane-chan today.
Himawari: The girl who can get rid of ghosts?
Watanuki: Yes.
And then, i gave her Doumeki's lunch.

Page 12

No conversation

Page 13

No conversation

Page 14

Himawari: WATANUKI!!!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: augustserenade on August 23 2006, 09:11 am
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Doumeki's worried, Watanuki shouldn't have given away the balloon. I don't think Himawari is intentionally evil, maybe she's cursed or something. She was screaming at the end afterall. D:

Yeah. I don't think Himawari intentionally hurt Watanuki. She probably doesn't know what power (?) she posseses.

Thank you, xxxholic! ♥ (You should not have taught me how to make the heart, My Lady. Now I will totally abuse it. xd) You have a cookie coming from me.

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I don't think that's Doumeki's blood- I think it's Watanuki's.

I would so die happy if Watanuki and Doumeki got some more canon-ness, since apparently the whole eye thing wasn't enough for some people.

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I agree. I also think that it's Watanuki's blood, but then again, after reading xxxholic's translation, the line "wait for me after my extracurricular class" seemed to change my mind a bit. It may be Doumeki's, most likely Watanuki. ><

X3 On days like these when new chapters are released, I find hearts are a most necessary tool, My Lady. ♥___♥
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kirtai on August 23 2006, 09:12 am
And if I recall, there is no chapter next week.  Clamp are sadists, I swear.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 09:14 am
uwaa!!! thank you!!!

*cokkie*

Your'e welcome. Thanks for the cookie!

the chronometer is running,we are counting on you ?keke:
will you beat your record ?wink:?

I'm sorry! Unfortunely, it took me almost half an hour to it. >.< Sorry for the  misleading 5 min. :(

Ahh cute! X3 Doumeki's last line on page 6. ^^

You are so getting cookies for this, xxxholic. ^_^

Cool. Thanks for the cookie!. hehe.
Thank you, xxxholic! ♥ (You should not have taught me how to make the heart, My Lady. Now I will totally abuse it. xd) You have a cookie coming from me.

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I don't think that's Doumeki's blood- I think it's Watanuki's.

I would so die happy if Watanuki and Doumeki got some more canon-ness, since apparently the whole eye thing wasn't enough for some people.

You're welcome! and....
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i also think that those are Doumeki's blood.... It's getting so intense!
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Post by: mela on August 23 2006, 09:17 am
Thank you so much, xxxholic!!~ *gives cookie*

Now for another two week wait for HOLiC ;.; Waaah.
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Post by: nefadol on August 23 2006, 09:17 am
The next chapter doesn't come out until September 4th, Clamp is indeed evil. D:<
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Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 09:18 am
OKay, the final and complete translaton is here. There are some errors in it but i'm re-reading it to correct them. Sorry for any mistakes! >.<

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page 2:
Doumeki: Are you saying you met my grandfather in your dream?
Watanuki: Yes. Your grandfather's name is Haruka, right?
Doumeki: Yes.
Watanuki: When he's smoking, he looks alot like you.
Doumeki: Now that you mentioned it. My grandfather does look like me when he was young.
Watanuki: Hey! It should be YOU who looks like him!!

Page 3
Watanuki: your grandfather passed away, right?
Doumeki: He passed away when i was in fifth grade.
Watanuki: Then i wonder why he looked very young in my dreams. No, before i ask that, why was he in my dream in the first place?
Doumeki: My grandfather said you and him are very "similar" in a way?
Watanuki: Yes.
Doumeki: Then if that is true, then i guess something will happen. The reason is because not only can he kill evil things, He can also predict things.

Page 4
Watanuki: I think that Haruka san is a mysterious person.
Doumeki: You mentioned earlier that my grandfather told you to bring along with you your balloon?
Watanuki: Yes. That's why i brought it along with me. Then i saw Kohane-chan. That's why i gave the balloon to her.
Watanuki: I think Haruka san predicted that i will see Kohane-chan, that's why he told me to bring the balloon.
Doumeki: ...........

page 5

Watanuki: Ah. Also, i gave Kohane your share of lunch. That's why you need to buy some bread or something for lunch today.
Doumeki: ............
Watanuki: Even if you make that face expression, if it's gone, then it's gone!
Doumeki: .........
Doumeki: "Give that balloon to the girl". Did my grandfather actually tell you to do that?
Watanuki: Eh? no. Haruka san just told me to bring the balloon with me today. He didn't say anything about giving it to someone.

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Doumeki: That means that he didn't say anything about giving the balloon to anyone.
Watanuki: Ah. Yes. That's right.
Doumeki: Are you sure you're fine without the balloon?
Watanuki: It's fine. Since i gave it to Kohane-chan.
Doumeki: Wait for me today. After my club activities.
Watanuki: Ah? Why?

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Watanuki: I asked you "Why?"!! Ah! (Is it because of the lunch? Is it that you want me to cook for you at your home? Hey!)

Watanuki(to himself): Really. Why make that face! What is it, Doumeki-sama?! Then, i'm Watanuki-sama!

Page 8

Himawari: Good Morning! Watanuki.
Watanuki: Himawari.....

Page 9

no conversation

Page 10

Himawari: You're no feeling well? You don't look very well.
Did something happened while you were getting the water?
Watanuki: No, nothing happened.
Himawari: Really? You're not faking it, right?
Watanuki: No. There's nothing wrong.

Page 11

Watanuki: Oh, right. I saw Kohane-chan today.
Himawari: The girl who can communicate with spirits?
Watanuki: Yes.
And then, i gave her Doumeki's lunch.......

Page 12

No conversation

Page 13

No conversation

Page 14

Himawari: WATANUKI!!!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 09:33 am
thank you for the translation!!! i cant wait for the scnas *_*
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Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 09:37 am
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I agree. I also think that it's Watanuki's blood, but then again, after reading xxxholic's translation, the line "wait for me after my extracurricular class" seemed to change my mind a bit. It may be Doumeki's, most likely Watanuki. ><

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Oh thanks for pointing the extracurricular class out. I corrected it and it's supposed to be "club activities". ^_^;; But the first thing i thought of when i saw the blood was DOUMEKI.
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Post by: lynalar on August 23 2006, 09:37 am
Wow.  Clamp released 125 of TSR early and left us with the cliffhanger...and now this.  Just...wow.

   Thanks so much for the links (and pwd) for the raw, Sailor Yue-Chan, and the translations, xxxholic!
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Post by: whatever on August 23 2006, 01:38 pm
SailorYue-chan: Thanks for the link and password for Chapter 116.

xxxholic: Thank you for the translation.

Wow.

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Very Doumeki - (paraphrasing) - "He looks like me when he was young." And typical Watanuki - "Don't you mean . . ." All that was missing was the "you arrogant jerk!" But Watanuki has been more civil since the ghost lady incident. And when he does say something (about Doumeki) now, like he did to Kohane-chan, it's more out of fondness than malice.

I felt so bad for Himiwari. She looked so hurt when Watanuki just stared at her. I know from the translation that she is supposed to look concerned. But the expression on her face is not mere concern. *In the anime twin arc Watanuki was walking with Himawari and thinking about whether she had been to the cafe. She answered him and he was confused because he didn't say it out loud. She read his mind. *  I think she does really care about Watanuki. In an I like you because you like me kind of way. If she thought knew that she had anything to do with him falling out the window, she would be traumatized. Maybe as much as we are having to wait so long to find out who's injured and just how seriously?

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Just reread the chapter. At first I was wondering where Himawari was while Watanuki was backflipping out the second-story window. I was thinking: Why aren't you trying to stop him from falling? Then I thought back to my earlier traumatized comment and realized she could have been frozen in disbelief/terror at seeing the windows just fall away when windows shouldn't do that not to mention your friend going head-first after them. More sympathy for Himawari!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 02:10 pm
thnks for the trans Z*_*

you wrote in the "page 2" that watenuki said "your father" it should probably be "your grandfather"
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 03:37 pm
btw, the cliffhanger in this chapter is just as bad as the infamous cliffhanger-2week break of ch 120.

they do something terrible to the most popular character...something that makes us wonder if he'll pull thru. then force us to wait 2 weeks to find out D:

those evil evil girls ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 03:46 pm
thnks for the trans Z*_*

you wrote in the "page 2" that watenuki said "your father" it should probably be "your grandfather"

Yes. That's right. Thanks for the correction. :)
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Post by: Renaya on August 23 2006, 04:55 pm
thank you for the chapter link and translation!!!

Seriously, we do need separate thread for xxxHolic, so we can discuss the anime and manga separately...not jumbled up all together. Though it's kinda no problem here
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Post by: xxxholic on August 23 2006, 05:02 pm
thank you for the chapter link and translation!!!

Seriously, we do need separate thread for xxxHolic, so we can discuss the anime and manga separately...not jumbled up all together. Though it's kinda no problem here

I think your'e right. I'm all for the idea.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 23 2006, 05:09 pm
xxxHOLiC has definalty turned into a very dark manga O.O

the chapter has been scanslated on the msn group, but it hass all the errors from the first draft of the transaltion :( ill have to email the manager about that or soemthing :-/
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Post by: xxxholic on August 24 2006, 03:40 am
xxxHOLiC has definalty turned into a very dark manga O.O

the chapter has been scanslated on the msn group, but it hass all the errors from the first draft of the transaltion :( ill have to email the manager about that or soemthing :-/

Ah yes. Thanks. Please do that. Especially the "extracurricular classes". It should be "club activities". And the "ghost" should be spirits.

ANd also, the word "in the last page" is a sound. It's not a word by Himawari. It pronounces like "KONG". It's a sound a breaking glass. So it's the sound of the shattered glasses.
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Post by: Mina on August 24 2006, 08:14 am
This chapter is crazy.... the fact that there is not xxxHolic next week is crazy... CLAMP can be so mean sometimes  :sad5:
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I was so shocked after reading the chapter, I stared at the last page in disbelief for a while...Then I realized I had teared up... I just reread the chapter and I teared up again... I hope Watanuki lives... he has to, right? He doesn't deserve this >_<
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Post by: Rekall on August 24 2006, 10:21 am
CLAMP is evil, lol.

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It was sweet though how concern Doumeki was over Watenuki, wanting to make sure Watenuki waited for him after school once he found out the balloon was given away.  Those two keep on getting closer and closer; I agree with those who say the blood is probably Doumeki's.
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Post by: Chibi on August 24 2006, 10:44 am
Wow, Clamp is EVIL. How dare they keep giving me these cliffhangers? First Tsubasa and now xxxholic!

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OMG WATANUKI!!! I hope he's okay. I bet that evil Himawari had something to do with his falling.

Do you think that Watanuki should've had the balloon with him because it might've somehow helped him float and not crash down like that? Maybe it was this incident that Haruka predicted.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: zod on August 24 2006, 01:06 pm
Thanks for the translations.
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Post by: Arcademan on August 24 2006, 01:20 pm

Seriously, we do need separate thread for xxxHolic, so we can discuss the anime and manga separately...not jumbled up all together.

Sounds like a good idea so here's how it's going to go:

 XXXHolic Direct Episode Downloads (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=2834.0) - Use the Anime download thread to discuss the anime version of xxxHoLic.

Use this thread to discuss the manga version of xxxHoLic. Spoilers tags may be used but the word 'Possible Spoilers' will appear in the thread titles so if someone doesn't want to be forewarned, tread with caution.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: quimmy on August 24 2006, 09:02 pm
I was linked to quite a wonderful xxxHOLiC theories site. ^^ THis is the theory that stood out the most, IMO

"Maru and Moro: Now here's a theory I read a while back in a discussion forum and I was suprised it didn't occur to me before! There are numerous similarities and connections between xxxHolic and Card Captor Sakura with the obvious one being Yuko and Clow Reed. HEAVY CCS SPOILERS! --> Now remember how Clow Reed split his soul in two and reincarnated himself as two certain people, well what if Yuko wanted to do the same should she ever lose her life and who would she want to reincarnate her soul into? Good thing she happens to have two little girls without souls running around the place.<-- END OF CCS SPOILERS Coincidence? Nup, preparation!"

http://www.casualsmirk.com/xxxholic/predictions.php is the site, if anyone wants to see it.
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Post by: lynalar on August 24 2006, 09:38 pm
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Haruka  (Doumeki's grandfather) told Watanuki they'd meet again in a dream.  Since Haruka can see the future, I'd imagine this means Watanuki will live. But oh the possibilities with this developement!  I can think of SO many ways this can go.

  1) Watanuki is seriously injured and causes some more character development between him and Doumeki
   2) Doumeki saved him and is the one hurt...and either causes Watanuki to connect more with him or
  3) Push him away in fear that Doumeki will end up killed like his parents did
   4) Doumeki dies and that's how Watanuki's wish is granted because Doumeki's death protects him in some way (not likely)
  5) Watanuki doesn't get seriously hurt but now KNOWS Himawari means serious bad stuff for him and maybe we finally learn just what she is
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Post by: Mimie on August 24 2006, 10:18 pm
yeah, i agree with lynalar (btw, good theories there) but from the looks of all those glasses i think someoe was seriously hurt. I mean, you can die from something like that!
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Post by: xxxholic on August 25 2006, 03:00 am
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Haruka (Doumeki's grandfather) told Watanuki they'd meet again in a dream. Since Haruka can see the future, I'd imagine this means Watanuki will live. But oh the possibilities with this developement! I can think of SO many ways this can go.

 1) Watanuki is seriously injured and causes some more character development between him and Doumeki
 2) Doumeki saved him and is the one hurt...and either causes Watanuki to connect more with him or
 3) Push him away in fear that Doumeki will end up killed like his parents did
 4) Doumeki dies and that's how Watanuki's wish is granted because Doumeki's death protects him in some way (not likely)
 5) Watanuki doesn't get seriously hurt but now KNOWS Himawari means serious bad stuff for him and maybe we finally learn just what she is

I have a feeling, most likely, it will be number 2.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: selenityshiroi on August 25 2006, 06:01 am
I don't think I've ever anticipated the next chapter of Holic quite so much.

Admitidly, I only caught up recently, but still...

Clamp need to quit with the week break cliffhangers.  They are EVIL.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Rekall on September 03 2006, 05:43 pm
Just found these Ch117 spoilers from here: http://clamp-hikari.livejournal.com/2590.html.  I have no clue how accurate it is.

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in the darkness
Watanuki as a little kid crying: It hurts, I can’t move… Where are mother and father?
Father and mother reached for Watanuki with hands that are covered in blood.
Watanuki gets lifted but his glasses fells and shatters.
Parents extending their bloody hands: Sorry. We can’t be with you. Make you feel loneliness. Make you feel pain.
Parents: You’ll definitely meet. Can wait for you. So your future doesn’t 途切(Road ardently?). So don’t disappear. Our precious child. Another one of…
The arms disappear. Watanuki cries and chase after it but Haruka him.
Haruka: Made it. That person cannot go through dreams, but if not like this I wouldn’t be able to stop you. (Don’t ask me who) Next time let’s meet in a real dream.

Watanuki wakes up and finds Yuuko beside him. Coincidently Doumeki saw Watanuki falling from the 2nd floor and was going to call an ambulance but she stops him and told him to bring Watanuki to her shop.

Yuuko: Only a little bit and it’s going to be too late.

When Watanuki babbles about his price, Yuuko replied she already received from 3 people.

And Behind Yuuko, Himawari appears…
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on September 03 2006, 05:54 pm
Just found these Ch117 spoilers from here: http://clamp-hikari.livejournal.com/2590.html. I have no clue how accurate it is.

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in the darkness
Watanuki as a little kid crying: It hurts, I can’t move… Where are mother and father?
Father and mother reached for Watanuki with hands that are covered in blood.
Watanuki gets lifted but his glasses fells and shatters.
Parents extending their bloody hands: Sorry. We can’t be with you. Make you feel loneliness. Make you feel pain.
Parents: You’ll definitely meet. Can wait for you. So your future doesn’t 途切(Road ardently?). So don’t disappear. Our precious child. Another one of…
The arms disappear. Watanuki cries and chase after it but Haruka him.
Haruka: Made it. That person cannot go through dreams, but if not like this I wouldn’t be able to stop you. (Don’t ask me who) Next time let’s meet in a real dream.

Watanuki wakes up and finds Yuuko beside him. Coincidently Doumeki saw Watanuki falling from the 2nd floor and was going to call an ambulance but she stops him and told him to bring Watanuki to her shop.

Yuuko: Only a little bit and it’s going to be too late.

When Watanuki babbles about his price, Yuuko replied she already received from 3 people.

And Behind Yuuko, Himawari appears…

I can actually believe that being true.  [hurry up, Wednesday!]

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His parents did die protecting him, remember the divination story?  I've always wondered what they were protecting him from.  I know it was a road accident, but the protect part always piqued my interest.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 03 2006, 06:20 pm
amazing spoilers O.O halfway belevable too. too bad the earliest the scans will be out is tuesday on that chinese site >_<

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i wonder who the 3rd person who paid the price is?
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Post by: quimmy on September 03 2006, 08:48 pm
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Well, Himawari's one, and Doumeki is most definitely the other one...Kohane-chan? That could be her purpose.
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Post by: Rekall on September 04 2006, 02:00 am
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I've been wondering who the 3rd person was too and I have no clue.
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Post by: kuma on September 04 2006, 02:29 am
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what is Himawari doing in yuuko's shop?
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Post by: nefadol on September 04 2006, 06:15 am
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Well, only those that have a great desire or wish can see and enter her shop.  So if Doumeki and Himawari truly want to help Watanuki, then they'd probably be able to see and enter it.
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Post by: xxxholic on September 04 2006, 07:52 am
I'm not really liking these spoilers. I have a feeling it's not true considering they got the Tsubasa one wrong.
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Post by: Renaya on September 04 2006, 08:11 am
the spoiler kinda confused me I guess -_-

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why watanuki's parent has something to do with all of this...though I kinda hope seeing them too  :keke:, and Himawari just pop up at Yuuko shop just like that??

still, we don't know for sure whether this is true or not
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Post by: Kirtai on September 04 2006, 10:54 pm
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Probably not, but it'd be nice if  Yuuko was the third person, ne?
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Post by: falka on September 05 2006, 05:11 am
the spoiler may be true because the issue of Yanmanga this chapter is in is already out in Japan...
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 06:46 am
^ It's out? Hmmm....so the scans should show up on the internet in the next few hours...hopefully. I'm curious.
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Post by: Rekall on September 05 2006, 08:09 am
It's out?!  Yay! I'm dying to see what happens! *starts hitting refresh on LJ*
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 09:30 am
I've checked the chinese websites as well but nope, so far, no one has scanned it yet.
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 02:56 pm
ch.117 is out! It's a really interesting chapter!

http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/70800446/

Password: tongku

courtesy of http://www.tsubasa2005.com/bbs/thread-4336-1-1.html

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A very nijce chapter for fans of DoumekixWatanuki! On page 11, Haruka said he has to look like "Doumeki" to help Watanuki because if he doesn't look like Doumeki, Watanuki would have gone with his parents, which means, dead. That says alot! That probably means that the only person who Watanuki will live for is Doumeki. *faints*
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Post by: Jeannette on September 05 2006, 03:09 pm
Oooh, thanks... Hm, those spoilers seem to have been pretty much correct.
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It's so sweet that Haruka saved Watanuki. ^^ He saved his grandson's future husband's life, aww. So much W/D-ness. <3333 And Himawari's in Yuuko's shop... nope, not good.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 03:09 pm
:O wow pretty cool. O.O
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 03:11 pm
Oooh, thanks... Hm, those spoilers seem to have been pretty much correct.
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It's so sweet that Haruka saved Watanuki as a little kid. ^^ He saved his grandson's future husband's life, aww. So much W/D-ness. <3333 And Himawari's in Yuuko's shop... nope, not good.

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Yeah. And she doesn't look like what she usually does. It's strange. She has that evil look with her. Or should i say unpleasant.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 03:12 pm
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Yeah. And she doesn't look like what she usually does. It's strange. She has that evil look with her. Or should i say unpleasant.
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i felt it too...a sort of chill coming off of her O_O
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Post by: mela on September 05 2006, 03:12 pm
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I agree, something looks off about Himawari. Hmmm
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 03:18 pm
Okay, i'm doing the translation right now for those who can't read Chinese! ^_^
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Post by: Rekall on September 05 2006, 03:22 pm
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A very nijce chapter for fans of DoumekixWatanuki! On page 11, Haruka said he has to look like "Doumeki" to help Watanuki because if he doesn't look like Doumeki, Watanuki would have gone with his parents, which means, dead. That says alot! That probably means that the only person who Watanuki will live for is Doumeki. *faints*

Knowing that makes me so happy! XD

CLAMP loves their fans so much (now).
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Post by: selenityshiroi on September 05 2006, 03:23 pm
Gah, my comment was eaten!

I can recognise the kanji for chichi and haha (don't know the Chinese pronounciation) so I was able to read most of the first half of the chapter! LOL

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It's a shame we don't see Watanuki getting rescued, although I suppose its possible that we might see it as flashbacks.  Poor Kimi-kun is all battered and torn.  He does get rather bashed up in this manga.

I assume Haruka is stopping Watanuki from following his parents into death.

NO!  Watanuki!  Don't walk into the light!

And Himawari...in Yuuko's shop...looking all serious...

Not Good.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 03:24 pm
Okay, i'm doing the translation right now for those who can't read Chinese! ^_^
thankies!!! ^^

is the righting on the sides of the last page the "end cap" thingy? or just randome chinese adverts?

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A very nijce chapter for fans of DoumekixWatanuki! On page 11, Haruka said he has to look like "Doumeki" to help Watanuki because if he doesn't look like Doumeki, Watanuki would have gone with his parents, which means, dead. That says alot! That probably means that the only person who Watanuki will live for is Doumeki. *faints*
hnnn... i like that alot ^^
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that pushes that pairing closer to canon now ^^ *fangirl sqeeeeel*
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Post by: nefadol on September 05 2006, 03:43 pm
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Is it me, or are the timelines for xxxHolic and Tsubasa getting closer together.  Before they were around 10 chapters apart, but now they're really close.  Yuuko is wearing the same clothes as she is in Tsubasa right now (poor Watanuki was falling out of a window while she was dealing with the Tsubasa gang >_<).

Didn't Clamp say that xxxHolic would end soon after something is revealed, could it have to do with Himawari being at Yuuko's?

At least there's no two wait for quite a while. ^_^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 03:47 pm
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Is it me, or are the timelines for xxxHolic and Tsubasa getting closer together.  Before they were around 10 chapters apart, but now they're really close.  Yuuko is wearing the same clothes as she is in Tsubasa right now (poor Watanuki was falling out of a window while she was dealing with the Tsubasa gang >_<).

Didn't Clamp say that xxxHolic would end soon after something is revealed, could it have to do with Himawari being at Yuuko's?

At least there's no two wait for quite a while. ^_^
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i didnt notice that. perhaps she dealt with the TRC gang after saving watenuki? (or having haruka save him... remember in the spoiler haruka aparently says "that person cannot go thru dreams" perhaps he was talikng about yuuko...)
a person after falling out of a 2 story window would be unconcious for some time, so maybe while he was recooping in his bedroom at her house, she was delivering the water...(that would also explain the especcialy grim look on her face when she was stoping kuro from beating up real syao for wearing the bat sybmol)

either that or im just rambling XP
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 03:50 pm
thankies!!! ^^

is the righting on the sides of the last page the "end cap" thingy? or just randome chinese adverts?
hnnn... i like that alot ^^
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that pushes that pairing closer to canon now ^^ *fangirl sqeeeeel*

the chinese words on the sides of the last page are like, previews. Well, not really previews, but they put questions there just to make people anticipate the next chapter, i guess.

3 more pages till translation complete!
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Post by: nefadol on September 05 2006, 03:53 pm
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i didnt notice that. perhaps she dealt with the TRC gang after saving watenuki? (or having haruka save him... remember in the spoiler haruka aparently says "that person cannot go thru dreams" perhaps he was talikng about yuuko...)
a person after falling out of a 2 story window would be unconcious for some time, so maybe while he was recooping in his bedroom at her house, she was delivering the water...(that would also explain the especcialy grim look on her face when she was stoping kuro from beating up real syao for wearing the bat sybmol)

either that or im just rambling XP

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No, she was dealing with them early that morning.  When he woke up Maru and Moro said that she was in the treasure room with Mokona and that he still had to make breakfast.  He had wanted to talk to Yuuko about his dream, but obviously couldn't.  On his way to school he ate the bento with Kohane and gave her the balloon, went to school and talked to Doumeki, and then fell out of the window.  Now he's back at Yuuko's house with a creepy looking Himawari.

I think that sums it up, for the most part.  Basically Yuuko had her hands full saving Fai, so I wouldn't put it past her being the one to have Haruka save Watanuki.
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Post by: mela on September 05 2006, 03:59 pm
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No, she was dealing with them early that morning.  When he woke up Maru and Moro said that she was in the treasure room with Mokona and that he still had to make breakfast.  He had wanted to talk to Yuuko about his dream, but obviously couldn't.  On his way to school he ate the bento with Kohane and gave her the balloon, went to school and talked to Doumeki, and then fell out of the window.  Now he's back at Yuuko's house with a creepy looking Himawari.

I think that sums it up, for the most part.

Yeah, I think you pretty much summed it up.
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Plus, it's not like she didn't have plenty of other reasons to look grim, there was the whole Syaoran thing, the whole eye thing, people were all hurt and the situation surrounding the Tsubasa gang was pretty depressing...
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 04:06 pm
The translation is here!

Enjoy, sorry for any mistakes! :sweatdrop: I've tried my best!  :)

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Page 1
Watanuki enters death road!!!
People need a wish for life
Also, people need to know the concept of death.
In addition, the most important thing that must be acknowledged is...

Page 2
Watanuki: This hurts.
Watanuki: My body hurts, i can't move.

Page 3
Watanuki: This hurts.
Watanuki: This really hurts, i can't move.
Watanuki: Dad, mom, where are you guys?
Watanuki: This hurts, i'm so scare!
Watanuki: Dad, mom.

Page 4
Watanuki: Mom
Watanuki: Dad

Page 5
Watanuki: Dad, Mom
Mom and Dad: Sorry
Mom and Dad: We couldn't let you be with us.
Mom and Dad: Sorry
Mom and Dad: You have become so lonely.
Mom and Dad: You have become so hurt.
Mom and Dad: Sorry.

Page 6
Mom and Dad: But
Mom and Dad: You will definitely meet...
Mom and Dad: Someone who will be waiting for you....
Mom and Dad: Who won't disappoint your future......

Page 7
Mom and Dad: Being able to see you.
Mom and Dad: And talk with you.
Mom and Dad: People who will be with you.
Mom and Dad: So

Page 8
Mom and Dad: PLease.
Mom and Dad: Don't disappear.
Mom and Dad: Our precious child.
Mom and Dad: There's still something....

Page 9
Watanuki: Wait! Dad, Mom, don't go!
Watanuki: I'll go with you

Page 10
Haruka: I made it.

Page 11
Haruka: It's a good thing that i still look like Shizuka's age.
Haruka: He wasn't able to come in the dream.
Haruka: But, if i didn't look like him, i wouldn't be able to stop you.
Haruka: Good. It's calling you.
Haruka: You need to return now.

Page 12
Haruka: Let's meet again in a real dream.
Watanuki: I...

Page 13
Yuuko: You fell down.
Yuuko: You fell down from the second floor at school, with the shattered glasses.
Yuuko: Coincidentally, Doumeki was down there and he saw it, he was going to call for the ambulance.
Yuuko: But i called for him and told him to bring you to my shop.
Yuuko: To save time.

Page 14
Yuuko: You were in a state of emergency.
Yuuko: But, there was someone who went to stop you, right? While you were in the dream of hell.
Watanuki: Then, Yuuko-san....rescued me?
Yuuko: Yes.

Page 15
Watanuki: I guess the price...is very high.
Yuuko: I already received it.
Watanuki: Eh?
Yuuko: I received it from three people.

Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 04:14 pm
wow. thanks O.O
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Post by: xxxholic on September 05 2006, 04:18 pm
You're welcome. :)
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Post by: Rekall on September 05 2006, 04:21 pm
Thank you so much xxxholic!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 04:21 pm
hmm..
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from what watenuki's paretns say,

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Mom and Dad: But
Mom and Dad: You will definitely meet...
Mom and Dad: Someone who will be waiting for you....
Mom and Dad: Who won't disappoint your future......

.... we all know who they mean, right? ^^;;

btw...has anyone else noticec the similar pattern between xxxholic and TRC?

you have a shonenai pairing.
one person gets seriosuly injured, near death even
more and more hinting of the pair persues
CLAMP officialy canons the pair.

in TRC:
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kurofai is the pair.
fai gets seriosuly injured and is going to die...
mmuch hinting ensues: Kuro's speach about fai, how he [protected fai from his won magic, punchuing that hole in the wall.
then ch 125 canons it by kuro willing to do anythung to ensure fai does not die. even binding himself to him.

in xxxholic:
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watenuki-doumeki is the pair (btw...is there a short way of saying that?)
watenuki falls out the 2nd story window and is aparently in the "dream world of hell" willing to follow his parents to the underworld.
some hinting in this chapter, what watenuki's parents say, about the "person who wont disapoint him"
......

theres still soem time for xxxholic, cuz watenuki only just got hurt... but its sure to happen...

has something like that ever happened in any of the other mangas with shonenai piars?
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Post by: nefadol on September 05 2006, 04:41 pm
hmm..
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from what watenuki's paretns say,

.... we all know who they mean, right? ^^;;

btw...has anyone else noticec the similar pattern between xxxholic and TRC?

you have a shonenai pairing.
one person gets seriosuly injured, near death even
more and more hinting of the pair persues
CLAMP officialy canons the pair.

in TRC:
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kurofai is the pair.
fai gets seriosuly injured and is going to die...
mmuch hinting ensues: Kuro's speach about fai, how he [protected fai from his won magic, punchuing that hole in the wall.
then ch 125 canons it by kuro willing to do anythung to ensure fai does not die. even binding himself to him.

in xxxholic:
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watenuki-doumeki is the pair (btw...is there a short way of saying that?)
watenuki falls out the 2nd story window and is aparently in the "dream world of hell" willing to follow his parents to the underworld.
some hinting in this chapter, what watenuki's parents say, about the "person who wont disapoint him"
......

theres still soem time for xxxholic, cuz watenuki only just got hurt... but its sure to happen...

has something like that ever happened in any of the other mangas with shonenai piars?

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That can both be interpreted as for Doumeki or Yuuko, but probably for Doumeki.

On the injured aspect, that can also be viewed in Tokyo Babylon.  It took Seishirou being seriously injured for Subaru to realize that he loved him.  But in that case, he flat out admitted his feelings to himself.  Don't know if we'll be that lucky here. ^_^'
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 05 2006, 04:46 pm
it also happened in CCS...atleast the anime...i never read the manga so im not sure of that <_<
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Post by: nefadol on September 05 2006, 05:05 pm
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Watch the reason why Himawari isn't right for him is that they're really related or something. >_<

I think the reason why Haruka said that it was good that he still looked like Doumeki was because of familiarity.  In Tokyo Babylon when Subaru went into Mitsuki's mind (an old childhood friend that he hadn't seen in years), he said that it would be easier to pull her out of the dream if she remembered him.

So that's why I think that Haruka said that.  He probably would have gotten a bit more resistance from Watanuki if he looked unfamiliar, like how Kamui reacted to Subaru in X.  Except in this case it's a dead spirit entering a death dream, but it's generally alike.
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Post by: Rekall on September 05 2006, 06:32 pm
btw...has anyone else noticec the similar pattern between xxxholic and TRC?

you have a shonenai pairing.
one person gets seriosuly injured, near death even
more and more hinting of the pair persues
CLAMP officialy canons the pair.
Yes! Ever since the rumoured spoilers were released I've been wondering if Yuuko healed Watenuki using the vampire blood she had previously gotten from the twins for their payment to travel dimensions, lol.

has something like that ever happened in any of the other mangas with shonenai piars?

Lets see... (various CLAMP spoilers ahead)

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Wish - It took Kohaku being forced to return to Heaven before he and Shuichiro realized their love for each other.  No near death experience but they both were under the impression they would never see each other again since Kohaku wouldn't be allowed to return to Earth, which is probably worst.

CCS - Yukito got hurt before Touya and him got together.

MKR - Eagle almost dies before he and Lantis start to realize their feelings.  Although they never admit it to each other by the end of the story, you have the main character, Hikaru, trying to set them up because she knows, so I'm counting it. :P

Tokyo Babylon - it took Seishirou getting hurt for Subaru to admit his love.

X - Kamui's feelings for Fuuma are not clear until after Fuuma joins the Dragons of Earth, which resulted in a huge injury towards Kamui which he wouldn't have recovered from if it wasn't for Subaru and it the start of Fuuma molesting Kamui ever chance he got.

Legal Drug - Kazahaya would have died a couple of times now if it wasn't for Rikuo.

RG Veda - it takes Ashura going into his God of Destruction mode before Yasha realizes he loves him more than as father/son, which almost resulted in his own death but Ashura stabs himself instead.
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Post by: Renaya on September 05 2006, 08:26 pm
Thanx for the scans link and the translation...^^!!

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so, basically how Watanuki was saved after he fell is not exactly desribed, it's just Doumeki saved him and bring him to Yuuko shop, now why would Yuuko said that this would save time than calling ambulance...?does it means before it's too late for Watanuki to enter the death realm..hmm...i think so. And about Yuuko receiving from 3 people....who could they be, either Doumeki, Haruka and Himawari or Watanuki's parents and...... :confused: . And who exactly Himawari is ??>< bad omen to Watanuki..?

I guess for the answer  I just have to find out next week, and there will be no break until ch 120   :greengrin:
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Post by: falka on September 05 2006, 09:40 pm
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I highly doubt that Yuuko is one of the people paying for saving Watanuki's life because she is the one who is granting the wish...
now, another crazy theory
Kurogane owes Yuuko for the water so maybe he is this third person she received the payment form...
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Post by: Renaya on September 05 2006, 09:50 pm
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I highly doubt that Yuuko is one of the people paying for saving Watanuki's life because she is the one who is granting the wish...
now, another crazy theory
Kurogane owes Yuuko for the water so maybe he is this third person she received the payment form...

hmmm ..interesting theory
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but I think Kurogane owe Yuuko for the water that watanuki collected, not for saving his life, or is it gonna be the same?
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Post by: falka on September 05 2006, 10:01 pm
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well, I just think that Yuuko can arrange Kurogane's payment in such a way that it can somehow contribute to saving Watanuki...
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Post by: whatever on September 05 2006, 10:12 pm
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While I do agree that something is off with Himawari, the fact that Yuuko even let her in the shop must mean she doesn't truly mean Watanuki harm ( I hope). Didn't Yuuko say something like "Himawari's a good girl, isn't she?" or something like that in the ghost story arc? Also, doesn't Himawari look like a grown-up version or Moro-dari? The one with the blue hair, I mean.

I didn't realize Yuuko received vampire blood as her price in TRC. That certainly explains Watanuki's recovery. He sort of looks like Fai lying there with all those bandages.
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Post by: Renaya on September 05 2006, 10:41 pm
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wait, wait.. how do you know that Yuuko received vampire blood from the twin as payment ?? also, I don't think that's the reason for Watanuki recovery since that will make Watanuki a vampire then , and the fact he wears bandages is because  he's got nothing to do with vampire's blood
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Post by: whatever on September 06 2006, 12:02 am
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I don't know that Yuuko received vampire blood from Subaru and/or Kamui as payment. I can't find the post but someone else mentioned it earlier. I don't understand the whole vampire blood thing, just that it's supposed to be healing if used a certain way.
I was just noting the parallel between fai being bandaged up in TRC and now Watanuki. I doubt CLAMP would turn Watanuki into a vampire when they already have Fai!Vampire
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Post by: nefadol on September 06 2006, 02:04 am
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That's just how Clamp bandages people when they're cut from head to toe, no significance there.

I don't think that Kamui and Subaru gave Yuuko blood to travel.  All they said was:

Subaru - I have a request. I would like to have water, enough to fill this underground reservoir.
Yuuko -  ...There is a price.  The same as when I gave you two the means to cross dimensions as twins.
Subaru - I understand.

I think what it means is that she's just telling him that an equal price must be paid for the water, she's pretty much saying "I don't need to explain myself, right?".  It doesn't necessarily mean that they gave her blood.

Kurogane's payment may come into play, as xxxHolic is a few hours ahead of where Tsubasa is right now.  I doubt it though.  All I have to say is that Clamp is back to being their bloody sadistic selfs, now both Tsubasa and xxxHolic's main characters are being abused.  Hopefully the angst stays at bay in xxxHolic. -_-
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Post by: xxxholic on September 06 2006, 02:56 am
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MKR - Eagle almost dies before he and Lantis start to realize their feelings. Although they never admit it to each other by the end of the story, you have the main character, Hikaru, trying to set them up because she knows, so I'm counting it. :P

Did that really happen?! In the anime or the manga?
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I remember when i watch the anime, there were only a bit of hints toward the LantisxEagle pairing. i was a huge fan of it and was hoping for more of them but it never happened. Are they an official canon pairing? In the anime, HIkaru was in love with Lantis, but i'm not sure if Lantis really liked her back considering he never said anything but i figure they're in love. But when did hikaru ever try to set them up and she knew?! Wait, did that happened in the manga? I'm curious because i'm a huge fan of Lantis and Eagle but was disappointed that there wasn't much in the anime.
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Post by: Rekall on September 06 2006, 03:30 am
Did that really happen?! In the anime or the manga?
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I remember when i watch the anime, there were only a bit of hints toward the LantisxEagle pairing. i was a huge fan of it and was hoping for more of them but it never happened. Are they an official canon pairing? In the anime, HIkaru was in love with Lantis, but i'm not sure if Lantis really liked her back considering he never said anything but i figure they're in love. But when did hikaru ever try to set them up and she knew?! Wait, did that happened in the manga? I'm curious because i'm a huge fan of Lantis and Eagle but was disappointed that there wasn't much in the anime.

Yeah it was in the manga.
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During when Hikaru and Eagle were off determining who would be the new Pillar, Hikaru tells Eagle: "You like Lantis don't you?  And I'm sure Lantis likes you...Princess Emeraude and Zagato were the same."

And then later near the end this convo happens between Lantis and Hikaru:

Lantis: In your country, what do people say to confess your love?
Hikaru: Will you marry me...perhaps?
Lantis: Marry?
Hikaru: It's a promise to always be with the one you love!
Lantis: Is there someone you want to marry?
Hikaru: Lantis...and Eagle! ^^

I'm not sure if Lantis/Eagle is an official canon pairing though since they never admitted their feelings for each other because Eagle is still in a coma recovering from his illness by the end of the series.  They definitely like each other though and Hikaru knows.

As for Hikaru loving Lantis, she says she loves everyone.   She admits to loving Lantis, Eagle, Fuu, Umi, Clef, Presea, Ferio, Ascot, Kardina, Lafarga...etc, all equally.

^__^
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Post by: Jeannette on September 06 2006, 03:39 am
Did that really happen?! In the anime or the manga?
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I remember when i watch the anime, there were only a bit of hints toward the LantisxEagle pairing. i was a huge fan of it and was hoping for more of them but it never happened. Are they an official canon pairing? In the anime, HIkaru was in love with Lantis, but i'm not sure if Lantis really liked her back considering he never said anything but i figure they're in love. But when did hikaru ever try to set them up and she knew?! Wait, did that happened in the manga? I'm curious because i'm a huge fan of Lantis and Eagle but was disappointed that there wasn't much in the anime.
Totally OT: I've not seen the anime, but there were a lot of hints toward the pairing in it, enough so that I was really annoyed by the ending because I fell in love with Lantis/Eagle too.
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What really happens is that Lantis basically proposes to Hikaru. He tells her she's a lot like Eagle, and then he asks her how people in her world confess their love, and she says that people confess their love by getting married. He doesn't know what 'marriage' means, so she tells him that it means a promise to stay together always. He asks her who she wants to marry, and she says she wants to marry Lantis -and- Eagle. Lantis looks confused and asks if you can marry more than one person. Hikaru says no, but that she loves Lantis and Eagle. And she also loves Umi and Fuu and Clef, and on and on, and wants to be with all of them forever. xd
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 06 2006, 03:40 am
I have a feeling that Doumeki might sacrifice his life  :cry:
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Post by: Kirtai on September 06 2006, 04:28 am
Can you do that?  Now that you say that though, where is Doumeki? Can he still not come inside? If he paid, he had a wish...
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Post by: Kazuki on September 06 2006, 04:39 am
I don't think Doumeki would sacrifice himself.
Yuko already said that she doens't kill people because there's no price as high as death or something like this...

And Doumeki also had a wish when he gave part os his sight to Watanuki but even then he couldn't go into Yuko's shop...

Wow, Holic just keeps getting better and better!
And Doumeki and Watanuki keep getting closer and closer! xD

It's a shame that it's published in a shounen magazine... because of that DouWata won't be "canonized"! i_i
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Post by: nefadol on September 06 2006, 04:40 am
I don't think Yuuko would take the payment if it meant it would take the persons life, take Kurogane for example.  Besides, she's said earlier in the series that she will not take a life.
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Post by: lynalar on September 06 2006, 07:48 am
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yuuko mentions 3 people who paid the price for Watanuki's survival.  I not only wonder who those three are but what their prices were.
   We can probably rule Yuuko, herself, out.

  Himawari is probably one.  If it isn't something sinister on her part, which somehow I don't think it is, she always seems concerned for Watanuki.  If a bit clueless.

  I think we can safely assume Doumeki is one.  I could have a fangirl/shipper hope that he's bound to protect Watanuki for the rest of his life as payment...but I know Clamp won't be that nice. :p

   As for the third...I keep coming back to Haruka or Kohane.  If it is Haruka...his price may have been keeping Watanuki from following his parents into death during his death dream.  Or he may have done that simply because he seems to like Watanuki.

  I could see Kohane doing it because Watanuki has been the only person to treat her like a real person and not an object.

  So hey...does Doumeki get to care for Watanuki while he convalesces?  *evil grin*
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Post by: nefadol on September 06 2006, 08:32 am
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So hey...does Doumeki get to care for Watanuki while he convalesces? *evil grin*

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That depends on if he can enter Yuuko's shop.  If he made a wish, then he may be able to. ;)
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 06 2006, 02:46 pm
I don't think Doumeki would sacrifice himself.
Yuko already said that she doens't kill people because there's no price as high as death or something like this...

And Doumeki also had a wish when he gave part os his sight to Watanuki but even then he couldn't go into Yuko's shop...

Wow, Holic just keeps getting better and better!
And Doumeki and Watanuki keep getting closer and closer! xD

It's a shame that it's published in a shounen magazine... because of that DouWata won't be "canonized"! i_i

In one conference said that XXXHOLiC is considered as shoujo too, ahh I wish they will be canonized! :cry:
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Post by: xxxholic on September 06 2006, 04:23 pm
In one conference said that XXXHOLiC is considered as shoujo too, ahh I wish they will be canonized! :cry:

Yeah both CLAMP and the animation studio for XXXHolic considers XXXHOLIC to be shoujo. Despite the fact that it's being published in a shounen magazine, it can be shoujo.
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Post by: Renaya on September 06 2006, 10:56 pm
does anyone realize
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how nice and comfy the room/bed watanuki slept on...VIP for sick person  :hehe:, and just wondering, do you  think that the kimono that Yuuko wear is the same with the one she wear when she's talking with TRC's gang for the latest chapter?? I wonder if the event with TRC is after or before the accident..?
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Post by: nefadol on September 07 2006, 02:26 am
does anyone realize
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how nice and comfy the room/bed watanuki slept on...VIP for sick person :hehe:, and just wondering, do you think that the kimono that Yuuko wear is the same with the one she wear when she's talking with TRC's gang for the latest chapter?? I wonder if the event with TRC is after or before the accident..?

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Yep, it's the same outfit (you can always tell where both series correlate to each other by what Yuuko's wearing).  She was talking to them that morning when Watanuki woke up, Maru and Moro told him she was in the treasure room when he asked where she was (which is where she is currently in TRC).
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Post by: nefadol on September 07 2006, 02:35 am
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Yep, it's the same outfit (you can always tell where both series correlate to each other by what Yuuko's wearing). She was talking to them that morning when Watanuki woke up, Maru and Moro told him she was in the treasure room when he asked where she was (which is where she is currently in TRC).

I had expained the days timeline a couple pages back...

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No, she was dealing with them early that morning.  When he woke up Maru and Moro said that she was in the treasure room with Mokona and that he still had to make breakfast.  He had wanted to talk to Yuuko about his dream, but obviously couldn't.  On his way to school he ate the bento with Kohane and gave her the balloon, went to school and talked to Doumeki, and then fell out of the window.  Now he's back at Yuuko's house with a creepy looking Himawari.

I think that sums it up, for the most part. Basically Yuuko had her hands full saving Fai, so I wouldn't put it past her being the one to have Haruka save Watanuki.

[edit] - Sorry about double posting, didn't mean to do that. :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 07 2006, 04:11 am
Where can you download the scans for this chapter?(117) I know the translations out but I haven't found the scans...
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Post by: nefadol on September 07 2006, 04:30 am
Where can you download the scans for this chapter?(117) I know the translations out but I haven't found the scans...

This page (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=3171.200) in Chinese, or you can get the Japanese raw at Ladydarkmoon's LJ (http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/121597.html#cutid1).
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 07 2006, 05:12 am
or read it online scasnsnated in english here:

http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga
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Post by: Jeannette on September 07 2006, 06:50 am
Chibiyuuto's posted the cleaned up Japanese scans by Ladydarkmoon at the Room of Requirement. (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/tsubasa-holic/) ^_^ Just thought I'd let you all know. Yeesh, I'm already anxious for next week's chapter. xd
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Post by: Chibi on September 07 2006, 07:22 am
This was a great chapter! I really hope the next chapter explains Himawari. I don't trust her, especially with that look she gave at the end of this chapter. ><
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Post by: Sandra-chan on September 08 2006, 05:02 am
Thank you for the scans!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 08 2006, 09:00 am
heh...i think it may be a bad choise of words to have yuuko say "coincidentialy" when she mentions doumeki... her motto IS "there are no coincidences, only hisutzen" :lol:
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Post by: Renaya on September 09 2006, 10:30 am
heh...i think it may be a bad choise of words to have yuuko say "coincidentialy" when she mentions doumeki... her motto IS "there are no coincidences, only hisutzen" :lol:
ahahaha, that's so true ^_^
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Post by: Renaya on September 11 2006, 08:22 am
no info for xxxholic ch 118...?
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Post by: xxxholic on September 11 2006, 10:02 am
no info for xxxholic ch 118...?

Was there any spoilers for this chapter? I haven't come across any yet.....I want some sort of spoilers. I want to know who are the three people. But considering the raws coming out in less than 10 hours excites me!
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Post by: Touei on September 11 2006, 09:44 pm
*scurries back after searching for HOLiC spoilers at LJ*
There are some spoilers for 118 here~ http://cienna.livejournal.com/61515.html#cutid1
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Post by: Renaya on September 11 2006, 10:52 pm
the chinese scans for holic 118 already out in this website http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/71924187/, BUT I don't know the password....>.<...can someone help with that  :sad5: ..?
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Post by: Jeannette on September 12 2006, 12:05 am
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Apparently Himawari -did- know that she was causing Watanuki trouble, and has been doing so since he was a little kid!?

I wish I knew that password... I'll keep looking on my friends page on LJ- maybe somebody will put the password up soon.
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Post by: falka on September 12 2006, 12:19 am
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I always felt that something is off with Himawari, and now it turns out that she's been messing with Watanuki's life since his early childhood!!! Evil b****!
I hope that Watanuki will be able to move on and  forget about it in Doumeki's safe strong arms

waaah! where is that password!  the suspense is killing me!!!
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Post by: Touei on September 12 2006, 01:13 am
the chinese scans for holic 118 already out in this website http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/71924187/, BUT I don't know the password....>.<...can someone help with that  :sad5: ..?

Ah! 8D Yay!
The password is: shenshi
*goes to read/look at*
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Post by: Kjesta on September 12 2006, 01:19 am
Thank you infinitely (right word?) much, Znuese! *cookie*
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 01:44 am
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After looking at that and reading the summary at Cienna's LJ, she's really like Seishirou.  I had said that as a joke once, but maybe it's correct.  He didn't feel any emotion when he did terrible things.  She's evil in that sense, I think.  No curse in the least.  Gah, even Watanuki's parents.

They said that xxxHolic would end soon after something was revealed, this was probably it. >_<

[edit] - Actually, now I'm rather doubtful of her paying to save him.  But gah, the more I think of it, the more she is like Seishirou.  Evil love child he forgot about? :dodge:
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 12 2006, 01:54 am
that was fast XD
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Post by: Jeannette on September 12 2006, 02:29 am
Hmm... well, Himawari is creepy definitely.

Translation. (http://x-reggg.livejournal.com/102038.html)
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 02:31 am
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I'd feel a little bit sorry for her if she wasn't all ^_____^ the whole chapter.

She definately has Seishirou's personality, but she's harmful in a completely different way.  It unintentional, but she isn't affected emotially by the results of her bad luck.  Take back what I said earlier, she isn't responsible for his parents, but she is bad luck incarnate. -_-
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Post by: selenityshiroi on September 12 2006, 03:06 am
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I don't think she's evil, just really resigned to things.

All her life she hasn't been able to get close to anyone, without fear of them suffering. Then she meets Watanuki and he sticks by her, despite the bad things happening to him. She must have been rather lonely and then, all of a sudden, she has a friend who REALLY seems to like her...

She's smiling all the way through, but she looks like she's smiling to stop herself from crying.

I feel so sorry for her. Not sorry enough that I want Watanuki to declare his undying love for her and promise to stick by her forever (Watanuki/Doumeki fangirl here!) but sorry enough that I hope Watanuki and Doumeki insist on remaining friends with her.

Imagine, all your life with only your parents for company...unless you want to put anyone else at risk...

Maybe she hoped that Watanuki and Doumeki would be different because of their own spiritual natures.
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Post by: Jeannette on September 12 2006, 03:15 am
I actually agree with selenity- she's not evil persay, she's just resigned to it all. Poor girl, even if she is UBER creepy. I mean, what must it have done to her psyche to have all those things happen just because she was around?
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 03:19 am
Now that I think about it, I feel both sorry for her and creeped out.  Just reading the script she sounds sad and remorseful, but looking at the scans with her smiling the way she did creeped me out. o_O
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Post by: Kirtai on September 12 2006, 03:41 am
Maybe it's like Fai?  I feel so sorry for her, just like was said, if she just didn't look so happy! But maybe it is like Fai... smiling to cover up the pain...
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Post by: Sandra-chan on September 12 2006, 04:10 am
Well I've never liked Himawari very much, and seeing her tell all this to Watanuki with that big smile on her face..
Maybe it's like Fai? I feel so sorry for her, just like was said, if she just didn't look so happy! But maybe it is like Fai... smiling to cover up the pain...

Maybe, but I don't understand why she's been with Watanuki and Doumeki all this time. Was it just to see if Watanuki  would notice that all bad stuff happening was because of her and then she would just leave, and never see them again? Because when she said good bye it seemed like it...What was her intension?
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 04:17 am
She's either like Fai or Seishirou.  Fai's smiling face is a facade, but he deeply cares for others behind it.  Seishirou on the other hand, has no emotions.  Breaking a cup is the same as breaking an arm to him.  If the latter is true for her, then I can't really hate her.

But for the same token, she knew that she was bad for him.  When she did the pinky swear, she knew that it would cause him trouble, but she still did it either way.  In that sense, I lose some of my pity for her.
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Post by: Kjesta on September 12 2006, 04:23 am
She's either like Fai or Seishirou.  Fai's smiling face is a facade, but he deeply cares for others behind it.  Seishirou on the other hand, has no emotions.  Breaking a cup is the same as breaking an arm to him.  If the latter is true for her, then I can't really hate her.

But for the same token, she knew that she was bad for him.  When she did the pinky swear, she knew that it would cause him trouble, but she still did it either way.  In that sense, I lose some of my pity for her.

Agreed. Besides, I wouldn't like her to be like Fai. Fai's unique, he's like no other chracter I've ever come across in any series. He's special and one-of-a-kind and I don't want anyone else to be like him. (Especially not that b****, sorry!)
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 04:59 am
I think what the little ghost girl in Tokyo Babylon said may ring true here, "Maybe all people who do bad things are just really lonely".  Perhaps Himawari wanted to hang around Watanuki despite the fact that she knew she was bad for him because she was lonely.

If I think about it, isn't Doumeki for the most part not affected by her?  The only harm that has come to him that was linked to her was because he got in the way for Watanuki.
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Post by: whatever on September 12 2006, 05:28 am

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All her life she hasn't been able to get close to anyone, without fear of them suffering. Then she meets Watanuki and he sticks by her, despite the bad things happening to him. She must have been rather lonely and then, all of a sudden, she has a friend who REALLY seems to like her...

She's smiling all the way through, but she looks like she's smiling to stop herself from crying.

I feel so sorry for her. Not sorry enough that I want Watanuki to declare his undying love for her and promise to stick by her forever (Watanuki/Doumeki fangirl here!) but sorry enough that I hope Watanuki and Doumeki insist on remaining friends with her.

Imagine, all your life with only your parents for company...unless you want to put anyone else at risk...

Maybe she hoped that Watanuki and Doumeki would be different because of their own spiritual natures.

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I can just imagine the girl running home from Yuuko's and crying her little heart out on her bed. Because she thinks that Watanuki won't have anything to do with her now that she's told him the truth. If she thought he wouldn't have anything to do with her after the first accident (with the woman being hit by a truck) that's got to be what she's thinking now.

Thank yous to -
renaya: for scans link
Znuese: for password
Jeannette: for translation link
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 12 2006, 05:48 am
Well I've never liked Himawari very much, and seeing her tell all this to Watanuki with that big smile on her face..
Maybe, but I don't understand why she's been with Watanuki and Doumeki all this time. Was it just to see if Watanuki  would notice that all bad stuff happening was because of her and then she would just leave, and never see them again? Because when she said good bye it seemed like it...What was her intension?
well, she said she was surprised that watenuki stayed with her, even tho all sorts abd things happen...as for doumeki, his latent powers probably prtotected him from her...(maybe it was herself was a reaason she was always adamant in making those 2 hang out ^^
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Post by: Sandra-chan on September 12 2006, 06:08 am
Yeah, but I wonder if she will still hang out with them after this, or will she just leave and never return...
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Post by: nefadol on September 12 2006, 07:22 am
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I was thinking, perhaps the reason why Haruka had told Watanuki to take the balloon with him wasn't too protect him from Himawari, but to keep him from going into that death dream.
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Post by: lynalar on September 12 2006, 09:08 am
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perhaps Himawari *was* one of the three that paid a price to save Watanuki and her price was to walk away from him forever
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 12 2006, 01:25 pm
you really cant help but feel sorry for the girl tho :(
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didnt she say that her first boyvfriend comitted suicide? thats terrible not being able to keep any friends ;_;
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Post by: Renaya on September 12 2006, 01:26 pm
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so..Himawari is just simply a bad luck for everyone, I thought that she just a bad luck for Watanuki only, since it doesn't have any effect on Doumeki (now, why is that..??). I'm guessing that Watanuki might ask Yuuko for a way to help Himawari with that, but the price must be very high for that

I agree what  you guys said that the way she smile is just like Fai or Seishiro, acting like that there is wrong with their life but actually the other way around. I think she already 'give up' for her 'curse', I mean where there is no way to cure that and she might knows that, that's why she acts always-smile-happy. And why Himawari always around Watanuki and Doumeki although she might know how it would affect them, I think that's because those two can handle all bad-lucks happened to them quite good, so Himawari can stick with them until the worst case happens-DEATH
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that's why she says "Sayonara" to Watanuki at the end of the chapter??

ps. thanx for Znuese and Jeannette for the password and translation, really appreciate that !! ^_^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 12 2006, 01:44 pm
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so..Himawari is just simply a bad luck for everyone, I thought that she just a bad luck for Watanuki only, since it doesn't have any effect on Doumeki (now, why is that..??).

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doumeki has latent spritual powers. it nulls watenui's power, so why shouldnt it null himiwari's curse?
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Post by: Renaya on September 12 2006, 01:53 pm
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doumeki has latent spritual powers. it nulls watenui's power, so why shouldnt it null himiwari's curse?
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owww...i see... that will explain it, how lucky Doumeki is, no wonder he will never need to enter Yuuko's shop . then again, still curios, why Himawari able to enter Yuuko's shop, does it means that she have some sort of wish that 'needs' to be fulfilled somehow.?
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Post by: Arcademan on September 12 2006, 02:09 pm
I know I said spoilers might be present but if you're going to use the tags, use them properly please. That's all I ask.
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Post by: xxxholic on September 12 2006, 03:01 pm
owww...i see... that will explain it, how lucky Doumeki is, no wonder he will never need to enter Yuuko's shop . then again, still curios, why Himawari able to enter Yuuko's shop, does it means that she have some sort of wish that 'needs' to be fulfilled somehow.?

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I think her wish is to get rid of the curse? Personally i think that's a high possibility. And that by the end of the manga, her curse will be gone. i hope so though because she's a very sad and poor girl.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 12 2006, 05:19 pm
heh...i get to make the scanslation this week forthe msn group... heres the first page XP

http://tinyurl.com/kypdc

is it readable?
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Post by: whatever on September 12 2006, 10:27 pm
Yes, it's readable. The word "needed" in Yuuko's speech bubble is a little iffy for some reason. The rest is fine.
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Post by: Renaya on September 12 2006, 10:39 pm
I know I said spoilers might be present but if you're going to use the tags, use them properly please. That's all I ask.

so sorry about that...>.<...it's just sometime I can differentiate which one is spoiler and which is not.....so maybe I jut put spoiler tag on everthing fo safer :tongue:.
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Post by: lynalar on September 12 2006, 10:42 pm
It is readble though on my computer the text is a little spotty.  But because I have a laptop with very high resolution, that happens sometimes.  Thanks for putting those out!  I cannot imagine the sheer amount of work that has to go into that.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 13 2006, 04:12 am
thanks. i figured that if i shrink the image to below 700 hiegth (due to the tsubasabbs watermark) msn wont shrink the image ^^. im on page 8 right now :D
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Post by: Chibi on September 13 2006, 08:56 am
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Oh, I figured Himawari was the one causing bad luck to Watanuki, and I was right! I feel bad for Himawari, but she was all smiley which makes me want to scream "YOU'RE SO EVIL!!!"

Himawari just creeps me out.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 13 2006, 08:59 am
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Oh, I figured Himawari was the one causing bad luck to Watanuki, and I was right! I feel bad for Himawari, but she was all smiley which makes me want to scream "YOU'RE SO EVIL!!!"

Himawari just creeps me out.
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its not like she WANTS to be a jinx. she cant really help her aura is wrong.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 13 2006, 03:54 pm
scanslated (by me) :D

http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga/chapter118.msnw

demo...their hard to read beasue msn likes resizing the images  :dodge: (tho if you go "veiwimage" THEN you can see it :P)
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Post by: Renaya on September 13 2006, 05:19 pm
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is it possible that the priest whom Himawari taken to by her grandma is Haruka ..? (Doumeki's grandfather) since he seems to be okay...{nullifying effect?}
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Post by: Jeannette on September 14 2006, 09:26 am
Okay... Chibiyuuto just posted some spoilers (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98125.html) for 119. Obviously take these with a grain of salt.

According to these spoilers, the three who paid Watanuki's price are... *drumroll*
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Doumeki, Himawari, and... Real!Syaoran? Wtf?!

NO! Not MORE Syaoran!  :cry:
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 14 2006, 09:29 am
Okay... Chibiyuuto just posted some spoilers (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98125.html) for 119. Obviously take these with a grain of salt.

According to these spoilers, the three who paid Watanuki's price are... *drumroll*
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Doumeki, Himawari, and... Real!Syaoran? Wtf?!

NO! Not MORE Syaoran!  :cry:
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actualy it says CCS syaoran, the one that lives in that dimension O_o

thats funny tho XDDDD

damn tag <_<
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Post by: Jeannette on September 14 2006, 09:32 am
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actualy it says CCS syaoran, the one that lives in that dimension O_o

thats funny tho XDDDD

damn tag <_<
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it's R!Syaoran- Chibiyuuto still believes R!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 14 2006, 09:36 am
No,
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it's R!Syaoran- Chibiyuuto still believes R!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran.
ooooh. that i did not know <_<
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Post by: nefadol on September 14 2006, 09:36 am
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Well, this frame in chapter 107 always bugged me, and there's always been speculation about Watanuki being related to Clow in the fandom.

(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6137/107wa5.jpg)

Clow did know about Watanuki, as Yuuko had said that both she and him thought he was a good kid.  R!Syaoran is supposed to be a blood relative of Clow Reed afterall.

This is all very confusing. >_<
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Post by: Renaya on September 14 2006, 10:25 am
0_o
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never thought that Watanuki and R!Syao (which one again..?trc ones?) really have some connection , maybe they are related to Clow somehow, yet how...@_@...and what would those 3 persons pay with ..? Doumeki...no idea, Himawari...stay away from Watanuki..?, R!Syao.....even more no idea...-_-
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Post by: lynalar on September 14 2006, 10:36 am
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ok..maybe I'm remembering wrongly here, but I recall a while back yuuko thinking about both Watanuki and Syoaran and saying something to the effect of, I've got that one there working on it and this one here working on it.  Or some such thing.  And there was a picture of both Watanuki and Syoaran next to each other.  But maybe I'm completely out of my mind...which is entirely possible
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Post by: Rekall on September 14 2006, 04:32 pm
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Can't say I'm surprised that it's Syaoran.  I pretty much knew it was going to be someone from TRC since so many characters in that have used her (the foursome, Ashura, "The Gay Vampter Family of Love", etc) so I figured it'll either be someone we've already seen or someone we still have to meet.

And since Syaoran is Clow's descendant it's likely that Yuuko knew him before he got trapped by FWR. I just have a tendency to forget about Syaoran since TRC has been all about KuroFay and the Gay Vampter Family of Love recently (definitely not complaining about that!).
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Post by: Misfier on September 14 2006, 09:13 pm
Hey there I'm new!

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Syaoran?! This is the happiest week of my life /sarcasm right next to finding out that there will be a KH2:FM.

But seriously, I wasn't expecting this. So I think I was right in guessing that he is needed in TRC somehow. Which means HOLiC might end and the characters there will just jump over to TRC?
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Post by: Rekall on September 16 2006, 02:49 pm
Bad news.  After next week there will be at least two weeks without 'holic.

From here (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98359.html?style=mine#cutid1):

09/25 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 120 - Last chapter of tank 10.
10/02 - Young Magazine #44 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
10/07 - Young Magazine #45 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
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Post by: Kjesta on September 16 2006, 03:23 pm
Misfier, your icon is hilarious :XD:

Bad news.  After next week there will be at least two weeks without 'holic.

From here (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98359.html?style=mine#cutid1):

09/25 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 120 - Last chapter of tank 10.
10/02 - Young Magazine #44 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
10/07 - Young Magazine #45 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.

Noooo :cry:

That's plainly evil! And I could bet 120's gonna end with a cliffhanger since it's the last chapter of the tankobon.

But... Syaoran... Woah, wouldn't have guessed that. I wonder what he paid and why.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 16 2006, 03:33 pm
Bad news.  After next week there will be at least two weeks without 'holic.

From here (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98359.html?style=mine#cutid1):

09/25 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 120 - Last chapter of tank 10.
10/02 - Young Magazine #44 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
10/07 - Young Magazine #45 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
NOOOOO X( i hate thse breaks

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That's plainly evil! And I could bet 120's gonna end with a cliffhanger since it's the last chapter of the tankobon.
really? is there a vover for it yet?
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Post by: Renaya on September 16 2006, 07:35 pm
2 weeks without xxxholic chapters..??? CLAMP's really killing us,I hope they won't do the same with TRC.....so 2 chapters left before the cliffhanger
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Post by: Rekall on September 17 2006, 02:37 am
really? is there a vover for it yet?

Not yet but it should be out shortly after the end of Tank10 or at the beginning of Tank11.  The last one to come out was TRC16 and it's cover was released around the same time as the first chapter of #17.

2 weeks without xxxholic chapters..??? CLAMP's really killing us,I hope they won't do the same with TRC.....so 2 chapters left before the cliffhanger

TRC is good for now but they're not at the end of Tank17 yet so it's possible we'll have another break in it coming up soon.

At least during the 'Holic break we still have TRC.  I find the breaks are easier when we still have one of them to read each week, opposed to when they're both off the same week.
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Post by: Arcademan on September 17 2006, 03:09 pm
Peopel tend to forget...CLAMP is human!!!

They need a break now and then...get their thinking caps back on and give their arms a break from all that drawing :wink:
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 17 2006, 03:55 pm
im confused now. acording to chibiyuuto chaoter 119 is onsale, and 120 is next week...didnt 118 JUST come out tho? O_o
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Post by: nefadol on September 17 2006, 04:20 pm
im confused now. acording to chibiyuuto chaoter 119 is onsale, and 120 is next week...didnt 118 JUST come out tho? O_o

Read the dates:

09/16 - Young Magazine #42 - Chapter 119 (on sale).
09/25 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 120 - Last chapter of tank 10.
10/02 - Young Magazine #44 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
10/07 - Young Magazine #45 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.

xxxHolic and Tsubasa do not come out on the same day in Japan, 119 just came out yesterday (hence why the Chinese scanlations sometimes come out pretty early).
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 17 2006, 05:05 pm
oh. i didnt notic >_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 18 2006, 04:04 am
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The Syaoran thing was true! He must have paid a really huge price because

Doumeki-paid in blood equal to how much Watanuki lost
Himawari-his scars? She's got these scars on her back so its something like that.

I'm kinda relieved since it wasn't as serious as I thought.
I got these off a japanese blog that had skewed info to begin with, so thats not even half the story.

On a side note, even though given Watanuki's situation, I'd like to beat him with a blunt object. Hard. REALLY HARD. :angry:
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 18 2006, 05:28 am
SPOILER ALERT FOR xxxHOLiC 119

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The Syaoran thing was true! He must have paid a really huge price because

Doumeki-paid in blood equal to how much Watanuki lost
Himawari-his scars? She's got these scars on her back so its something like that.

I'm kinda relieved since it wasn't as serious as I thought.
I got these off a japanese blog that had skewed info to begin with, so thats not even half the story.

On a side note, even though given Watanuki's situation, I'd like to beat him with a blunt object. Hard. REALLY HARD. :angry:
wow.
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Real syao is a magician, direct descendnt of clow reed...he'd probably be the only one ABLE to pay the highst part.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 18 2006, 01:02 pm
!MAJOR SPOILER!

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Watanuki isn't giving up on his friendship with Himawari and he smiles at her(or something to the effect of it). Something about a chiffon cake(pink?)? Outside the door to the room where he is in is Doumeki STILL covered in Watanuki's blood (I mean cmon WTH O_o). Both are talking, Himawari starts crying saying she is happy to have Watanuki as her friend. Watanuki's little right finger wont move? Watanuki accepts that he never actually liked Himawari in a romantic way(something like that). Seems like he is talking to twins (Maru and Moro I presume?) and ?child?

Events in no particular order though.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 18 2006, 01:51 pm
!MAJOR SPOILER!

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Watanuki isn't giving up on his friendship with Himawari and he smiles at her(or something to the effect of it). Something about a chiffon cake(pink?)? Outside the door to the room where he is in is Doumeki STILL covered in Watanuki's blood (I mean cmon WTH O_o). Both are talking, Himawari starts crying saying she is happy to have Watanuki as her friend. Watanuki's little right finger wont move? Watanuki accepts that he never actually liked Himawari in a romantic way(something like that). Seems like he is talking to twins (Maru and Moro I presume?) and ?child?

Events in no particular order though.
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does that mean doumeki is INSIDE the shop? i thought he waswnt "allowed" in there?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Renaya on September 18 2006, 03:11 pm
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does that mean doumeki is INSIDE the shop? i thought he waswnt "allowed" in there?

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Idon't think is that Doumeki wasn't "allowed" in Yuuko's shop , but he "doesn't need" to enter the shop, but I am not sure in this case, maybe he need Yuuko's help desperately so he can enter right now in order to help Watanuki

the story will likely more talk more or less....well, what do you expect ^^, I always love every single chapter anyway
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Post by: Misfier on September 18 2006, 08:16 pm
I ran some blogs through an online translator and pretty much matched up the stuff that makes sense.  I want scans and professional trans . ;_;
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Post by: Touei on September 18 2006, 09:45 pm
News from chibiyuuto:
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according to the CLAMP internet radio show, the HOLiC manga will indeed be reaching it's climax soon. http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98663.html#cutid1 ~
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 19 2006, 12:25 am
News from chibiyuuto:
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according to the CLAMP internet radio show, the HOLiC manga will indeed be reaching it's climax soon. http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/98663.html#cutid1 ~

actually its XXXHOLiC manga ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 19 2006, 12:26 am
sorry XXXHOLiC anime i mean ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 19 2006, 12:30 am
!MAJOR SPOILER!

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Watanuki isn't giving up on his friendship with Himawari and he smiles at her(or something to the effect of it). Something about a chiffon cake(pink?)? Outside the door to the room where he is in is Doumeki STILL covered in Watanuki's blood (I mean cmon WTH O_o). Both are talking, Himawari starts crying saying she is happy to have Watanuki as her friend. Watanuki's little right finger wont move? Watanuki accepts that he never actually liked Himawari in a romantic way(something like that). Seems like he is talking to twins (Maru and Moro I presume?) and ?child?

Events in no particular order though.

on a other hand
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If we review XXXHOLiC Manga from the beggining until the recent chapters, as far as I remember; Watanuki never admits or announce that he likes Himawari on a romantic way. He just admired on her looks and her kindness but he never tell told to Yuuko he loves Himawari. Just as a thought (and I hope because I'm a DouWata fangirl) Himawari sees him as a friend and nothing more.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Rekall on September 19 2006, 06:46 am
Anyone know if scans of 119 are out yet?

sorry XXXHOLiC anime i mean ^^

Apparently it's both.  *points at link*  They said the anime would be at the climax soon and then added that the original work would also be at the climax soon.  The original is the manga so looks like it'll be ending soon as well.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: favila on September 19 2006, 07:19 am
I have found a japanese blog page with some images of chapter 119, http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-38.html.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: duchessa on September 19 2006, 07:31 am
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I have found a japanese blog page with some images of chapter 119, http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-38.html.
Wow, thank you.
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O_O Are those burn marks? Who is it? Watanuki or Doumeki?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: favila on September 19 2006, 07:35 am
Sorry to bother you ... how do I make a spoiler tag?
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Post by: Kazuki on September 19 2006, 07:39 am
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O_O Are those burn marks? Who is it? Watanuki or Doumeki?

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that's himawari! O.O
doumeki gave his blood and apparently she received watanuki's injuries...
I have no idea what's written, but that's the idea I got from those images!
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Post by: favila on September 19 2006, 07:42 am
I found it!
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Yeah, Himawari gets the scars, Doumeki gives the blood... and I don't what did Syaoran give (or why, by the way). It seems that Wata and Syao have a very strong bound
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Post by: duchessa on September 19 2006, 08:18 am
HOLY CRAP!
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I thought it was a guy's back. Just spotted the hair now.
Heh, I have no observation skills whatsoever.
Anyone found the whole chapter yet?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: envyofthestage on September 19 2006, 07:02 pm
*BIG EFFING SQUEE*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on September 19 2006, 07:34 pm
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When Yuuko sent Syaoran off to X!Tokyo in Tsubasa, she said that the price had already been paid, the relationship plus freedom and time as well.  The relationship part was for him to travel, as it was his "heart" so to speak that made that initial wish.

Could the "freedom and time" part have been for Watanuki, or was that just for transporting him to X!Tokyo?
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Post by: Mimie on September 19 2006, 08:37 pm
I think it was for transporing R!Syaoran to Tokyo. it could've been for Watanuki...oh! first time i saw Himawari-chan cry! And what are those scars on her back? I don't believe they're for payment though....
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 20 2006, 02:22 am
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yes. she has to bear watanuki's scars and doumeki had to give up blood eual to the mount watanuki lost.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kjesta on September 20 2006, 03:57 am
Woah, a thousand thankies!

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I still don't like Himawari... I still haven't forgiven her what she's, unintentionally or not, has done to Watanuki. (I appreciate it though that she is strong enough to take his scars.)

But shouldn't Doumeki be really weak now? Watanuki's blood loss was high and when Doumeki has taken it on himself, he should be as damaged as Watanuki after his fall now. You only have 5 litres of blood in your body (is that right...?) and it looks like he's lost quite a lot of it.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 20 2006, 03:58 am
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yes. she has to bear watanuki's scars and doumeki had to give up blood eual to the mount watanuki lost.

though I need this confirmation XD i think any fangirl likes these if this is true XDD

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Watanuki isn't giving up on his friendship with Himawari and he smiles at her(or something to the effect of it). Something about a chiffon cake(pink?)? Outside the door to the room where he is in is Doumeki STILL covered in Watanuki's blood (I mean cmon WTH O_o). Both are talking, Himawari starts crying saying she is happy to have Watanuki as her friend. Watanuki's little right finger wont move? Watanuki accepts that he never actually liked Himawari in a romantic way(something like that). Seems like he is talking to twins (Maru and Moro I presume?) and ?child?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 20 2006, 07:09 am
Woah, a thousand thankies!

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I still don't like Himawari... I still haven't forgiven her what she's, unintentionally or not, has done to Watanuki. (I appreciate it though that she is strong enough to take his scars.)

But shouldn't Doumeki be really weak now? Watanuki's blood loss was high and when Doumeki has taken it on himself, he should be as damaged as Watanuki after his fall now. You only have 5 litres of blood in your body (is that right...?) and it looks like he's lost quite a lot of it.
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ah, but manga characters have more then that. you remember how much blood fai possibly could have lost in trc...;)
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Post by: lynalar on September 20 2006, 07:33 am
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About the blood loss issue.  For one thing, blood usually tends to look a lot more than it really is. It makes a huge mess but isn't normally as much as one thinks it is.

  Now, I realize that Watanuki did lose a lot of blood. However, because Doumeki is bigger, he would have slightly more blood volume than Watanuki.

  Part of what would have killed Watanuki before intervention would most likely not have been just blood loss alone.  It would have been from the trauma and from shock.

  So Doumkei is probably pretty anemic right now (maybe why he's sitting and not in the room?) but seems otherwise ok.

  Now here's a horrifying thought.  It's Doumeki's blood that allows him to exorcise spirits. If Watanuki recieved his blood to live, does that mean he now has the means to his wish?

  On the other hand, if he DID recieve Doumeki's blood...then they share the eye and blood. Dang. Can't ask for a stronger bond than that, imo
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Post by: nefadol on September 20 2006, 07:43 am
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You know, I'm wondering if Doumeki saw the crash through his eye.  He said when Watanuki is unstable that he does, and I wouldn't put it past him seeing it.
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Post by: favila on September 20 2006, 07:49 am
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I think Doumeki probably saw through his eye ... at least it looked as if it was "active" since the moment Watanuki met Himawari (part of the pupil became white).
And now that I think of it, Doumeki's eye was also "active" when Wata told him that he had given the balloon to that girl ... he looked very worried too. I wonder if Wata was able to see through Domeki's eye at that moment...
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 20 2006, 09:41 am
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About the blood loss issue.  For one thing, blood usually tends to look a lot more than it really is. It makes a huge mess but isn't normally as much as one thinks it is.

  Now, I realize that Watanuki did lose a lot of blood. However, because Doumeki is bigger, he would have slightly more blood volume than Watanuki.

  Part of what would have killed Watanuki before intervention would most likely not have been just blood loss alone.  It would have been from the trauma and from shock.

  So Doumkei is probably pretty anemic right now (maybe why he's sitting and not in the room?) but seems otherwise ok.

  Now here's a horrifying thought.  It's Doumeki's blood that allows him to exorcise spirits. If Watanuki recieved his blood to live, does that mean he now has the means to his wish?

  On the other hand, if he DID recieve Doumeki's blood...then they share the eye and blood. Dang. Can't ask for a stronger bond than that, imo

same thought there, >_< I think Watanuki must realize this! He's too dense! and I hope he's not crazy over gaga to Himawari >_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Renaya on September 20 2006, 03:15 pm
where is the full chapter..... :cry:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: envyofthestage on September 21 2006, 04:36 am
Anyone got a link to the new chapter?

I still love Himawari, she is such a yaoi fangirl.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: G_chaN on September 21 2006, 12:06 pm
Can anyone help me where to find manga scans of xxholic other than BWYS? Thanks guys..
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Post by: Emiko on September 21 2006, 12:07 pm
G_chan...

http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLICManga/welcome.msnw

Here's a link to the Holic MSN group. You can read all the chapters right off the website, no downloading or anything. I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but it's pretty convenient for people like me whose computers seem to hate storing files.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Kirtai on September 21 2006, 01:06 pm
It seems Lady Darkmoon is on vacation, so we won't be getting the scans from her...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 21 2006, 01:12 pm
i saw that. why hasnt the chinese site posted it yet either?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 21 2006, 01:27 pm
Whoever uploads it there is probably still reading it or couldn't get a copy of it or whatever.
From what little I could get from blogs it seems its pretty good.
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 21 2006, 08:22 pm
It seems Lady Darkmoon is on vacation, so we won't be getting the scans from her...

hello! she posted in her LJ that there's a holiday at Japan last monday. Usually the magazine ships on mondays. so it will be a little late. let's be patient ^^
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Post by: Misfier on September 22 2006, 12:42 am
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/73576513/

OMG! password pls! ;_;
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Post by: Touei on September 22 2006, 01:06 am
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/73576513/

OMG! password pls! ;_;
The actual files aren't uploaded yet, so there's no password D:

XXXholic119
[0张]
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 22 2006, 01:32 am
They're doing this on purpose I swear...! ;_;
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Post by: envyofthestage on September 22 2006, 02:00 am
*weeps*

I don't think LDM is on holiday, I think there's a holiday in Japan which stopped the magizine arriving on time.

Hahaha, Misfier! Spaced!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 22 2006, 02:10 am
*weeps*

I don't think LDM is on holiday, I think there's a holiday in Japan which stopped the magizine arriving on time.

Hahaha, Misfier! Spaced!

I'm talking about the chinese scans. The forums there are down. I think there is a conspiracy here.

You like the icon? XD
I think I'm gonna change it to that fanart I saw.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: faisama13 on September 22 2006, 05:43 am
lol hey we have the same icons XD i liked the fanart as well i have it posted on my yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/clampluv4eva/ there's alot of pics there if you're interested ^_^

anyway, on the subject of holic...WHEN WILL IT BE RELEASED!!?  :cry: i'm really starting to enjoy this series and for it to be this delayed is...is...well it's just plain TORTURE!!! oh well, can do anything about it but wait.     -_-
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Post by: Chibi on September 22 2006, 11:07 am
Gosh, the chapter isn't out yet? XD I've been reading the spoilers you guys have posted and it's making me so excited for the new chapter!
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Post by: xxxholic on September 22 2006, 12:55 pm
wow the chapter is still not out! I think by the time they release it, the next chapter will be out (IF there is a chapter next week)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on September 22 2006, 01:04 pm
There's a chapter next week and then a two week break, hope it's not a cliffhanger. -_-
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: be_z on September 22 2006, 03:41 pm
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/73576513/

OMG! password pls! ;_;

password is shanghen
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 22 2006, 04:06 pm
password is shanghen
THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: falka on September 22 2006, 06:19 pm
thank you veryu much for the link and password to the chapter!
now I need a translation!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 22 2006, 06:23 pm
thank you veryu much for the link and password to the chapter!
now I need a translation!
its posted on tsubasachronicles, but why bother when you have a scanslation? ^^
http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga/chapter119.msnw
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Post by: falka on September 22 2006, 06:30 pm
its posted on tsubasachronicles, but why bother when you have a scanslation? ^^
http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga/chapter119.msnw

thank you!
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Post by: envyofthestage on September 22 2006, 09:25 pm
Damn.
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It wasn't true then. The part that Watanuki said he never liked Himawari romantically. So, what's going to happen now? Is she going to stay or leave?
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 22 2006, 10:33 pm
Damn.
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It wasn't true then. The part that Watanuki said he never liked Himawari romantically. So, what's going to happen now? Is she going to stay or leave?

I just only saw the translation, I'm still waiting for the LDM's post... but damn...
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it wasn't true that Watanuki never liked Himawari on the romantic way

I feel your pain >_<
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Post by: nefadol on September 22 2006, 11:07 pm
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I'm thinking my theory that "freetime and time" part that was said in Tsubasa as Syaoran's payment for Watanuki was right, when Yuuko said it took him a long time to pay it.  This gives a whole different dimension to R!Syaoran in Tsubasa, and also ties Watanuki into the plot of that series.

He may like Himawari, but he can't be alone with her, he'd die in that case.  Doumeki still has to be with them. :keke:
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Post by: Chibi on September 22 2006, 11:19 pm
Thanks for the scanlation!

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So Watanuki really does like Himwari? But... but... DoumekixWatanuki!!!

I wonder what Syaoran paid though... I wish Yuuko-san told him! Maybe it'll be revealed in Tsubasa or something...
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 22 2006, 11:20 pm
Damn.
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It wasn't true then. The part that Watanuki said he never liked Himawari romantically. So, what's going to happen now? Is she going to stay or leave?

I just only saw the translation, I'm still waiting for the LDM's post... but damn...
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it wasn't true that Watanuki never liked Himawari on the romantic way

I feel your pain >_<
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I'm thinking my theory that "freetime and time" part that was said in Tsubasa as Syaoran's payment for Watanuki was right, when Yuuko said it took him a long time to pay it.  This gives a whole different dimension to R!Syaoran in Tsubasa, and also ties Watanuki into the plot of that series.

He may like Himawari, but he can't be alone with her, he'd die in that case.  Doumeki still has to be with them. :keke:

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well I'm waiting for the Japanese scans because we don't know what really say on "like" of course like can be friends or more than that. So I'm still hoping that Watanuki tries to comfort Himawari but based of what I've seen in the translation, I think it's more than that... so  :cry:
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Post by: nefadol on September 22 2006, 11:25 pm
Thanks for the scanlation!

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I wonder what Syaoran paid though... I wish Yuuko-san told him! Maybe it'll be revealed in Tsubasa or something...

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Well, in Tsubasa she said:

"Your price...has already been paid.  Your "relationship".  As well as 'freedom' and 'time'."

I'm guessing the latter half is for Watanuki.  All this definately explains the look he gave Watanuki in xxxHolic right before he left though.  Does this mean he willingly let himself be locked up for all those years? o_O
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Post by: favila on September 23 2006, 12:56 am
... oh. (Mori-sempai voice)
 :cry:
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... Doumeki was right, he is an idiot. It was so sad, to see him waiting outside the room, covered with Watanuki's blood, collapsed and sweating (he looked a lot like Fai a few chapters ago). And he is the last person Wata asks for.  :angry:
Anyway, there are a few things: about the finger, is it possible that he can't move because he is not being honest (like the woman of the beginning of the series)? And now Yuuko says that Doumeki and Himawari are customers of the shop, until their wishes are granted... does it mean they have other wishes?
I'm sad, but I don't want to lose the hope.... DouxWata forever!!!
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Post by: Misfier on September 23 2006, 01:34 am
Oh Doumeki! ;_;
Let's say I'm a person reading the whole series for the first time. Let's say I'm not a Donuts fangirl right now. I would say, "Why the hell do you let yourself get impaled time and again for this idiot?! Just what the hell does he mean to you?!"
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Post by: selenityshiroi on September 23 2006, 01:37 am
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My favourite bits from this chapter is Doumeki and Watanuki falling asleep at the same time (awwww!) and Doumeki telling Himawari that all three of them have to eat lunch together!

The Doumeki/Himawari thing is important because Doumeki hasn't really interacted with her before (unless is directly involved Watanuki) so for him to say that he wants her to hang around still a huge leap in their friendship.

And all three of them being friends leaves the relationships ambigous...although I don't see this chapter as being a Watanuki/Himawari shippy chapter, just a friendship one.

I had no doubt at all that Watanuki would insist on staying friends with Himawari.  That is just who he is.  He is willing to suffer for others (this, the ghost woman, Doumeki's eye...) so he won't let Himawari be lonely if he can help it.

Now that Himawari and Watanuki have had their heart to heart I can't wait for Doumeki and Watanuki to have theirs...especially now that Doumeki can ENTER THE SHOP!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 23 2006, 01:39 am
... oh. (Mori-sempai voice)
 :cry:
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... Doumeki was right, he is an idiot. It was so sad, to see him waiting outside the room, covered with Watanuki's blood, collapsed and sweating (he looked a lot like Fai a few chapters ago). And he is the last person Wata asks for.  :angry:
Anyway, there are a few things: about the finger, is it possible that he can't move because he is not being honest (like the woman of the beginning of the series)? And now Yuuko says that Doumeki and Himawari are customers of the shop, until their wishes are granted... does it mean they have other wishes?
I'm sad, but I don't want to lose the hope.... DouxWata forever!!!

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let's not jump into conclusion first, honestly I was panicked, but after what they told me. I think we should calm down ourselves. First of all, I think Watanuki is trying to comfort Himawari because he knew already her problem. Second he just asked about the bad luck thing... maybe he's concerned. Plus Watanuki doesn't know Doumeki is also paying a price until Yuuko told him. So I'm still having high hopes with DouWata.
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Post by: Sandra-chan on September 23 2006, 02:33 am
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Post by: Misfier on September 23 2006, 02:47 am
I'm afraid of what Watanuki would do with his relationship with Doumeki. Being the person he is he can't just keep on accepting Doumeki's sacrifices like this and take it in stride.
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 23 2006, 02:49 am
hi sandra-san! try this type first "spoiler" and then the end of the sentence put "/spoiler" and don't forget to put brackets ^^
hope it helps ^^

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Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 23 2006, 03:40 am
ladydarkmoon upped the scans. So much from her love ^^

http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/122959.html#cutid1

enjoy ^^
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Post by: whatever on September 23 2006, 06:09 am
its posted on tsubasachronicles, but why bother when you have a scanslation? ^^
http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga/chapter119.msnw

Thank you for the scanslation. You did that very quickly.
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Post by: xxxholic on September 23 2006, 07:05 am
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this is a good chapter but i'm starting to really really dislike Watanuki. I mean, what the hell? Doumeki has been sacrificing his life for Watanuki, and all Watanuki does is act stupid and rude around him. I guess he's just not being honest. But the fact that Watanuki asked about Doumeki last really pisses me off. All he cared about in this chapter was Himawari, not a bit of Doumeki. So i hope there is some bit of caring for Doumeki next week. I still have hope for DouWata.
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Post by: selenityshiroi on September 23 2006, 07:27 am
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this is a good chapter but i'm starting to really really dislike Watanuki. I mean, what the hell? Doumeki has been sacrificing his life for Watanuki, and all Watanuki does is act stupid and rude around him. I guess he's just not being honest. But the fact that Watanuki asked about Doumeki last really pisses me off. All he cared about in this chapter was Himawari, not a bit of Doumeki. So i hope there is some bit of caring for Doumeki next week. I still have hope for DouWata.

Um, sometimes last is good.

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It's more dramatic for him to ask about Doumeki last...it gives time for a longer/better answer or (as will probably happen here) for the answer to be given at a later date.  I suspect that next weeks chapter will be all about Doumeki and his wish/price.

Emotionally, he might be more nervous when asking about Doumeki...in case it shows how worried he is about him.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 23 2006, 08:19 am
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this is a good chapter but i'm starting to really really dislike Watanuki. I mean, what the hell? Doumeki has been sacrificing his life for Watanuki, and all Watanuki does is act stupid and rude around him. I guess he's just not being honest. But the fact that Watanuki asked about Doumeki last really pisses me off. All he cared about in this chapter was Himawari, not a bit of Doumeki. So i hope there is some bit of caring for Doumeki next week. I still have hope for DouWata.
Um, sometimes last is good.

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It's more dramatic for him to ask about Doumeki last...it gives time for a longer/better answer or (as will probably happen here) for the answer to be given at a later date.  I suspect that next weeks chapter will be all about Doumeki and his wish/price.

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thats right. imean, here he just spent the past 5-10 minutes hearing himiwari's awful secret, and he didnt wnt her to be sad about it or to worry to much about him. THEN he heard about doumeki, jsut as he was falling alseep. he's just too nice for his own good. im lso betting ch 120 will be a doumeki-watanuki (is the fanbase really called DONUTS? O_o) centric chapter. also, relize doumeki is ALSO weak. he just gave prolly 1-2 pints of his blood, MAGICALY even. both boy's need their rest. THEN we'll get the doumeki-watanui angst we've been deaming of  ^_^
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Post by: Kirtai on September 23 2006, 08:55 am
Waa, the shonen ai is wore out in both series! Can't get in tsubasa for Fai's sleeping, now this!
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Post by: xxxholic on September 23 2006, 09:31 am
Um, sometimes last is good.

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It's more dramatic for him to ask about Doumeki last...it gives time for a longer/better answer or (as will probably happen here) for the answer to be given at a later date. I suspect that next weeks chapter will be all about Doumeki and his wish/price.

Emotionally, he might be more nervous when asking about Doumeki...in case it shows how worried he is about him.

That makes sense.
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Post by: Renaya on September 23 2006, 09:41 am
hmmm....from all of this I dunno whether xxxHolic will come to the end or not, and if Watanuki still wanna be with Himawari then this story can still go on, and I assume this end together with TRC..? btw, who's again the main character in this series..?is it watanuki or Yuuko...?

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my....that's a really bloody payment, DOumeki--->give blood, Himawari-->got scars (and hideous one too), no wonder she doesn't want Watanuki to know that, coz it will make Watanuki thinks " What have I done to the back of this lovely girl..?", well not that it's his fault in the first place, he falls because of her and Himawari just take responsibility...I think...and just wondering how they do the blood transfer for watanuki from Doumeki, since they are not in the hospital, and I think Yuuko just did it magically :tongue:
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Post by: lynalar on September 23 2006, 10:43 am
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I've seen several translations of what was said.  Evidently the japanese fan sites were saying how Watanuki was saying friendship type stuff with Himawari.  Now some I've seen are saying how he likes her the most and whatnot...but several others put it squarely in the "I like you alot and your friendship makes me happy and I don't want you to go away" category.

   I'm rather inclined to believe the latter.  For one thing, Himawari doesn't react to him as if he gave her the "I'm in love with you" speech.  She's happy he still wants to be friends but also still happily and contentedly walks away from him. While she cries because she is happy to have him as a friend...her walking away from Yuuko's is not the actions for somebody who was told "I love you."

  Besides, if just being friends with her is dangerous...think what being romantically involved would cause?

  Anyway...I did notice the (coincidence?) timing of Watanuki and Doumeki falling asleep at the same time.   Oh...the possibilities!  *rubs hands in fan girl glee*

  Anywho....I can't wait til the next chapter comes out
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Post by: whatever on September 23 2006, 10:56 am
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  Anyway...I did notice the (coincidence?) timing of Watanuki and Doumeki falling asleep at the same time.   Oh...the possibilities!  *rubs hands in fan girl glee*

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Yes, that reminds me of a fanfic I read on Fanfiction.net and it's also posted on the Deep Connection livejournal community. I can't remember the title right now but it dealt with Doumeki seeing his grandfather in his dream because of sharing his eye with Watanuki. I don't think that's going to happen here but it certainly is interesting with them both being in Yuuko's house.

So the vampire blood theory was way off. I'm glad. But it's such a puzzle about how involved Syaoran is in all the events. How much does he really know about Yuuko and Clows plans?

Did anyone else notice Yuuko's butterflies fluttering around and shielding Watanuki while he was talking with Himawari?
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Post by: nefadol on September 23 2006, 11:24 am
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Yes, that reminds me of a fanfic I read on Fanfiction.net and it's also posted on the Deep Connection livejournal community. I can't remember the title right now but it dealt with Doumeki seeing his grandfather in his dream because of sharing his eye with Watanuki. I don't think that's going to happen here but it certainly is interesting with them both being in Yuuko's house.

So the vampire blood theory was way off. I'm glad. But it's such a puzzle about how involved Syaoran is in all the events. How much does he really know about Yuuko and Clows plans?

Did anyone else notice Yuuko's butterflies fluttering around and shielding Watanuki while he was talking with Himawari?

Well, Doumeki did say in a chapter that you don't see dreams with your eyes, so he wouldn't be able to see any dreams that Watanuki has.  The butterflies are just a pattern on Yuuko's transparent canopy.

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I wonder if Watanuki will want to thank Syaoran, all he has to do is use Mokona.  That would be interesting.
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Post by: whatever on September 23 2006, 11:47 am
The butterflies are just a pattern on Yuuko's transparent canopy.

Ah, just me trying to see things that aren't there. Oh well.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 23 2006, 02:23 pm
i thought they were flying around too, actual "spirit" butterflies :-/
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 25 2006, 12:14 am
I wish we had an omake about when Doumeki and Watanuki first met. Apparently they got into a big fight. I believe that would answer some of our questions as to why they hated each other at first.

Watanuki hates Doumeki because he doesn't understand him and the stuff he does and it irritates him.

Doumeki? Well we never know his side of the story. I hope they answer some of that in the next chapter.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on September 25 2006, 10:01 am
^ I would like one. Or maybe a past sequence. Or flashback.
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Post by: whatever on September 25 2006, 10:59 am
btw, who's again the main character in this series..?is it watanuki or Yuuko...?

I know what you mean. When I was reading Volume 1 I had to keep reminding myself that Watanuki is the character that the manga is about - not Yuuko.
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Post by: xxxholic on September 25 2006, 02:21 pm
I always thought Yuuko is the main character because she's always in the covers. But the story definitely revolves around Watanuki.

But i would say they are both main characters with Doumeki the supporting character.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 25 2006, 04:30 pm
well the story is about watanuki, but i guess yuuko is the leading actress? :P

i take it theres no spoilers yet?
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Post by: mela on September 25 2006, 04:34 pm
well the story is about watanuki, but i guess yuuko is the leading actress? :P

i take it theres no spoilers yet?

I think there is no chapter scheduled for the next two weeks at least.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on September 25 2006, 04:58 pm
No, there's one this week.  There won't be a new one for three weeks after chapter 120, as there's going to be a two week break. T_T

09/25 - Young Magazine #43 - Chapter 120 - Last chapter of tank 10.
10/02 - Young Magazine #44 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
10/07 - Young Magazine #45 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.

This is normal whenever a new tankoubon is released, but it's annoying that it's happening right when things are getting good. -_-
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Post by: Renaya on September 25 2006, 07:37 pm
why would they stopped the released on the magazine if they want to release the tankoubun one?...so..2 weeks, cliff-hanger huh, well, at least I can still be entertained with TRC :p
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Post by: nefadol on September 25 2006, 07:58 pm
why would they stopped the released on the magazine if they want to release the tankoubun one?

I have no idea, it's just what they do with xxxHolic.  Could have something to do with the magazine it's run in, which is different from Tsubasa.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 25 2006, 11:09 pm
Volume 10 of xxxholic will be on sale November 17th.  Ooh~  :okay:

Chapter 120? It's getting positive feedback so it should be good but I can't understand what the 'bird' stuff is all about.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 25 2006, 11:47 pm
Volume 10 of xxxholic will be on sale November 17th. Ooh~ :okay:

Chapter 120? It's getting positive feedback so it should be good but I can't understand what the 'bird' stuff is all about.
bird? does that mean its not doumeki-watanuki centric? :-(
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Post by: Misfier on September 26 2006, 12:13 am
The 'bird' seems more like symbolism than anything else.
 
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He seems to have smiled gently at Doumeki but that's all I got. The board type thingy is over here. -> http://www.tsubasa.to/chronicle/saloon_bbs/comic/bbs.cgi?tree&thread=1151
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Post by: Renaya on September 26 2006, 01:14 am
sorry guys, but seriously, I don't understand what you're talking about ><  ..??....what's this"bird" stuff has anything to do with ch 120?
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Post by: Misfier on September 26 2006, 01:27 am
Ah wait I get it.

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The bird came from an egg (duh!)that was payment for the water drawn.

....EH?!!
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Post by: falka on September 26 2006, 01:31 am
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The bird came from an egg (duh!)that was payment for the water drawn.

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So it means that Sakura is looking for an egg...
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Post by: Renaya on September 26 2006, 01:42 am
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So it means that Sakura is looking for an egg...

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an egg..? is that what Sakura actually looking for, well at end of chapter 130 , she found some kind of flower-shape-something in the middle of a some 'lake' , but i dunno what's actually it is, since we lost the last page-_-.

so if that's true, then is this egg for watanuki ? ahaha, he will have another little pet other than the pipe fire fox (is that right?) ^^
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Post by: Sandra-chan on September 26 2006, 01:56 am
Yeah, it's a pity that one page was missing.. I hope better scanlations comes soon! :) Sakura was looking for an egg? Why would Yuuko want that...
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Post by: Misfier on September 26 2006, 02:17 am
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Watanuki has been asleep for 4 days. Something about Himawari. Yuuko gives him an egg? that was compensation for the water. He has a dream, seems kinda like a prophetic one. I don't get his next one "When you look at the expectation hand where the egg was riding the chick of one feather was there.". Does that mean what I think it means? Does he have one of Sakura's feathers?! O_O Something about Doumeki here and "spare time meeting" which means I guess they confronted eachother. Last here is where Watanuki smiles gently. At whom? I have no idea.
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Post by: lynalar on September 26 2006, 03:36 am
Ok...I'm getting a little lost here.  Are we now talking about spoilers for chapter 120? We went from talking who the main character is and  when chapters are coming out, then to birds and eggs...and nothing to explain the jump.

  I am picking up what people are talking about concerning the TRC crossover stuff, because I keep up on that manga (as I'm sure most everybody else here is).

  So..the bird and egg thing are spoilers for chapter 120 of XXXholic?
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Post by: Misfier on September 26 2006, 03:42 am
XD

Yes

I fail

...badly...
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Post by: xxxholic on September 26 2006, 03:50 am
I'm happy to hear that Watanuki and Doumeki will talk this chapter, hopefully alone.

But i hope Yuuko treats Doumeki his wounds because he looked painful! Of course, not with magic but with medicines and stuff.
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Post by: lynalar on September 26 2006, 05:19 am
If I'm not mistaken, I believe all the blood on Doumeki was Watanuki's and not his own.
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Post by: falka on September 26 2006, 06:12 am
I haven't yet found the whole chapter but you can find some images here: http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-44.html

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Sadly it turns out there will be no WatanukixDoumeki heart to heart in this chapter. Watanuki wakes up after 6 days and talks with Yuuko about Himawar (MEH!). Then she gives him the payment for the water - the egg (it most probably was indeed the item Sakura searched for). If I understand it right, the bird that hatched from the egg has the same abilities as Doumeki - it can nullify the effect of Himawari's curse(???)
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Post by: Misfier on September 26 2006, 07:14 am
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No DxW?! How can you leave it like that CLAMP?! And whats more is that its STILL about Himawari!
And then you dump this little pipsqueak on us!! GRRRRR-!!!!

*cheep*

>_>

*SQUISH*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 26 2006, 08:26 am
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no d-w? TT_TT damn. cute...wierd little...thingy... stupid <_<

*goes to pout in the corner*
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Post by: nefadol on September 26 2006, 11:07 am
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This weeks xxxHolic will be a spoiler for Tsubasa?  I swear, Yuuko plans ahead for everything.  Subaru's water and now Himawari's bad luck.  So cute, now he has another pet to take care of.  Doumeki and Watanuki'll get their turn, just wait. Just keep in mind what that fortune teller said! :keke:
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Post by: Renaya on September 26 2006, 11:49 am
aww......that little bird is so cute.....XD...will it follow Watanuki everywhere..? :keke:
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Post by: Senefen on September 26 2006, 12:55 pm
Cute bird ^^
Actually I'm kinda gald Himawari and Watanuki moved foward. I know DxW is a much more popular pairing but I think what happened stays more true to the characters. Watanuki has liked Himawari since the start, he still gets all hanyan when he's around her. He's still got a big crush. I'm glad they didnt just gnore that because Watanuki learnt how to be civil to Doumeki.
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Post by: Roxx on September 26 2006, 03:37 pm
Eh. It's obvious that Watanuki has certain feelings towards Doumeki. He may be all giggly around Himawari, but Watanuki's reactions towards Doumeki is like some elementary girl with a crush on a boy, but to cover up her feelings, she acts all bossy around rude around him. But personally, I think it's more that Watanuki is in complete denial about his feelings towards Doumeki. I just don't think he knows how to react to someone who really doesn't want him to 'disappear'

Anyways, for those who are bummed about the recent chapter... don't be =) DxW will get their moment. And they had tons of it before too =)
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Post by: Rekall on September 26 2006, 05:49 pm
Eh. It's obvious that Watanuki has certain feelings towards Doumeki. He may be all giggly around Himawari, but Watanuki's reactions towards Doumeki is like some elementary girl with a crush on a boy, but to cover up her feelings, she acts all bossy around rude around him. But personally, I think it's more that Watanuki is in complete denial about his feelings towards Doumeki.

I completely agree.  The way Watanuki acts around Doumeki really does seem like he's covering up his true feelings as he's in denial.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: falka on September 26 2006, 07:17 pm
I don't understand CLAMP recently. First they hint like whoa about their slash couples, and now it seems like they're kind of backing out, both in case of holic and tsubasa. ..

We all have thought that Watanuki's accident will strenghten his bond with Doumeki, and it only moved forward the relationship between Watanuki and Himawari (up to this point, I really hope there will be some donuts in upcoming chapters).
I know that CLAMP has mastered  the art of teasing the fangirls to perfection, but still I'm seriosly worried about the latest developments in their mangas...
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Post by: selenityshiroi on September 27 2006, 02:29 am
I shouldn't worry about all the Himawari development.  CLAMP spent several volumes of X working on the relationship between Kamui and Kotori and look what happened to her!  (Not that I want a Kotori fate for Himawari but Kamui/Fuuma is canon and Kamui/Kotori is not.)
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Post by: Bra-chan on September 27 2006, 02:55 am
CLAMP spent several volumes of X working on the relationship between Kamui and Kotori and look what happened to her! (Not that I want a Kotori fate for Himawari but Kamui/Fuuma is canon and Kamui/Kotori is not.)

yepp, that's true ^^

Watanuki just loves Himawari like a sister. They're friends, and we are speaking about Watanuki, it will be just not him, if he would leave alone Himawari with her bad luck.
I guess Himawari is a DouWata fan too  :tongue:

Anyway I am thankful cause I am not a girl character in a CLAMP story XDD
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Post by: Senefen on September 27 2006, 02:14 pm
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I disagree, I would say he definetly likes her,

watanuki: wait, himawari-chan, sorry
himawari: .....why?
watanuki: i scared you because i suddenly fell down like that as an apology, when i get better i'll make something to eat especially for you
page 2
himawari: what i said you heard it, didn't you.
watanuki: yeah but, i when i receive snacks from you, i'm extremely happy, if i see you then i'll feel great the whole day himawari-chan you call me "watanuki-kun", talk to me and laugh with me all of this is great being able to meet himawari-chan,

pg 5
watanuki: although there isn't anything to back it up, but no matter what i won't die because i like himawari-chan the most, i won't let you cry

pg 12
(His little finger wont move)
watanuki: it's... fine, but... about this please don't... tell himawari-chan i... like to see Himawari-chan's smile the most

I dont see sisterly love here, I know a lot of people really love DoumekixWatanuki but please dont be blind to whats going on because its against your fandom. I'm not saying that theres nothing going on between Watanuki and Doumeki but for now "i[Watanuki] like himawari-chan the most,"
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Post by: Roxx on September 27 2006, 04:13 pm
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I dont see sisterly love here, I know a lot of people really love DoumekixWatanuki but please dont be blind to whats going on because its against your fandom. I'm not saying that theres nothing going on between Watanuki and Doumeki but for now "i[Watanuki] like himawari-chan the most,"

I'm not going to diss you, but obviously, you're the one who is blind to Watanuki's character. I like Himawari, compared to the hints we've gotten for DxW, how many hints are there for HxW?

As for Watanuki's character, note that he has lost both of his parents. Now, someone, Doumeki to be exact, is always by his side, saving his ***. Watanuki's acknowledges that Doumeki's cares about him. But has he came to accept that? No. Because the people that cared for him, died for him. He doesn't want that to happen with Doumeki. Therefore, you get his, "let's push Doumeki away" actions. To simply put it, Watanuki is in denial.

Yes, Himawari does care for Watanuki, and even Yuuko does, but it doesn't meet up to how much Doumeki cares for Watanuki.

Just because you got your one chapter that is dedicated to HxW, please don't be blind by the recent chapters. Also, "because i like himawari-chan the most," if you say that in Japanese, "Himawari-chan ichi ban suki dakara, nakasenai," That can also be meant for friendship. I mean really. Even if he says, "I like Himawari the best," and he had to choose between, never seeing Yuuko again, or never seeing Himawari again, he wouldn't be able to choose.

Also, Watanuki took a big fall. Sometimes people say exaggerate things when they're /that/ hurt.

But I do agree with the whole sisterly love. I think it's more like strong friendship.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Ayune01 on September 27 2006, 04:16 pm
Hi :wink:

Sorry to budge in like this, but could anyone help me please?. I'm trying to find english scanlation of xxxholic vol10 chapter 118, 119 and latest chapters.

i cant open Be With You url. I'm already at my end :shifty:
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Post by: xxxholic on September 27 2006, 04:21 pm
Hi :wink:

Sorry to budge in like this, but could anyone help me please?. I'm trying to find english scanlation of xxxholic vol10 chapter 118, 119 and latest chapters.

i cant open Be With You url. I'm already at my end :shifty:

http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLICManga

You can try this site.
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Post by: Misfier on September 27 2006, 09:12 pm
I'd forgotten that its modus operandi for most manga plots to have their pairing get together near the end of the manga. And seeing as how xxxHOLiC still has at least 2 volumes to go, they're taking their dear time in slashing Doumeki's feelings to ribbons. I have a feeling that its gonna be Watanuki who'll end up salvaging their relationship, well, seeing as how he's also the main character, its how it should be.
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Post by: Senefen on September 27 2006, 09:28 pm
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Sounds like dissing to me...
 
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I like Himawari, compared to the hints we've gotten for DxW, how many hints are there for HxW?

As for Watanuki's character, note that he has lost both of his parents. Now, someone, Doumeki to be exact, is always by his side, saving his ***. Watanuki's acknowledges that Doumeki's cares about him. But has he came to accept that? No. Because the people that cared for him, died for him. He doesn't want that to happen with Doumeki. Therefore, you get his, "let's push Doumeki away" actions. To simply put it, Watanuki is in denial.

Yes, Himawari does care for Watanuki, and even Yuuko does, but it doesn't meet up to how much Doumeki cares for Watanuki.

Just because you got your one chapter that is dedicated to HxW, please don't be blind by the recent chapters. Also, "because i like himawari-chan the most," if you say that in Japanese, "Himawari-chan ichi ban suki dakara, nakasenai," That can also be meant for friendship. I mean really. Even if he says, "I like Himawari the best," and he had to choose between, never seeing Yuuko again, or never seeing Himawari again, he wouldn't be able to choose.

Also, Watanuki took a big fall. Sometimes people say exaggerate things when they're /that/ hurt.

But I do agree with the whole sisterly love. I think it's more like strong friendship.

As I said I'm not saying that theres nothing between Doumeki and Watanuki but the fact is Watanuki still gets all hanyan around Himawari. Sure he may have a deep passionate unspoken love for Doumeki, but at the same time he has a serious crush on Himawari and you cant treat it like its nothing. I think its clutching at straws to say Watanuki was exaggerating when he said those things to Himawari, I dont think CLAMP write like that *shrug*.
As for lack of HxW hints? I agree there are no little hints.
We have Watanuki getting mad whenever he's going out with her and Doumeki comes along too, walking around with this ->^_^ expressions whenever he's near her, collapsing with joy when ever she compliments him, blushing when the ghost-lady asked if he like her and thinking he's going to have a good day whenever she talks to him. While you have to rely on hints for him and doumeki its blantantly obvious he likes Himawari.
He likes her. Close friend? But they never spent much time together, Himawari avoided him a lot because she was scared he'd get hurt. When Yuuko asked what he likes about her he couldnt be specific.

To be honest I dont think they'll end up together in the end, I think CLAMP would have focused more on her character if they intended that. All I'm saying is that he likes her in a more than platonic sence, I'm not saying he doesnt feel the same way about Doumeki or anything. I'm just saying he sees her as more than just a good friend.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Roxx on September 27 2006, 09:36 pm
Lol, sorry if it sounded like dissing. My post wasn't meant to be harsh or anything.

No, I know what you mean. I'm just comparing the two, that's all. I'm not going to deny the fact that Watanuki acts all cheerful around Himawari. After all, she's adorable. But I act the same as Watanuki when I see one of my girl friends, who is absolutely cute, and I get all cheerful around her. Though I don't really have a crush on her. I think she's cute, adorable, and whatnot, but... Hmm. How do I explain this? It's more like an admiration kinda way? That's how I see it suppose. I'm sure Watanuki has a crush on her, but I don't think it's anything real real deep.

Anyhoo, once again, I apologize if my earlier post offended you.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: lynalar on September 27 2006, 10:19 pm
This is just my opinion, but here goes:

   Clamp usually hints at relationships. Out of all the manga and anime they have produced, how many couples are truly canon?  Even the ones that are considered canon, they often have been subtly shown to be a couple rather than outright.

  Do I like D x W ?  Sure I do.  But I can also deal with it if they make it H x W.  Not my chosen pairing, but hey.  The pairing I really can't see is Watanuki and the Vetal Sprite...and that's for a number of reasons.
   I could also see clamp doing something along the lines of making Doumeki, Watanuki, and Himawari being very close friends along the lines of Buffy, Willow, and Xander from BtVS. Let's face it...the people with extraordinary powers or abilities often don't get into serious relationships or stay in relationships if they do.  Not just Clamp universe but in a lot of sci fi and fantasy stories.

   Whether Watanuki and Doumeki become a canon pairing or not...well, I'd love it and I'll keep my fingers crossed.  But the anime isn't finished yet, we know Clamp likes lovely twists and turns to keep us guessing, and who knows how it will end.  No matter what, Clamp gave plenty of fodder to us D x W people and even if they don't end up canon in the manga or anime...that's what we have fan fiction for!  :)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 27 2006, 11:09 pm
I'm willing to accept if its gen or someotherpairing. I have faith in CLAMP's story telling skills.

But you really have to ask. Why does Doumeki do the things he does for Watanuki? Also I think Watanuki was the only one to make him smile.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 27 2006, 11:38 pm
EDITED BY ARCADEMAN:

Post deleted. Please use the spoiler tag system. Your only warning.

I'm sorry, won't happen again.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 28 2006, 12:45 am
Disclaimer: DOUWATA SHIPPER XD

Whoah! XD Well for the recent Holic chapter, I think Watanuki confesses his admiration to Himawari. First of all, Watanuki doesn't have a close *close* friend that been worrying around him. He does like Himawari but I don't think in a romantic sort of way, more like an admiration. Of course in return, Watanuki is happy because he didn't expect his *crush* or this cute girl in campus actually cares about him. Of course even I'm his situation, I'll be very happy. But lets not jump into conclusion that oh its HxW or DxW. In 119, he appreciates what Himawari is. Yes, he really appreciates her smile because she shows it.

On Doumeki, wow... The reason why us fangirls makes us squee because he saved Watanuki so many times. And Yuuko, just like CLAMP loves to throw hints. But in reality, Doumeki never confesses him, I mean obviously Doumeki likes Watanuki but we really don't know the certain extend. Right? Plus the reason why Watanuki *dislikes* Doumeki because he never *shows* his appreciation to him. I mean Doumeki wasn't direct to the point. In 119, "he said let's eat bento ... the three of us." What does he mean? He means he also accepts Himawari despite of her misfortune. Unlike Himawari, Doumeki acts louder than his words. That is why Watanuki sometimes pissed off because he never said thank you (in a nice way), he never smiles (if you notice he didn't show this to him on ghost lady arc) and calls him idiot. That is why Watanuki and Doumeki always fight. Plus he said in several chapters that Doumeki should say at least appreciates his lunch or something. And I agree with Roxx, Watanuki appreciates Doumeki (it said this on first dream with Haruka) in some other way. I think the reason why he had arguments with Doumeki because he's worried that someone will die because of him. Watanuki hopes Doumeki stay out of his trouble because one day he might disappear because of him. Of course Watanuki is too good, he doesn't want that.

If you asked me, will HxW happened, I don't think it will, even DxW is becoming hazy. It's more like "Character Centric Story" or Gen. Because the developments of the story is more like characterization and changes. I think I'm gonna be OK with that. If DxW may happened, I think this will be tragic.... :( Honestly most CLAMP manga are just like throwing hints and slash not official "canon"; The only official canon were Yukito and Touya in CCS.

But honestly, I won't give up hope on DxW ^_~ I still have hopes on them ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 28 2006, 12:55 am
even though ladydarkmoon or someother site may have the scans up by tomorrow I just wanted to share this little tidbit.

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According to one blog its said that Watanuki influenced the birth of the egg. And the bird has Doumeki's abilites. Their first baby! *gets bricked*

As I said the chapter is getting positive feedbacks but it doesn't seem like they were fangirling over HxW or DxW for that matter. I want to know whats so good about this chapter already so I guess I'll wait for tomorrow.

Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on September 28 2006, 01:41 am
Am I going to get bricked if I say that I can see Watanuki liking both Doumeki and Himawari?

I mean, I'm partial to DxW myself. They're definitely the pairing that I see the most between, and also the pairing that I'm cheering for in the end, but at the same time, I think that Watanuki honestly does like Himawari as more than a friend. Is it true love? Probably not. Watanuki's got a 'crush' thing going on, and it reminds me of Sakura and Yukito in CCS. For the longest time Sakura liked Yukito the best, but did that make him her soul mate? No.

I don't really see Himawari expressing any romantic feelings towards Watanuki either. Everything she did in 119 seemed to be very friendly and loving, but in a platonic sense. It's difficult to say with Doumeki because he IS very stoic.

Anyway. My point was supposed to be that yes, Watanuki does have a crush on Himawari, but that doesn't mean that DxW won't happen. In fact, judging by how Clamp is writing Holic, I'd say DxW is far more likely. As has been said, Himawari's character is only now getting any real development, and the main relationship in Holic (other than Yuuko and Watatnuki's) has been Watanuki's changing relationship with Doumeki.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: faisama13 on September 28 2006, 01:49 am
argh!!! i just want the bloody chapter to come out!! >_<* ::pounds head into wall:: lol i have NOOO patience what-so-ever. XD ::falls dizzy from too much head pounding::
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 28 2006, 02:10 am
Am I going to get bricked if I say that I can see Watanuki liking both Doumeki and Himawari?

I mean, I'm partial to DxW myself. They're definitely the pairing that I see the most between, and also the pairing that I'm cheering for in the end, but at the same time, I think that Watanuki honestly does like Himawari as more than a friend. Is it true love? Probably not. Watanuki's got a 'crush' thing going on, and it reminds me of Sakura and Yukito in CCS. For the longest time Sakura liked Yukito the best, but did that make him her soul mate? No.

I don't really see Himawari expressing any romantic feelings towards Watanuki either. Everything she did in 119 seemed to be very friendly and loving, but in a platonic sense. It's difficult to say with Doumeki because he IS very stoic.

Anyway. My point was supposed to be that yes, Watanuki does have a crush on Himawari, but that doesn't mean that DxW won't happen. In fact, judging by how Clamp is writing Holic, I'd say DxW is far more likely. As has been said, Himawari's character is only now getting any real development, and the main relationship in Holic (other than Yuuko and Watatnuki's) has been Watanuki's changing relationship with Doumeki.
thats how i see it. watanuki hs a huge crush on himiwari,but its not quite mutual. and watanuki has too big a case  of denial to see how he really feels about doumeki
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 28 2006, 02:12 am
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Watanuki's got a 'crush' thing going on, and it reminds me of Sakura and Yukito in CCS. For the longest time Sakura liked Yukito the best, but did that make him her soul mate? No.

Actually I'm having the same thoughts on them. I'm a Touya/Yuki shipper ^^ and loves CCS. I talked one of my LJ friends. I told her, what happened to Watanuki was liked happened to Sakura on Yukito. Of course Yukito so smart, handsome and kind... name it and Yukito's there. Sakura likes Yukito the best and it's like her first love. But they were never been soulmates. In fact Yukito pointed out the reason why Sakura likes him is more of familial love.

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it's difficult to say with Doumeki because he IS very stoic.
That's is why its so hard to predict if Doumeki likes Watanuki in a romantic or platonic because from the start he never showed any emotion except being protective to Watanuki.

Definetly Watanuki likes Himawari, sort of crush or admiration. She's cute and nice ... to everyone. Honestly I think Himawari was kinda admired to Doumeki because well like any other girl's thinking, Doumeki's an eye candy to the girls' crowd and Himawari is one them. (probably because he's in archery club and that is popular as what Watanuki's stated)  But I do see Himawari is a fangirl. I think I have to read the chapters again :P
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: falka on September 28 2006, 02:43 am
Lady Darkmoon's scans are out. You can find them here: http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/123286.html#cutid1
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 28 2006, 03:01 am
Soooo... more of Himawari again this chapter... Gaaahh!  :angry:

hoping for next chappie >_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: faisama13 on September 28 2006, 03:09 am
Soooo... more of Himawari again this chapter... Gaaahh! :angry:

hoping for next chappie >_<

ya uderstand how u feel. unfortunatly we have to wait a couple weeks for the next chapter >_<
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: lynalar on September 28 2006, 03:35 am
That's is why its so hard to predict if Doumeki likes Watanuki in a romantic or platonic because from the start he never showed any emotion except being protective to Watanuki.

 honestly, that right there is what made me a DxW shipper.  Here is this stoic guy who doesn't really get involved with anyone at all.  Honestly, they could all be dirt for the amount of attention he gives them.  Then suddenly, here is Watanuki and bam! Doumeki starts teasing him, walking him home and to work, protecting him on Yuuko's errands, and even begins to show real emotion.  As the manga progressed, we began to see true concern for Watanuki show through and then outright anger in the eye arc.

  Time after time, Doumeki puts himself out on the line for Watanuki.  Could it be friendship? Possibly, yes. I won't deny that possibility.  But somehow I doubt it..  Watanuki has gotten the only smile to date from him...the only real emotions shown, and Doumeki has proven he'll bleed and possibly even die for him.  If it's friendship, it's deep...really deep.

  You know...I kind of do see the CCS thing here, now that you mention it.  It was always kind of clear that Syaoran was Sakura's soul mate but she had the biggest crush on Yukito.  Just like with Yukito...it's fairly clear that while Himawari cares about Watanuki, it doesn't seem to be romantic.

  Not to mention that Yuuko has thrown out SO many hints...

  Ah well. We'll see where it leads.  Obviously clamp is not against boy/boy pairings...since they have clearly done it in the past.  Watanuki has distinct feminine attributes while clearly being male...which leans him more towards the type of character Clamp tends to do slash pairings with.  There are just so many possibilities.  That's what makes it fun and makes us beg for more!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: favila on September 28 2006, 06:00 am
Doumekiiiiiii! Where are you?
Cute little bird...
Is there a translation yet? Anybody knows?
Why do we have to wait three weeks more? Its unfair... :cry:

DouWata forever!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 28 2006, 06:17 am
Yeah, I hope a translation comes soon!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 28 2006, 06:28 am
can someone help me clean the scans? i gotta make a scanslation and i have no idea how to do it. (please do not instruct me. i dont do well with instructions either >_O )
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Jeannette on September 28 2006, 06:41 am
can someone help me clean the scans? i gotta make a scanslation and i have no idea how to do it. (please do not instruct me. i dont do well with instructions either >_O )
Chibiyuuto's cleaned scans for 130 of TRC and 120 of HOLiC are already out at the Room of Requirement. (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/tsubasa-holic/)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 28 2006, 06:54 am
ah cool. thanks. now all i need is a translation ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Jeannette on September 28 2006, 08:44 am
^_^ Translation from chou_addicted here. (http://chou-addicted.livejournal.com/17491.html)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 28 2006, 08:49 am
i cant use those ;_;
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 28 2006, 09:41 am
chou_addicted's translation gave more indepth. I'm satisfied in some other way ^_~
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Senefen on September 28 2006, 11:30 am
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Lol, sorry if it sounded like dissing. My post wasn't meant to be harsh or anything.
Daijoubu daijoubu. I tend to have that effect on people O.o
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Am I going to get bricked if I say that I can see Watanuki liking both Doumeki and Himawari?
*builds antibrick shield*
Emiko-san I agree with everything you said.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on September 28 2006, 03:33 pm
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So the bird is for Himawari, so she won't be lonely.  At least that's what I got from it.  It's a mini-Doumeki!  Himawari gets a Peep and Watanuki gets Doumeki, everybody is happy now. XD

Watanuki has a better understanding of others than Fai...that's a bit surprising.  I love how he told Yuuko he's not a kid anymore.  It's interesting to see how much he has grown over the course of the series. :keke:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Renaya on September 29 2006, 12:35 am
ahhh....
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so the little birdie is for Himawari, and what's the effect again..?Himawari's curse doesn't work on it, so Himawari got a little new friend or its function to nullify Himawari's curse so she won't be bad luck to everyone again..?
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Roxx on September 29 2006, 12:56 am
ahhh....
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so the little birdie is for Himawari, and what's the effect again..?Himawari's curse doesn't work on it, so Himawari got a little new friend or its function to nullify Himawari's curse so she won't be bad luck to everyone again..?

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From what I've read, the little bird won't be affected by Himawari's curse, but it won't protect her curse from people around her. Only the birdy is immune to the curse. So yes, she has a little friend that she can be with. I'm so happy for her ^^
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Kjesta on September 29 2006, 02:15 am
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That bird really is like Doumeki's and Watanuki's first baby :hehe: It's just like Doumeki and Watanuki made it hatch (= "gave birth to it"). Just like real parents, they put it into the world XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: whatever on September 29 2006, 09:29 am
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So the bird is immune to Himawari's influence. An immortal(?), impervious pet for Watanuki's friend. I think she's going to cry even more when she sees that cute little thing.

Also, Doumeki being immune to Himawari's influence. That explains a lot of little things throughout the manga. Himawari asked Doumeki to help Watanuki with the Angel-san case. She gave her hair ribbons to Doumeki instead of Watanuki (Clamp gave us a Watanuki spaz to distract from any significance there). The way Himawari invited Doumeki to join whatever Watanuki invited her to (as well as the fact that she would back out of a lot at the last minute) makes me almost certain that she knew Doumeki would keep Watanuki safe from her influence.

When I was reading chou_addicted's translation and read Watanuki talking about how Himawari would feel about him paying to get rid of her problem. . . Well, I could only think that he remembered how Doumeki reacted with the whole eye/spider thing. On that DouxWata note I have to add that I do think the bird is further proof that Watanuki is not interested in Himawari romantically.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 29 2006, 09:56 am
tyhe chapter is now scanlated and posted to msn :D enjoy!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Senefen on September 29 2006, 03:00 pm
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Watanuki has a better understanding of others than Fai...that's a bit surprising.  I love how he told Yuuko he's not a kid anymore.  It's interesting to see how much he has grown over the course of the series.
Go back and check chapter 1 Watanuki actually looks younger, I didnt notice it til recently but theres a noticable difference.
Evidently if you count by seasons two years have passed.

Himawari gets a little bird to be her friend ^^ someone other other then her parents who she can be around...
Ha ha I wonder how badly I'd be killed if I suggested HimawarixDoumeki....
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not suggesting it O.o
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: beetlebum_101 on September 29 2006, 03:31 pm
Himawari gets a little bird to be her friend ^^ someone other other then her parents who she can be around...
Ha ha I wonder how badly I'd be killed if I suggested HimawarixDoumeki....
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not suggesting it O.o

umm fangirls (like me) will be in chaos ^_~ Honestly, if you looked at it, HxD might happened more than HxW, if DxW will not happened. (But I don't think it won't because its Yanmaga, probably throwing hints, most likely slash) I don't know why :P

But really I'm hoping DxW XDDD

sorry for rambling XD
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Haruka on September 29 2006, 04:14 pm
So the bird is just there to keep Himawari company?  I was hoping it would have more impact than that (that bird pay for the water, which help save Fai).  At first I really dislike Himawari, but this last few chapter really change my view on her.  As for which couple will be canon, I think that it will mostly likely be Watanuki and Doumeki.  Yuuko hints several times throughout the manga that Doumeki is 'the one' for Watanuki, not Himawari.
I totally agree that the way Watanuki feels about Himawari is the same as the way Sakura feels about Yukito.  Watanuki is an orphan since little, he does not seem to have any friends at all.  Of course he would feel happy around someone who is nice, sweet, and always smile.  He mistook that warm feeling as 'love'.
The way Watanuki feels about Doumeki is way deeper.  Even though he nevers show it through words, but he shows it through his action and facial expression.  He cares more about Doumeki than he likes too.  I find this really funny:  whenever Doumeki said "I want Xxxx for lunch tomorrow", Watanuki would get really mad.   But he would always made Xxxx for lunch tomorrow. 
I really like Himawari by the way.  So if it HxD or HxW, then I won't mind.  It Clamp, so they can pull it off with any pairing (EXCEPT the Watanuki and the Vestal Sprite).  But I still cheer for DxW.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 29 2006, 04:29 pm
dont forget, when doumeki walked watanuki to his shrine after watanuki gave kohane his umbrella, they swapped given names, watanuki asking him for it. (also, in the rain, when doumeki called watanuki an idiot, he looked away, not looking directly at watanuki...people usualy do that so the other person doesnt see  their true emotion on their face. (i bet he was blushing :3 )
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Misfier on September 29 2006, 10:11 pm
dont forget, when doumeki walked watanuki to his shrine after watanuki gave kohane his umbrella, they swapped given names, watanuki asking him for it. (also, in the rain, when doumeki called watanuki an idiot, he looked away, not looking directly at watanuki...people usualy do that so the other person doesnt see their true emotion on their face. (i bet he was blushing :3 )

Really? Watanuki was looking pathetic in that scene so I thought that maybe Doumeki couldn't bear to see him look like that or he was surprised that he wasn't yelled at this time around.

Maul me for saying this but earlier in chapter 118 I kinda got the idea that Watanuki himself, being the selfless, sacrificing, adorable little guy he is, would get Himawari and Doumeki together. Then I can see Doumeki getting pissed off about the idea and he'll either confess to Watanuki(whatever the hell it is) or something.

Oh yes. And the only reason why this is in Yanmanga is because of Yuuko's boobs.
*gets bricked*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Renaya on October 01 2006, 05:57 pm
the schedule for xxxHolic release

2/10/06    -Young Magazine 44-none
7/10/06    -Young Magazine 45-none
16/10/06  -Young Magazine 46-none
23/10/06  -Young Magazine 47-ch 121
30/10/06  -Young Magazine 48-ch 122
(3 weeks no xxxHolic huh)

and the tankoubun vol 1o will be released on 17/11/06
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 01 2006, 06:47 pm
no xxxholic for 2 more  weeks? O_O evil.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: mela on October 01 2006, 07:18 pm
no xxxholic for 2 more  weeks? O_O evil.

*Three weeks. *sobs*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Touei on October 01 2006, 08:23 pm
*Three weeks. *sobs*
And one of those weeks we dont even have a new TRC chapter to see us through *twitch*
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 02 2006, 09:24 am
And one of those weeks we dont even have a new TRC chapter to see us through *twitch*
no T_T

*dies*

why must we be denied? :cry:
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on October 02 2006, 11:12 am
no T_T

*dies*

why must we be denied? :cry:

Because Clamp is evil, pure and simple. :icon_pirat: Look at it this way, we get color pages for both series in the same week.  Seven pages. ;)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Hira on October 12 2006, 04:03 am
I finally caught up with what's going on in the manga of xxxHOLiC...
I think the story is starting to resemble that of Tokyo Babylon. Toward the end of the story, the plot involves more about the protagonists' struggles rather than the struggles of the "clients" because the protagonists themselves, too, fell victim to their own desires.
I like it. CLAMP is finally reiterating the question of "Happiness" as they always had. It is, after all, the pupose of Yuuko's shop.
On the other hand... I really want to know what's gonna happen to Watanuki, Himawari, and Doumeki, and that Tsuyuri, too. The relationships are so blurry in the story, it isn't as clear cut as TB or Legal Drugs.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Senefen on October 14 2006, 02:41 pm
Yeah I agree, TB started off with Sei-chan and Subaru as love interests and in Legal Drug Kazahaya was the uke of all ukes, they dressed him up in girkls clothing and paried him with Rikou, not subtle at all lol.
xxxHolic is a lot more subtle. I think i like it more that way.
but yes, we've reached the point where its not Yuuko's clients who are being focused on.
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Post by: Misfier on October 22 2006, 03:58 am
Hey I was just wondering about Watanuki's history with Himawari and Doumeki. It seems that he's actually been friends with Himawari for some time and before Yuuko came into the scene all Watanuki and Doumeki did was fight. Well that's how it is according to the manga.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 22 2006, 09:48 am
Hey I was just wondering about Watanuki's history with Himawari and Doumeki. It seems that he's actually been friends with Himawari for some time and before Yuuko came into the scene all Watanuki and Doumeki did was fight. Well that's how it is according to the manga.
im  bit curios too, like when did doumeki "fall in love" with watanuki ^^;;;
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Post by: nefadol on October 22 2006, 10:26 am
im bit curios too, like when did doumeki "fall in love" with watanuki ^^;;;

Perhaps it was love at first sight?  XD

I wouldn't put it past that "big fight" being rather one sided on Watanuki's part.  Doumeki's probably like Fay or Rikuo, he's amused when he gets a rise out of Watanuki.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: CeruleanRipTide on October 23 2006, 11:50 pm
Someone wrote on the last page that chapter 121 should be coming out the 23rd of October... Isn't that today?
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on October 24 2006, 12:11 am
YAY! Finally another chapter!
Hopefully we'll get some answers in this one........................maybe?
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Post by: CeruleanRipTide on October 24 2006, 02:04 am
I know!!  I've been dying for 3 weeks without holic and then it was uber horrible w/o tsubasa last week too!!  lol   I can't wait to see it!!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Emiko on October 24 2006, 02:28 am
Hmm? It might be out today? But I thought the chapters were released on Wednesday...?
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Post by: kixie on October 24 2006, 02:31 am
Hmm? It might be out today? But I thought the chapters were released on Wednesday...?

xxxholic chapters are released in a different magazine which releases on Mondays so yes it is out today. *wants scans!!*
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Post by: Touei on October 24 2006, 03:52 am
Didn't CLAMP change the release date of 121 to next monday? *remembers reading it on Chibiyuuto's journal*
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Post by: kixie on October 24 2006, 03:56 am
damn they did didn't they? I remember now, great another week without xxxholic *head desk*
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Post by: CeruleanRipTide on October 24 2006, 04:05 am
Oh noooo~!!  ::cry::  I never saw that... ;.;   Sorry for getting peoples hopes up  ::appologizes a lot::  Now I need to mark that off....
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 24 2006, 04:11 am
Too bad...
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on October 24 2006, 06:01 pm
Yeah, we've already waited too long. :sad5:
Well, at least there's a TRC chapter this week. :keke:
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Post by: nefadol on October 24 2006, 06:30 pm
Here's the release schedule:

10/16 - Young Magazine #46 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled (on sale)
10/23 - Young Magazine #47 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled (CLAMP changed that, the continuation was originally scheduled for this week).
10/30 - Young Magazine #48 - Chapter 121 - 4 color pages, beginning of tank 11.
11/06 - Young Magazine #49 - Chapter 122.
11/13 - Young Magazine #50 - Chapter 123.
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Post by: Renaya on October 24 2006, 11:01 pm
oh dearr....just wondering why there's news about ch 121 and apparently it has been postponed ><, wait another week then, but at least TRC is here this week ^^, can't wait tomorrow!
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Post by: Mari on October 25 2006, 12:28 am
Here's the release schedule:

10/16 - Young Magazine #46 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled (on sale)
10/23 - Young Magazine #47 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled (CLAMP changed that, the continuation was originally scheduled for this week).
10/30 - Young Magazine #48 - Chapter 121 - 4 color pages, beginning of tank 11.
11/06 - Young Magazine #49 - Chapter 122.
11/13 - Young Magazine #50 - Chapter 123.

Ack!  No!!!
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on October 30 2006, 02:14 am
The manga should be out soon! I'm so excited. Not to mention there's 4 color pages!
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Post by: Rekall on October 30 2006, 04:30 am
I don't suppose it's out yet eh?  lol *need a 'Holic fix*
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Post by: Marumae on October 30 2006, 11:54 am
Well now that I've finally had a chance to catch up (school has been MURDER) thanks to whomever posted that link to that MSN community! :D Finally I HAVE CAUGHT UP.

Now
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As for the bird...eh...it's the most adorable thing ever, I admit I kind of hoped it would negate the curse on others whenever she's around them. But really it's just immune to it and will keep her company? That's a dissappointment. Sure it's great she has a friend, but it sucks that she can't ever really be rid of that.

Actually I feel sorry for Himawari now, even though in the beginning I had no real opinion on her. I do ship DxW, can anyone tell me if there's a set ending for XXX Holic in mind? If so I hope we have a few more chapters to satisfy the DxW shipper in me. But as for Himawari I mean that just sucks. She has this horrible bad luck curse around her and she can basically never get close to anyone but her parents her entire life or something bad will happen to them? That. SUCKS and if she tries to cure it she'll never be happy!? BLARG. I suppose I am biased, since Himawari and I share an astrological sign apparently, really amusing clamp considering our ruling planet is the planet of LUCK.

Edit: if you want to get technical I suppose my astrological sign is really Ophiuchus, the 13th sign that was forgotten because a 13th sign is bad luck so...

Yes I'm goofy, this makes me feel better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus#Astrology

Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be pre
Post by: Renaya on October 30 2006, 11:50 pm
just want to confirm, holic ch 121 is released this monday, right?? still no news?
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 31 2006, 12:24 am
hey there

is there any site where i can download scanlations for xxxHolic besides BWY? I have the MSN group but i usually like to zoom in the images :P
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Post by: Mari on October 31 2006, 03:41 am
just want to confirm, holic ch 121 is released this monday, right?? still no news?

I get scans from Ladydarkmoon's LJ and she says two more days ><
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on October 31 2006, 04:56 am
any chinese scans out yet?
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Post by: Touei on October 31 2006, 05:09 am
any chinese scans out yet?

Nope D: But I think I found spoilers-

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ようやく全快した四月一日。通学路で雨童女&座敷童に会う。

連載第121回(扉画:百目鬼・ひまわり・四月一日、10巻カバー用?)

四月一日を心配した座敷童が、見舞いに行こうとしていたのだ。
大丈夫だよと手を振られ、顔を赤くして隠れてしまう。
ちょっとだけ声が落ち着いたように感じたのは、四月一日の聞き間違いではない。
彼につりあうようにと、ちょっとだけ成長したのだ。
そんな想いに気付かない四月一日を鈍感とどつく雨童女。ひよこに気付く。
侑子からもらったその鳥は確かに珍しいものだが、それ以上に珍しいのは四月一日の存在。
管狐によろしくと言い残し、座敷童を連れて去る。

勝手に飛び出したひよこを四月一日が追うと、百目鬼とひまわりがいた。
傷跡のため髪を下ろしたひまわり。四月一日の首筋をしげしげと眺める百目鬼。
ひよこをひまわりに譲る。早速ひまわりの肩にとまるひよこ。
百目鬼「名前はどうするんだ」
ひまわり「ピって鳴くから『ピ』とかどうかな」
四月一日「え んな、まんまな」
ひまわり「じゃ『パ』」
百目鬼「野球のリーグみたいだな」
ひまわり「じゃ『ポ』」
四月一日「いや、あの」「パ行から離れてみてもいいと思うよひまわりちゃ~~ん」

ひまわりちゃんはパ行がお好き!?やっと取り戻した笑顔。最高に平凡で最高に楽しい日常。だが、雨童女のあの言葉は‥!?

My lack of japanese skills means I cant be sure if these are actually spoilers or not or just a prediction. But there's something about Watanuki being fully recovered and meeting Ame Warashi, Zashiki warashi, Himiwari and Doumeki.
Anyone?

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Post by: Kazuki on October 31 2006, 05:54 am
I'm dying to know what happens... 4 weeks without xxxHolic and still no scans? i_i
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 31 2006, 06:23 am
xxxholic....your sigg = teh <3  :3
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Post by: xxxholic on October 31 2006, 08:30 am
LOL thanks for the compliments. xD
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Post by: falka on October 31 2006, 10:44 pm
the whole chapter is not out yet but you can find some images here: http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-71.html

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Ame Warashi and Zashiki Warashi look cool on the color page. It seems that Watanuki really gave Himawari the birdie. now he can focus on Doumeki
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Post by: lynalar on October 31 2006, 11:09 pm
Nice pics...but after weeks of waiting, I just want to see the whole chapter darn it!  :heh:

   Thanks for posting that link...gives me something to drool ponder over while we wait for full chapter scans.
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Post by: Misfier on October 31 2006, 11:26 pm
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Okay so according to the manga, Amewarashi's hair really is blue. Hmm, it seems like she said something, not counting the fact she says Watanuki is an idiot, that seems prophetic or something.

I can wait a few more days. It's the feast of the dead over here tomorrow so at least I have something to do.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 01 2006, 01:55 am
ame looks better as a red head and zashiki with navy :P (anime)
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Post by: xxxholic on November 01 2006, 02:05 am
i dont see doumeki. *cries*
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 01 2006, 03:54 am
the whole chapter is not out yet but you can find some images here: http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-71.html
Nice pics!  :keke:
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.....I...need.......xxxholic.....chapte r......121......NOW!!!!!    *explodes*    :rotfl:
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Post by: Moro-dashi on November 01 2006, 06:11 am
Oi, the place I got my scanlations only has up to vol 9 ch 7 or something, is there more available?

Edit: Eeps! Nm, I searched the thread and found it.  :hello2:
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Post by: Jeannette on November 01 2006, 08:03 am
Whatever color her hair is, the Amewarashi is hot. Blue fits her purpose as the rainsprite more than red hair, but I do think red looks a bit better.

Gah, it looks like an awesome chapter. I can't wait.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: nefadol on November 01 2006, 08:16 am
Red fits her personality, blue fits what she is.  Either way, her hat is really cute.  This is the first time we've seen the two of them together in the manga, right?

One more day...
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Senefen on November 01 2006, 10:39 am
Translated by google, some sence made out of it O.o by me, some parts were too hard to understand, and i got bored in the end :P

Been a long time since the last appearance of xxxholic. Totally, 1 months it is the meaning which goes to bed, but originally it was expected to start again last week. It is the case that that urgently extends to this week, but and there is a [tsu] [pa] reason kana?

It is the ×××HOLiC 121st story thought which we send at [netabare] large number!!

Watanuki, last time was bedridden from a serious injury, this time its changed completely showed the [tsu] [te] vigorous form.
As many as 1 months just you went to bed as expected certain? (Laughing)
Last week in tsubasa Watanuki was shown injured in bed with Yuuko standing by.
3 public attention when “it does to pay the compensation, the occasion where the person” Syaoran converses with the Yuuko, it is the meaning where also Watanuki appears, but so it does, when ×××HOLiC reopens with [yanmaga] of last week, although Monday it is vigorous, the time gap, Wednesday bedridden occurs.
What the air which is additional stop of publishing of 1 weeks which designate that it links as major premise doing, there is no manner.

This time when it is reopened with such a such, it appeared with the color of page 4.
Furthermore, what and these 2 shots are explosion!! (Pic of Amewarashi and ZW)

Just [arienai] ~~~ [tsu]!!

The composition, Zashiki Warashi  and the Ame Warashi of association who would like us to visit, it seems that is born the pair of this cover [ri].
ZW blushed when she sees Watanuki
Vis-a-vis that, what [ira] the AW of the feeling which has been attached.
“Somewhere is good, is! Being such an insensibility, being stupid, slipping, the [ru]!”

… There is no good [toko] is, (wry smile).

The AW was to declare on such an Watanuki
These lines…Is heavy rather the feeling which the stripe shank.

There to be a story of the Domeki house to here, it is the meaning which has the story of Himawari, but when so it does, perhaps this more and more the protagonist Watanuki itself puzzle solving starts.
That it is to be possible to be that, but when it becomes so, what, the kind of air which turned the last corner does, it is, don't you think?.

More and more, it probably means that also the work is rust spurt or,…?

………

Still, the air which can be made various is to do, but the original completion flag stood by the fact that animation ends?

………

Well, story is reset.
Attending school midway, it encounters with both names of Domeki and Himawari with example.
If mentions the Himawari, you will lower the hair, perhaps in order to hide the scar of the back you probably will be, but image was changed.
Because what as for being visible even in the feeling which settles, insecurity of heart was kicked, probably will be? (Just talking about himawari might keep her hair down so Watanuki cant see the scars)

Presenting the small bird of example to such a her.
Girl of bird and.
Don't you think? it becomes the picture, (laughing).

To smile Watanuki it was and vis-a-vis.
At all happy development.
Also her lines which after this continue keep producing calm every day.

“Because the [pi] [tsu] [te] you call, '[pi]' how kana”
“It is to obtain, the [ma] it is the [ma]”
“'Pas'”
“League like shelf of baseball”
“'[po]'”
You think that “it is possible to try leaving well, from that pas line, Himawari [chi] [ya] ~~ it is”
(she calls it Pi?)

As expected, you do not understand whether some name is attached, but after all 'pas' line kana? (Wry smile)
It has not come out yet, whether '[pu]' 'the [pe]' (laughing).

Perhaps [pu] help or [pe] it is thick, lovely name is attached.

[chikuri] meaning of the AW who is stuck deeply lines in the future in such a calm every day how being entwined to story?
You will expect to next week!

I think there are some word plays in there that are going to give the translators a hard time O.o
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Post by: batsbebe on November 01 2006, 03:46 pm
hmmm.  With regards to the poll:::::  I happen to favor Zashiki Warashi.  I think she is adorable, and she has tried to do so much for Watanuki. 
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I mean, she almost died trying to get his eye back for him!!!!!!
    ~so, i didn't vote   :)

so... what the heck is RSyaoran doing paying for Watanuki's recovery??????
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Post by: Misfier on November 01 2006, 05:06 pm
Ach I think my brain just exploded!

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A few blogs went up about 121 and I noticed 'vessel' and 'existence impossilbe' alot of times. It seems like its saying the Watanuki's existence in itself is impossible and that he's probably a vessel? O_O

I WANT TRANS NOW! ;_;
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Post by: mela on November 01 2006, 09:01 pm
Someone posted the chapter link on TC.net's forums... but no password yet! :cry:
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/103410795/
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Post by: be_z on November 01 2006, 09:29 pm
Someone posted the chapter link on TC.net's forums... but no password yet! :cry:
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/103410795/

password : faxing
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Post by: mela on November 01 2006, 09:33 pm
Thank you!

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Umm, hopefully there are translations soon and something interesting was said... that chapter seems so fluffy and... yeah :XD:
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Post by: Renaya on November 01 2006, 11:01 pm
thank you for the scans link ^^ and for the password as well!

aww....the little bird is so cute....XD..I want have one...it still has got any name yet , right? and I think it will be given in this chapter (predicting from the last page :tongue:)
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so, in the end, that bird is really for Himawari...and the trio looks happy once again ^_^
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Post by: nefadol on November 01 2006, 11:31 pm
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I love Amewarashi, her attitude is great.  Her and Zashikiwarashi do make for one interesting pair.

But the thing that I noticed, Watanuki's mismatched eyes!  These are the first color images we've had of him since he received half of Doumeki's.  So now we have Subaru, C!Syaoran, and Watanuki with mismatched eyes. Clamp and their eyes. >_<

The group is all happy happy now, but it's nice to see Watanuki happy again.

[edit] - Translation here (http://kowaiki.livejournal.com/87265.html).

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Amewarashi's comment on how Watanuki's existence in itself is a rariety caught my attention.  Her comment definately bothered him, but she left and he ran into Doumeki and Himawari before he could really react at all.  I'm hoping for some real answers on Watanuki soon, who and what is he? >_<
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 02 2006, 02:27 am
Thanks for the scans and translation!
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I liked the part when Amewarashi & Zashikiwarashi showed up, you haven't seen them for a while. I wonder what it is that makes Watanuki so special, even the Zashikiwarashi mentioned it.
I think it was a good chapter, but I had hoped that it also would have given you some answers or some signs of them.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: Mari on November 02 2006, 03:56 am
Yay :)  I love waking up to a new xxxHolic chapter.

Although I would have liked some answers, I think the light fluffy chapter was a nice break from all that has been happening.
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Post by: selenityshiroi on November 02 2006, 04:39 am
Am I the only one thinking Amewarashi/Zashikiwarashi femslash?
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Post by: xxxholic on November 02 2006, 04:46 am
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Sigh. i was hoping that to see a confrontation scene between Watanuki and Doumeki. Watanuki would say thanks to Doumeki for saving him. So on and so on, but he didn't. He ignored him right when he saw him. How rude to someone who just saved your life. He only thanked Himawari. It seems like the next few chapters will focus all Himawari.
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Post by: Jeannette on November 02 2006, 04:57 am
Am I the only one thinking Amewarashi/Zashikiwarashi femslash?

Haha, no you aren't. They are adorable together.

This is -such- a good chapter. We all needed some cuteness after all the angst in TRC and HOLiC recently.
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Post by: Kazuki on November 02 2006, 05:00 am
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Sigh. i was hoping that to see a confrontation scene between Watanuki and Doumeki. Watanuki would say thanks to Doumeki for saving him. So on and so on, but he didn't. He ignored him right when he saw him. How rude to someone who just saved your life. He only thanked Himawari. It seems like the next few chapters will focus all Himawari.

I totally agree with you...
I mean, it didn't have to be a heart-to-heart thing, but at least a "Thank you" would be nice ¬¬
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Post by: falka on November 02 2006, 05:07 am
it didn't have to be a heart-to-heart thing, but at least a "Thank you" would be nice ¬¬
I second that

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when I first saw the splash page I was like "wtf, why Doumeki is the one touching Himawari's hand?!?" Is CLAMP forshadowing something again?
Well, the whole chapter was cute, but it certainly wasn't something I was hoping for. As a faithful 104 fangirl I feel somewhat distressed.
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga Discussion (Spoilers may be present!)
Post by: xxxholic on November 02 2006, 05:31 am
^ I agree with you. I'm distressed about just that.

Anyway, it seems like everything's back to normal again and new the next chapter might go back to taking customers.
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Post by: Airashii on November 02 2006, 05:36 am
C/Syaoran has one eye blue and the other brown,and Watanuki also has the same color,no?
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Post by: Renaya on November 02 2006, 06:23 am
C/Syaoran has one eye blue and the other brown,and Watanuki also has the same color,no?

not exactly brown, it's amber colour.....
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Post by: mela on November 02 2006, 06:57 am
C/Syaoran has one eye blue and the other brown,and Watanuki also has the same color,no?

Yeah, but that brown eye was from Doumeki, not Syaoran.
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 02 2006, 07:29 am
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Sigh. i was hoping that to see a confrontation scene between Watanuki and Doumeki. Watanuki would say thanks to Doumeki for saving him. So on and so on, but he didn't. He ignored him right when he saw him. How rude to someone who just saved your life. He only thanked Himawari. It seems like the next few chapters will focus all Himawari.
I also agree,  I'm a bit tired of Watanuki's " Oh, you're soooo cute Himawari-chan!" and "Doumeki you annoying bastard" attitude.  When will Watanuki begin to show some kindness towards Doumeki, after all, he's done more for him than anyone else.
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 02 2006, 08:30 am
I also agree,  I'm a bit tired of Watanuki's " Oh, you're soooo cute Himawari-chan!" and "Doumeki you annoying bastard" attitude.  When will Watanuki begin to show some kindness towards Doumeki, after all, he's done more for him than anyone else.

I totally agree.
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Post by: nefadol on November 02 2006, 09:06 am
Am I the only one thinking Amewarashi/Zashikiwarashi femslash?

lol, it makes even more sense why Amewarashi is so peeved at Watanuki.  She kept on griping on why Watanuki could change her when he's such an idiot. XD

A thank you may be nice, but it just doesn't seem to fit with their dynamic.  Perhaps it's the fact that he doesn't thank Doumeki and also that he does treat him differently to a degree says more than if he all of a sudden started to treat him kindly.  Then Doumeki'd be on the same level as Himawari, wouldn't he?

For all we know he did thank him, it's been quite a while since the fall. -_-
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 02 2006, 09:35 am
nice chapter. ill post scanslations ASAP.
watanukis mismatched eyes...this i sthe first time we;ve gotten a full clear veiw of thim. all those colroed splashes and stuff since the incedent... you could barely see them
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 02 2006, 09:41 am
Yeah, it was weird seeing Watanuki with one brown and one blue eye..
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Post by: Senefen on November 02 2006, 10:19 am
Did anyone else notise, Himawari's started keeping her hair down her back so Watanuki wont see the scars.
I was wondering what was going to happen with the eyes, i thought theyd both be blue with a messed up pupil or something. hasnt anyone at school notised?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 02 2006, 10:54 am
whose eyes? watanuki's? the only flaw with his eyes, other then the mismatch, is that the right pupil sometimes turns opaque, when he;s stressed or emotional. that activates doumeki;s sight,

doumeki and watanuki's bonded in 2 ways now: blood and their right eye. now watanuki just needs to get his head out of his @$$ to notice how much doumeki truely cares for him
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 02 2006, 11:03 am
Did anyone else notise, Himawari's started keeping her hair down her back so Watanuki wont see the scars.
I was wondering what was going to happen with the eyes, i thought theyd both be blue with a messed up pupil or something. hasnt anyone at school notised?

Yeah I noticed that too, I wonder if she will always have her hair like that because of the scars..

And the thing about Watanuki's mismatched eyes - other students at his school(and other people too) must have noticed, maybe they think he's wearing a lens or something...
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Post by: lynalar on November 02 2006, 11:49 am
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Sadly, I'm beginning to think that our favorite 104 pairing in simply not in the works, canon wise.  I hope they do...but I'm beginning to think Clamp isn't going to do it for us. 
  From the splash page with doumeki taking Himawari's hand added to the Zashiki Warashi crush and Watanuki's stubborn refusal even to THANK Doumeki...I'm beginning to get a bit dispirited about things.

  The only thing that really, REALLY gets me is Doumeki's motivation.  Why does he follow watanuki around, protect him, willingly be in dangerous situations, and has repeatedly saved his life? why?

  Himawari, in this case, I get. It was her bad luck that caused the accident.

  Also, what was with Clamp doing the scene where Doumeki saves Watanuki by grabbing his hand and refusing to let go even though he is bleeding?  I can't attest to many clamp anime's or manga's...but so far that I've seen, every time that happens, it is because the people involved love each other.  In one case, Touya hangs onto Yukito because he passed out on a balcony.  In another, Subaru doesn't let go of Fuuma's sister (I can't recall her name) when they almost fall from a tree. I may be wrong, but don't Syoaran and Sakura have a similiar situation in CCS?

  Ah well...

  Beautiful colored pages and soooooo glad to see xxxHolic back because I was having serious withdrawal.
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Post by: Jeannette on November 02 2006, 12:50 pm
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Sadly, I'm beginning to think that our favorite 104 pairing in simply not in the works, canon wise.  I hope they do...but I'm beginning to think Clamp isn't going to do it for us. 
  From the splash page with doumeki taking Himawari's hand added to the Zashiki Warashi crush and Watanuki's stubborn refusal even to THANK Doumeki...I'm beginning to get a bit dispirited about things.

  The only thing that really, REALLY gets me is Doumeki's motivation.  Why does he follow watanuki around, protect him, willingly be in dangerous situations, and has repeatedly saved his life? why?

  Himawari, in this case, I get. It was her bad luck that caused the accident.

  Also, what was with Clamp doing the scene where Doumeki saves Watanuki by grabbing his hand and refusing to let go even though he is bleeding?  I can't attest to many clamp anime's or manga's...but so far that I've seen, every time that happens, it is because the people involved love each other.  In one case, Touya hangs onto Yukito because he passed out on a balcony.  In another, Subaru doesn't let go of Fuuma's sister (I can't recall her name) when they almost fall from a tree. I may be wrong, but don't Syoaran and Sakura have a similiar situation in CCS?

  Ah well...

  Beautiful colored pages and soooooo glad to see xxxHolic back because I was having serious withdrawal.

Hmm, well, I'm still convinced something will happen with W/D. I mean, CLAMP's done so much with it; you can't say that all the subtext and such they've stuck in is coincidental. It would be dumb beyond belief for CLAMP to have built up the relationship and then let it go.  And Watanuki shows absolutely no romantic interest in Zashiki Warashi. But it's pretty clear that Watanuki is in complete denial about his feelings for Doumeki- his behavior screams it. But it -is- annoying that Watanuki doesn't even thank Doumeki.  And I think you meant Kamui, not Subaru, and yeah, that happened. ^^
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Post by: Misfier on November 02 2006, 01:16 pm
Maybe Watanuki will thank Doumeki when they get a chance to be alone together?

You know, maybe the D/W thing may just be one sided.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 02 2006, 03:21 pm
theres probably a syao-sakur incedent tahtas similar, but the closest thing i can think of is when they wre trapped in the elevator and eriol made half of it disapear causing sakura to fall in to the casm

as for people nocing watanuki's eye...he DID wear an eye  patch for several weeks, so perhaps their writing off watanuki;s mismatched eyes as a result of said injury?
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Post by: Senefen on November 02 2006, 04:48 pm
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so perhaps their writing off watanuki;s mismatched eyes as a result of said injury?
Good point, I never thought of that

:P Watanuki has wored up his annoyance with doumeki that now he simply cant admit to getting along with him, except when he was dreaming once.
You know how when you argue a point and make a big deal about it then u find out later you were wrong but youre sure as hell not gonna let anyone else know ^^ same kinda thing
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Post by: lynalar on November 02 2006, 11:21 pm
Another note with the eye issue is that depending on the color page, people's eye colors often get swapped around. And that is from official artwork, not fan art.

   I've seen both of watanuki's eyes be grey, in one drawing he had a patch and the uncovered eye that shows is the gold/amber color, on the cover art of volume two he has a reddish gold color, and on the cover art of volume 5 he has a light green eye color.  I've also seen the blue everything from a dark, dark blue to an ice blue to an aqua color.

  Yuuko's eyes have been primarily red, but in oine shot they are a lavendar color. There's onw with her and clow that has her eyes a light yellow color. In volume 1 (cover art) Yuuko has golden eyes.  On the cover art of volume three she has grey eyes, and I've seen an almost brown color in some pics.

  The amazing color changing eyes of Watanuki and Yuuko!  *lol*  By now, his classmates have got to be used to it. =P
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Post by: tsuki on November 03 2006, 12:09 am
^ i noticed that too!
but,i have one question...
when i d/l at bwys until volume 8,the first chapter is 47!
but,in msngroups,volume 8 of the first chapter is 85!!
which is true!?i confused now!! >_<
please tell me!!
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Post by: selenityshiroi on November 03 2006, 12:12 am
I think that some of the images produced have been stylistic.  The colours are changed to match a theme.  The colour images that actually are part of the manga are the real colours.

CLAMP do it quite often.   There are some To-babi images with the wrong eye/hair colours (in order to match the colour scheme).  The X artbooks also have some 'incorrectly' coloured pictures.

Takeuchi Naoko did it a lot with Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon images, too.  There are absolutely tonnes of images with the 'wrong' hair/eye colours.  Of course, there are also a lot of images with 'realistic' hair/eye colours (which seem more of a realism choice rather than a stylistic choice).

As for the lack of DouWata...I think it's a delayed reaction.  When
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Fay used his magic in chapter 106 we were all expecting Kurogane to confront him on it.  That didn't happen till chapter 112.
  I think it will happen, but CLAMP will get everything else out of the way first so that when it DOES happen, they can focus on it.

Put it this way, would you rather have a quick embarrased thank you in front of Himawari-chan or would you rather have a private, serious thank you when Doumeki is walking him home from school/Yuuko's (or similar scenario)?  I vote for option number two.

All that subtext can't be for nothing.  We just have to be patient.
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Post by: nefadol on November 03 2006, 12:57 am
We need to keep in mind that this chapter isn't over (at least I don't think so, can't know for sure until next week).  When the series is pubished in book form the chapters are compressed, so until there's another title page the first chapter of volume 11 hasn't been completed yet.  Holic chapters are actually quite long in comparison to Tsubasa.  Volume 9 had 12 chapters serialized but only had 7 in the tankoubon.  Did that make sense?

Just because he hasn't thanked him, doesn't mean he won't. 
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on November 03 2006, 01:08 am
Well, the eye thing. Remember when Watanuki lost his eyesight and he shared with Doumeki? I think the eye will "activate" when he saw a spirit or strange creature so that he and Doumeki can see it. Thats my opinion though.

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As for the latest chapter, well I don't know what to say. I'm not that very happy at first. Because I was expecting more of DW moment. But on the other hand there are trying the "aftermath" of this event.

But if you read carefully, somehow Watanuki notices Doumeki in some way. Read it carefully, and Doumeki gave us dry humor in their. The reason why these two can't compliment because Watanuki is the type of person that he wants hear out your opinion hence Doumeki is a silent type and he wants to think first before he tells it.
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when Doumeki strared at him, Watanuki asked why then Doumeki replied nothing and he went mad again.
You see my point  :XD:

Anyhow, as much as I love the 104, I'm still hoping for it. because every Clamp homo pairings took it slowly; CCS, TRC, TB etc.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 03 2006, 04:07 am
^ i noticed that too!
but,i have one question...
when i d/l at bwys until volume 8,the first chapter is 47!
but,in msngroups,volume 8 of the first chapter is 85!!
which is true!?i confused now!! >_<
please tell me!!

both are correct. the ones on BWYS are numbered by the splash pages, which WOULD be a proper chapter, but the ones on msn are nubmerd via the relases, which each weak half a chapter is released. (14 pages vs 28)
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Post by: Misfier on November 04 2006, 12:15 am
Theory time!

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Okay so Ame Warashi said that Watanuki is a rare person right? Back in the spider lady arc Watanuki's eye had the ability to magnify a person's magic several times over. That was simply the eye.

So what about his blood or whole body? Fei Wong might want to possess Watanuki's body since he is such a power-whore, besides the fact the Wata's body is young.

Come to think about it he could've set Watanuki up from the start by destroying his spirit. His parents death which some assume is Fei Wong's fault caused Watanuki to be anti-social; Himawari was back then the only one he could consider a friend but she's bad luck for him; Doumeki being one of the few who had the ability to protect him, he hated.

So he was basically screwed until Yuuko came along. This is where I think the sealing earring on Mokona comes into play, it protects Watanuki from Fei Wong's interference.

Oh yeah and on a side note I think I now know why R!Syaoran gave Watanuki a pissed off look. It was because of his eye! XD Although the real reason why he was pissed off at that in particular is anybody's guess.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 04 2006, 05:13 am
intersting theory...but what ABOUT his eye? O_o
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Post by: Misfier on November 04 2006, 05:23 am
intersting theory...but what ABOUT his eye? O_o

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Well either:
-R!Syaoran was upset that Watanuki got hurt or let himself get hurt thus losing his right eye
-R!Syaoran doesn't like the idea that Watanuki is sharing his sight with someone else
-R!Syaoran is jealous
-or some other reason I don't know
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Post by: Mari on November 04 2006, 06:39 am
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Well either:
-R!Syaoran was upset that Watanuki got hurt or let himself get hurt thus losing his right eye
-R!Syaoran doesn't like the idea that Watanuki is sharing his sight with someone else
-R!Syaoran is jealous
-or some other reason I don't know

If R!Syaoran is anything like CCS Syoaran then I could definitely see the jealousy thing. ^^;;  Reminds me of that little Yukito delima.  I still think there's something more to the whole connection between them, though.

And I like your theory from above.  Got me thinking and wishing for more xxxHolic so we could get more answers ><

Going away from the recent chapter for a moment, I wonder if someone could help me here.  Back in volume 2 when Watanuki had to go retrieve the Mokonas, why was it that Maru and Moro being souless prevented them from taking them out?
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Post by: Misfier on November 04 2006, 07:32 am
^Well Yuuko did also that if Watanuki was 'the one' he'd be able to release the Mokonas. Oh and since Maru and  Moro are magical creatures, depending on how they were created, their range of influence is limited.
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Post by: Mari on November 04 2006, 08:13 am
^Well Yuuko did also that if Watanuki was 'the one' he'd be able to release the Mokonas. Oh and since Maru and Moro are magical creatures, depending on how they were created, their range of influence is limited.

She did?
Bleh.  My translations are always off.

Thanks ^^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 05 2006, 09:56 pm
sorry it took so long, chapyter posted on msn
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Post by: Kazuki on November 06 2006, 12:36 am
When do the chapters usually come out? Monday?
Because if it is then there should be some spoiler going around already...or not
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Post by: Touei on November 06 2006, 12:51 am
When do the chapters usually come out? Monday?
Because if it is then there should be some spoiler going around already...or not
Monday, yeah. Mh, but no-one seems to bother with HOLiC spoilers til like.. Tuesday-ish. It's just not as popular cliffhanger-filled as TRC. Which is a shame.
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Post by: Kazuki on November 07 2006, 04:54 am
Monday, yeah. Mh, but no-one seems to bother with HOLiC spoilers til like.. Tuesday-ish. It's just not as popular cliffhanger-filled as TRC. Which is a shame.

Real shame!! So there's still nothing out yet? i_i
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Post by: Touei on November 07 2006, 04:58 am
Spoilers and a few images heree-
http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-76.html

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Bah. More Himawari. But some interesting FWR info maybe .o.?
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Post by: nefadol on November 07 2006, 05:03 am
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If Yuuko is talking about FWR, it means that she may actually be talking to Watanuki about him.  Which is good!  We may actually finally learn something, although I hope it isn't more cryptic talking that's half useless.

Although it looks like I may have been right about this still being a continuation of what will be the first chapter of volume 11, judging from the lunch scene.  Also it's really looking like they've been stalling the chapters on purpose, with what's being revealed in each series relating to each other afterall.
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Post by: Senefen on November 07 2006, 05:01 pm
Google translator

"In as for name of the bird Watanuki attaching after all.
“Hokouei (dandelion)” "
Birdy is being named Dandelion it looks like.
And something about FWR's name being written in Kanji for the 1st time.
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Post by: Mari on November 08 2006, 01:21 pm
It's really said that xxxHolic doesn't have it's own spot.

But in case no one caught them, translations (http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/2542.html) are up.

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Doumeki: That's great. The bird is so open-minded.
Watanuki: What did you say!!

I like the name he picked!
^_^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 08 2006, 03:33 pm
the splash shot for yuuko is cool, and the end sht is just as great.
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Post by: Renaya on November 08 2006, 07:03 pm
It's really said that xxxHolic doesn't have it's own spot.

But in case no one caught them, translations (http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/2542.html) are up.


what do you mean by "doesn't have its own spot".?? :confused:

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in the end of ch 122 if I'm not mistaken, Yuuko said that she knows in which world FWR is...wonder what will happen in the next chapter, then again,anything regarding FWR should be done in TRC , isn't it..? and suddenly at xxxholic, FWR is being mentioned

ah, for the time line, Yuuko's conversation with Mokona is done after her conversation with the TRC gang right?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 08 2006, 07:09 pm
what do you mean by "doesn't have its own spot".?? :confused:

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in the end of ch 122 if I'm not mistaken, Yuuko said that she knows in which world FWR is...wonder what will happen in the next chapter, then again,anything regarding FWR should be done in TRC , isn't it..? and suddenly at xxxholic, FWR is being mentioned

ah, for the time line, Yuuko's conversation with Mokona is done after her conversation with the TRC gang right?

yes. when she's talking to mokona in the treasure room, she flashes back to when she had her chat with the TRC gang.
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Post by: Mari on November 09 2006, 01:40 am
what do you mean by "doesn't have its own spot".?? :confused:

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in the end of ch 122 if I'm not mistaken, Yuuko said that she knows in which world FWR is...wonder what will happen in the next chapter, then again,anything regarding FWR should be done in TRC , isn't it..? and suddenly at xxxholic, FWR is being mentioned

ah, for the time line, Yuuko's conversation with Mokona is done after her conversation with the TRC gang right?

Mmm.  Wrong words.  Just it's harder to find it on the general manga thread when it gets pushed back some.

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The thing that had me wondering was how she was comparing the egg being made into two with "the children"
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 09 2006, 02:29 am
It's really said that xxxHolic doesn't have it's own spot.

But in case no one caught them, translations (http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/2542.html) are up.

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Doumeki: That's great. The bird is so open-minded.

Watanuki: What did you say!!

I like the name he picked!
^_^

Where can you get the scans for the chapter? Haven't  they come out yet?
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Post by: Mari on November 09 2006, 02:40 am
Where can you get the scans for the chapter? Haven't they come out yet?

Ladydarkmoon usually has them up today around noon, according to my time zone.
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 09 2006, 04:56 am
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Where can you get the scans for the chapter? Haven't  they come out yet?
The scans are out now, there's a link in the TRC 134 topic to Ladydarkmoon's site. :keke:
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 09 2006, 09:07 am
ive had them since monsday :D im scanlating them and are halfway thru now ^^

btw...Neither and FK couldnt figure the rest of the splash tag... could anyone help?
http://i14.tinypic.com/2akk65t.jpg
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 09 2006, 09:22 pm
in anycase, chapter up at msn
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Post by: Kazuki on November 09 2006, 09:43 pm
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Did anyone notice how cute Watanuki's face was when Doumeki told him that the name was cute? *-*
He was like: "WTF? Doumeki is saying something I said is cute?"
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 10 2006, 08:46 am
XD
i saw that too. one second doumeki steals a piece of his bento, and then makes FUN of watanuki's name for the bird, and htne 2 seconds later says its cute nonetheless XDD

ahh love ^^
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 11 2006, 09:38 am
Well I'm kinda late with reading this new chapter. (I read it a couple of minutes ago  :sweatdrop: ) It was ok, nothing big happened but it was a intersesting conversation Mokona and Yuuko had I think. I wonder what FWR needs souls for..? And that bird, Dandelion is so cute! ^^
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Post by: Misfier on November 13 2006, 11:37 pm
I don't get why people think just because recent chapters are Himawari-centric that they think that KuroFai will become canon faster than DouWata. With all the effort they've been putting in those two's relationship I find it hard to believe it won't deeper than that knowing them. I think they're just giving Himawari some development that she lacked greatly.

Besides, didn't the recent chapter subtly give us fanon fodder? They already act like they're married.
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-Watanuki cooks food for Doumeki. Doumeki in turn protects Watanuki.
-Both are mean to each other. And, even though it might be hard to imagine on Doumeki's part, they like it.
-Watanuki does something stupid like say, give up his right eye to save Doumeki's eyesight. Doumeki goes batshit and gets angry at him.(if you know men you know where I'm going with this)
-Doumeki gives his eye and his blood to Watanuki. I'm betting you can't legally get married in Japan so this is as good as it gets.
-Watanuki recieves egg as payment for drawing water. Since Doumeki helped him carry half the load he, by rights, should have equal custody of egg.
-Watanuki 'births' the egg. No matter what he says(aww your firstborn mommy!Wata! XD)
-Said egg has Doumeki's abilities(durr?) and Watanuki's kindness(see! what you tell your kid in the womb really helps you know?).
-Watanuki names the bird. Doumeki makes fun of name then later calls it cute.

You know, for all the cheesy-ness of romance novels, if I didn't read any I wouldn't be able to read between the lines.

The problem in general:

- Watanuki is mean to Doumeki cuz of his attitude(thats what he says) and has been so mean that he believes Doumeki must hate him in return. Thus it is impossible for him to percieve why Doumeki would do such and such for him. It also doesn't help that they're both guys. Hey I know this is CLAMP and all but if it was just Watanuki, I don't think he's even thought about being gay..............yet.

-I know these silent types. They're actually shy. It's the haugty kind of shy that people often mistake as a sign of arrogance or aloofness. But Doumeki is still a hard case to crack. So I'll just hazard a guess. According to popular opinion, Doumeki likes Watanuki. But, again, even if this is CLAMP we're talking about, its not that easy being gay, especially if you're the one of the most popular guys at school.Oh damn I forgot that he doesn't give a rats *** :P Anyway, Doumeki really isn't giving any real effort to win him over(Doumeki is the most whipped guy in CLAMPverse imo) but he doesn't mind protecting him(bentoes and macho-guy complex). I give up, the only one in HOLiC with the ability to read Doumeki like and open book is either Yuuko or Watanuki(he's catching on fast enough).
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Post by: Misfier on November 14 2006, 12:35 am
Sorry for the double post.

But the next chapter is Doumeki-centric! SQUEE~[heart]

Sorry I can't understand it cuz of all the spazzing but here
http://blog.so-net.ne.jp/honwari-chibi/2006-11-13-1

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Oh god! Watanuki finally thanks Doumeki! All on his own! And he blushes like a schoolgirl! Oh I'm spazzing right now! :inlove:
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Post by: favila on November 14 2006, 01:34 am
I think that there is a transcription in here:
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/fumikogoods/e/4e537d4a8b6d3b1f3ac28aa5764ad3d6
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I don't know japanese, but according the online translator I understand that Domeki considers Watanuki's blushed face was worth the blood?
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Post by: falka on November 14 2006, 01:45 am
http://blog.so-net.ne.jp/honwari-chibi/2006-11-13-1

are there any images on this site?!? cos nothing shows for me...
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Post by: Kazuki on November 14 2006, 02:21 am
Whaaat? Watanuki blushes? *-*
And Doumeki says it's was worthed just because of that? Right after he said that the name Watanuki chose for the bird is cute?  :inlove:

DouWata is love *.*~~

Need scans or at least some translation! (this just made my day a lot happier!!)
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Post by: favila on November 14 2006, 02:31 am
are there any images on this site?!? cos nothing shows for me...
I didn't see any image... but if you scroll down you can find also a transcription (sorry, I just noticed now)
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Post by: Touei on November 14 2006, 02:49 am
fzfhkdkfsn. *twitch*
If those spoiler are true, I think I might hyperventilate. And melt. And run around the house squeeing.
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Post by: favila on November 14 2006, 02:52 am
Images! (unfortunately not the ones I really would like to see)
http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-81.html
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2006, 07:16 am
eheh. ive been given the chapter and have sent it to FK and Neither over at TC.net. it should go up by wednesday :D

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the chappie made me smile. wata getting flustered...Kudakitsuna PWN of love...tickle atatck by 2 magical creatures XD

BUT theres this one pannel where... ill show you ^.^:  http://i10.tinypic.com/4br5v6c.jpg

on the page before, the 2 are entering yuuko's shop, and watanuki's griping about something, and then doumeki probably makes another teasing comment
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Post by: Touei on November 14 2006, 07:30 am
eheh. ive been given the chapter and have sent it to FK and Neither over at TC.net. it should go up by wednesday :D

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the chappie made me smile. wata getting flustered...Kudakitsuna PWN of love...tickle atatck by 2 magical creatures XD

BUT theres this one pannel where... ill show you ^.^:  http://i10.tinypic.com/4br5v6c.jpg

on the page before, the 2 are entering yuuko's shop, and watanuki's griping about something, and then doumeki probably makes another teasing comment

ffdgh. 104. *squee*
We still have to wait for wednesday though ;^;? *so excited about this chapter*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2006, 07:38 am
ffdgh. 104. *squee*
We still have to wait for wednesday though ;^;? *so excited about this chapter*
its not that you have to wait till wednesday, its my time and scedule. it takes me about an hour or 2 to clean all 15 images. btw...the splash page features
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haruka
, then i have to scanlate, which takes me 3-4 hours... thats alot of work. ^^;;; if luck abound, itl be up by tomorow, the latest thrusday.
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Post by: Touei on November 14 2006, 07:50 am
its not that you have to wait till wednesday, its my time and scedule. it takes me about an hour or 2 to clean all 15 images. btw...the splash page features
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haruka
, then i have to scanlate, which takes me 3-4 hours... thats alot of work. ^^;;; if luck abound, itl be up by tomorow, the latest thrusday.
XD That's fine. No rush. I guess I meant, that you werent gonna release the raw scans to us~? Which again is fine by me, since they're your scans.
 I know how time consuming scanlating manga is from personal experience, you do a good job ^-^

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And haruka splash page!? 8D 123 just gets better and better XDD
Haha, Ladydarkmoon's gonna love this chapter~
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2006, 07:54 am
someone has started sending me the RAWS in HQ format. heir on her personal server so i dont think itd beOK to spread the lionk.

besides its a 60+mb Dl...their all HUGE PNGs XD i forgot to mention that i have to crop and resize beofore i can clean and scanlate

still...its a perfect chapter. the one wheve been wating for!
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Post by: Touei on November 14 2006, 08:02 am
someone has started sending me the RAWS in HQ format. heir on her personal server so i dont think itd beOK to spread the lionk.

besides its a 60+mb Dl...their all HUGE PNGs XD i forgot to mention that i have to crop and resize beofore i can clean and scanlate

still...its a perfect chapter. the one wheve been wating for!
Aa~ *nods* Fair enough~ =3
sounds soso awesome though~
*has happy 104-filled dreams*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2006, 08:08 am
OKay i decided to post the splash. ^^ its not translated yet, but heres the splash:

http://i15.tinypic.com/2zipkly.jpg

now i must go for now ^^
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Post by: Senefen on November 14 2006, 08:26 am
"Watanuki recieves egg as payment for drawing water. Since Doumeki helped him carry half the load he, by rights, should have equal custody of egg."
XD like its a child. Whats Himawari than?
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Post by: whatever on November 14 2006, 12:42 pm
eheh. ive been given the chapter and have sent it to FK and Neither over at TC.net. it should go up by wednesday :D

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the chappie made me smile. wata getting flustered...Kudakitsuna PWN of love...tickle atatck by 2 magical creatures XD

BUT theres this one pannel where... ill show you ^.^:  http://i10.tinypic.com/4br5v6c.jpg

on the page before, the 2 are entering yuuko's shop, and watanuki's griping about something, and then doumeki probably makes another teasing comment

Sounds like this chapter is worth the wait.
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So Doumeki is still able to enter Yuuko's shop.?! That's interesting. Is it a case of once you've entered, you're always able to enter? Hmm.

Thanks for the sneak peeks. That image is cute. It looks like Doumeki was expecting Watanuki to explode and is shocked to find him silent.
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Post by: falka on November 15 2006, 12:41 am
the translation is out: http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/2703.html

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at last a completely non-Himawari chapter!!!
ufufu, the boys are so adorable in love. thank you CLAMP, for it was indeed worth the wait.
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Post by: nefadol on November 15 2006, 02:05 am
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...and everybody was getting nervous about him not thanking him.  See?  Being patient pays off, that was an extremely cute thank you!

If that egg could withstand the acid rain, and Yuuko gave it to Doumeki of all people, then maybe it has purification properties like Doumeki?
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Post by: selenityshiroi on November 15 2006, 02:52 am
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As for the lack of DouWata...I think it's a delayed reaction.  When
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Fay used his magic in chapter 106 we were all expecting Kurogane to confront him on it
.  That didn't happen till chapter 112.
  I think it will happen, but CLAMP will get everything else out of the way first so that when it DOES happen, they can focus on it.

Put it this way, would you rather have a quick embarrased thank you in front of Himawari-chan or would you rather have a private, serious thank you when Doumeki is walking him home from school/Yuuko's (or similar scenario)?  I vote for option number two.

That was quoted for a week or so ago.

Now I'm scared...I'm predicting what CLAMP will do...

Time to book myself into the mental assylum!

But, OMG, fatastic chapter!  This was just what I wanted!
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Post by: Touei on November 15 2006, 05:30 am
Chinese scans here http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/105346206/

Password: wuyue

8D
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Post by: falka on November 15 2006, 06:23 am
thank you for the link and the password Znuese

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I'm delighted with this chapter. The boys are so cute together. I really missed their interaction. And Haruka is so damn sexy on this splashpage *fangirls*
I love Doumeki's expression on the top right panel on page 9, it's like: 'oi b****, get away from my man'
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 15 2006, 07:43 am
Yeah thanks for the link! (and the password too)!!! :D
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Post by: nefadol on November 15 2006, 09:41 am
Thanks for the link!

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Kudakitsune is so cute in how it became jealous!  I should say Mugestu now though, as it's been named.
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Post by: xxxholic on November 15 2006, 12:30 pm
I really like this chapter. I like the part where
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Doumeki was teasing Watanuki about his looks
That was SO much love!
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Post by: whatever on November 15 2006, 02:22 pm
Thank you for the link and password to the scans, Znuese.

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Well, Larg, black Mokona is back to drinking with Yuuko. I'm grateful Clamp addressed the difference between Larg and Soel's (white Mokona) situations so far in the previous chapter. Larg has had it pretty easy, eating and drinking with Yuuko, while Soel is out dimension-hopping facing countless dangers leading up to the recent TRC trauma that reduced it to tears. Having said that, I'm afraid for little Larg, what trauma lies ahead for the black Mokona protecting whatever it is (Watanuki?) in xxxholic? I guess until then it will be business as usual  :occasion14:

On page four, Doumeki has that strange expression on his face again *when he's trying to see what expression Watanuki has on his face*. It's the same one Doumeki had back in the Angel arc when he and Watanuki were on the stairs. He looked up at Watanuki with that expression on his face and said something like, "It must be terrible to be able to see spirits." Watanuki didn't respond very gracefully either time. *Watanuki really is clueless.*  :hehe:.
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 16 2006, 01:42 am
Yeah, Thank you very much Znuese!!
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Oh, The WatanukixDoumeki scene was soooo cute! It was pretty strange seeing Watanuki blush like that towards Doumeki. But I liked it soo much! (Finally some proof,  :hehe: ) And I wonder what Doumeki's going to do with the egg, and what's going to happen?
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 16 2006, 03:10 am
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I think it was a nice chapter. I was suprised when Watanuki started to blush, but it was cute ^^.
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Post by: lynalar on November 16 2006, 06:29 am
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you know...i'm sort of wondering if watanuki is blushing or if he's crying.  In the one panel, he has his hand next to his eyes as if he's wiping tears away. Anybody else notice that? 
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 16 2006, 06:44 am
Do anyone here know where you can download scanlations of the latest xxxHolic chapters? I only have a site were you can read it online..(Sorry off topic)
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Post by: Kazuki on November 16 2006, 06:51 am
Do anyone here know where you can download scanlations of the latest xxxHolic chapters? I only have a site were you can read it online..(Sorry off topic)

I'd like to know too... I only know BWYS but they haven't even started tankohon 10 yet... ó_o
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 16 2006, 08:48 am
Do anyone here know where you can download scanlations of the latest xxxHolic chapters? I only have a site were you can read it online..(Sorry off topic)
http://z11.invisionfree.com/The_Evil_Empire/index.php?showtopic=439

but you have to reguister on the board and make 10 non spam posts in the forums first

HEY!! those are mines and bill's chapters! used w/o permsion, but i guess theres not much choice since the msn group is the only scanlations of xxxholic at this point ^^'' i dont mind really. im actually falttered. ppele get to seem y skils XD
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Post by: beetlebum_101 on November 16 2006, 09:36 am
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you know...i'm sort of wondering if watanuki is blushing or if he's crying.  In the one panel, he has his hand next to his eyes as if he's wiping tears away. Anybody else notice that? 

Hmm even so, if
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Watanuki cried. It shows that he cares and worried for Doumeki. Plus if he's crying, he cried twice: first one is the old lady arc and this one. And as far as I remember, he didn't cried for Himawari back then. So another DW moment XD 
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 18 2006, 10:04 am
chapter is up at msn...or atleast im TRYING to get it to upload <_<
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Post by: xxxholic on November 19 2006, 07:50 am
chapter is up at msn...or atleast im TRYING to get it to upload <_<

Cool. Thanks for the update!
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Post by: falka on November 22 2006, 04:59 am
ladydarkmoon posted scans of the holic guide today.
I must admit that I'm very happy with the results of the couple popularity poll. DoumekixWatanuki are #1, and WatanukixHimawari aren't even mentioned (WataxZashiki are #5 though)!!! *evil fangirl laugh*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 22 2006, 06:12 am
ladydarkmoon posted scans of the holic guide today.
I must admit that I'm very happy with the results of the couple popularity poll. DoumekixWatanuki are #1, and WatanukixHimawari aren't even mentioned (WataxZashiki are #5 though)!!! *evil fangirl laugh*
uwai!!! i feel somewhat bad for the wata-hima shippers XD
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Post by: xxxholic on November 22 2006, 11:44 am
^ Me too. Just a bit though. But i would rather Watanuki with Himawari than with Zashiki.
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Post by: Giraffe-o-Life on November 22 2006, 11:56 am
^ Me too. Just a bit though. But i would rather Watanuki with Himawari than with Zashiki.

So would I. I'm more fond of AmexZashiki than WataxZashiki. But still, it's awesome (and not unexpected) that DouxWata took the top spot. :D
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 22 2006, 05:51 pm
whats the full take on the fan pairing thing?
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Post by: xxxholic on November 23 2006, 05:42 am
1. Watanuki and Doumeki
2. Watanuki and Yuuko
3. Mokona and Yuuko
4. Mari and Mori? I forgot the girls' names.
5. Watanuki and Ame
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 23 2006, 05:46 am
its maru and moro...and ithink you mean you mean wata-zashiki..^^;;
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Post by: xxxholic on November 25 2006, 04:32 pm
^ Yeah that's what i meant. I'm not good with names except for Doumeki and Watanuki.
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Post by: Touei on November 26 2006, 07:12 am
Chapter 124 spoilers (in japanese) .o.
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連載第124回

侑子に頼まれ酒蔵で(酒の)無月を探す四月一日。
銀竜やら刺青やらに目がいく。
四月一日(なんでおれを助けるための対価をもう一人の小狼君が払ったんだ)
      「この世界にも小狼君とさくらちゃんがいる‥‥か」「いつか会えるといいな」

侑子が百目鬼に卵を持たせたそのときだった。
新たなる客人の来訪。彼女が着ているのは四月一日たちと同じ学校の制服。
侑子「願いは何かしら」
生徒「家が‥‥」「怖いんです」

コメント(柱、お題:自分にとっての大切な記念日といえば?)
それぞれの誕生日。

(巻末、お題なし)
スタジオでまた食事会があ
りました。今度はお寿司と
ローストビーフ。んまい。

Something about Fai's tattoo and Kuro's sword, and CCS!Sakura and Syaoran?   
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Post by: Renaya on November 26 2006, 08:03 am
is ch 124 for next week?? can't wait ! ^^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 26 2006, 09:45 am
ooo. another crossover reference?
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Post by: Sandra-chan on November 26 2006, 09:51 am
A person in another tread said that there will be no TRC until january after the next chapter, is that the case for xxxHolic too?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 26 2006, 10:04 am
11/13 - Young Magazine #50 - Chapter 123 (on sale).
11/20 - Young Magazine #51 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
11/27 - Young Magazine #52 - Chapter 124.
12/04 - Young Magazine #1 - Chapter 125.
12/11 - Young Magazine #2 & #3 - Chapter 126.
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Post by: xxxholic on November 26 2006, 05:01 pm
YAY no breaks! Thanks for the information as usual, Sailor Yue.
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Post by: falka on November 26 2006, 05:53 pm
Neither of tcforums translated the spoiler here: http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3315

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I'm glad that everything seems to be back to normal in holic. new customer, probably new missions for our boys. I really missed it!
and I really love the idea of Watanuki meeting CCS!Syaoran and Sakura!
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Post by: Touei on December 14 2006, 01:32 am
Chapter 125 chinese scans are out, btw
http://photo.163.com/photos/cocoya118/109299602/
password is lingdang
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on December 14 2006, 02:00 am
Yaay!! Thanks Znuese!!!!   :D Now I just need the translations...  :3
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Post by: Mari on December 14 2006, 08:28 am
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Eh?  Another incident of a double exsistence?

Maybe it's tied to the fact the two Syaoran's are now co-exsisting
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Post by: Senefen on December 14 2006, 08:35 am
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I'd be moving out if I was that girl.
Looks like she needs a second bell. You just know that cant be good.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 14 2006, 11:54 pm
chapter up at MSN :)
intersting chapter tho.
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something is VERY off with yuuko's behavior. i dont like  the felling im getting from her aura.especially whenshe haned of that doublebell.
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Post by: Touei on December 15 2006, 02:15 am
Hhm..
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I wonder if Yuuko is purposefully making the house more and more scary, so that when it returns back to how it was before it wont seem so bad, or something like that?
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Post by: Sandra-chan on December 17 2006, 10:56 am
Does anyone know where you can download scanlations of the most recent chapters in xxxholic?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 17 2006, 05:04 pm
holic.org i think, check on tsubasachronicles forums. soeone does downloadable chapter, also look in the xxxholicmsn group, someone posts HQ downloads now,
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on February 01 2007, 04:35 pm
Wow, for the lates chapters, I never saw it coming.

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I wounder who the exorsist is??? Will we get an appearance from him?? That is if its the person I'm thinking of.
All I can say is, in the end, I feel sorry for the girl.

Ok, I'm done fan freaking now, sort of...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on February 12 2007, 05:56 am
i wnder what HAPPENED to the girl? is the "real" woman her mother or something?

also, im somewhat confused on how haruka apears in watanuki's dreams. before, it took the power of those baloons, but this time it didnt (im not counting haruka saving watanuki from the death nightmare)
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on February 13 2007, 06:54 am
The way with the "real" woman and her "real" daughter where acting, lets just say the living side of the three, that the dead girl may not have any relations to anyone living in that house. The ghost girl could have died in her home, or somewhere else, and being able to move freely around the world. The ghost girl had no idea she was dead.
The Others is a good movie to see for this kind of thing.

Now I'm just throwing this in, but dose anyone have an Idea, at least I do, to who the exorsist might be?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on February 23 2007, 05:14 pm
the new chapter...really cute!!

the return of the Oden Foxes!! ^^
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watanuki knits the child a pair of mittens for his paws. also doumeki meets them. the last panel = <3    :-3   [gotta love doumeki's incessant teasing ^^]

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Post by: Renaya on March 08 2007, 11:10 pm
Here's the link for the new one, ch 131...and it is a VERY interesting chapter :)
http://rapidshare.com/files/19958017/xxxHolic_Ch_131__BMS_.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/19958017/xxxHolic_Ch_131__BMS_.zip)

there is surprise link with the prologue of TRC
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 10 2007, 02:57 am
what is yuuko doing with that thing, and why is it RIGHT NEXT TO kuro's sword and fai's tatoo?

as for the chapter... when doumeki brought the sodas...

wtanuki you ungrateful little...you should count yourself lucky to have doumeki in your life as his wife XDDDDD

the chapter on msn is totaly f-ed up. the last 3 pages where they show close ups of doumeki and watanuki...its all disformed. gotta fix that....l

i love it when doumeki teases watanuki. its just so FUNNY and cute. (especialy when the art turns into SD formate X-3
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Post by: Sui Generis on March 16 2007, 05:28 pm
does anybody know what dat thing yuuko was holding is anyway? or is it something new?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 16 2007, 11:09 pm
in what? 145? that thing is at the beginninng of TRC. sakura and syaoran are trapped in it.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 21 2007, 04:38 pm
in ch 132..its interesting, watanuki's dream-spell thing.... BUT speaking of which, whn he felt trapped, who's name does he shout? DOUMKI's of course. and then theres yuuko, with her teasing wata-chan for being in love with himiwari XD

"the last moment is aproaching"..... very omonous sounding...
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Post by: Hisui on March 28 2007, 09:26 pm
More like a really bad foreboding, Yuuko can be such a creepy when she wants to... And yeah, Watanuki wasn't calling I-Know-All-Yuuko, he wasn't calling Annoying-Bad-Luck-Himawari, he was calling Doumeki. (and saying his name only is already saying EVERYTHING XD) I think that Watanuki is finally accepting Doumeki as a important part of his life (thank God!), but something is on my mind since some chapters back in xxxHolic... what the hell is going to happen to that egg that Yuuko gave Doumeki? How the hell is he with that thing all the time??
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 29 2007, 05:55 pm
the egg is impervious. it survived a vvery long time against acid rain, whjich eroded anything not under the protection of a sakura-feather.
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Post by: Sandra-chan on April 27 2007, 02:12 am
A new chapter has been released today, pretty chapter but it leaves you with a couple of questions...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 27 2007, 08:23 am
im totaly stunned at the ehnd of it. O__O
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Post by: Itzeen on April 27 2007, 01:13 pm
I already read chap 134, and I'm thinking that maybe Watanuki is going to help Sakura to find the feather,and then CXiao is going to apear, I'm thinking that also Watanuki is a dreamseer like Sakura, jijijijijiji is very interesting everything
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Post by: Senefen on May 02 2007, 02:58 pm
We know Watanuki is a dreemseer, the morning before he lost his eye he had a dream about Himawari where half of his field of vision was blocked out. Also he can meet Haruka. Which is interesting now that I think about it. Does that mean Haruka didnt really die? Or when he did his soul didn't go to the afterlife but to the dream world?
To reach and know about the dream world in the first place Haruka was probably a dreemseer, did he then make a deal with Yuuko to go there when he died? (the theories get wilder)

Go back to sleep Watanuki, Sakura needs your help.
Also interesting this means that Watanuki has, to some extet, the power to cross dimentions as he enters the dream world (another dimention) without a price.
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Post by: Hisui on May 04 2007, 09:27 pm
When chap. 135 will be released? Dammit!!!>_<  Now Yuuko has some serious explanations to give!!!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 04 2007, 10:21 pm
the 14th is when the next chapyer comes out.
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Post by: Phanima on May 19 2007, 06:18 pm
Chapter 135 is out on MSN Groups. It's short and sad for Kohane, but I'm glad it's out. http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLICManga/chapter135.msnw?Page=1
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Post by: Sandra-chan on May 20 2007, 04:42 am
It's sad that the xxxholic chapters are so short, it dosen't happen much in them. They didn't explain much in the recent chapter but I liked it.
I wonder what will happen in this "last moment" Yuuko talks so much about, she says it will happen soon but wouldn't that mean that the series will end soon? I can't imagine the series continuing after this "last moment" thing.. And it feels like it will be connected with trc, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on May 20 2007, 11:01 am
Wah..they left the events in 134 hanging...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 20 2007, 01:37 pm
Wah..they left the events in 134 hanging...
actualy they didnt. at the begining of 135 it shows watanuki had told his friends about his dream. funny, when wata asked why haruka keeps disapearing doumeki's responce was "because its granfather" XD

well it was funny at the time :S
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on May 25 2007, 09:16 am
Just read 136. Yay! conversation between Watanuki and Sakura!! We're getting closer into finding out the connection between Wata and RSyaoran! :P
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Post by: Sandra-chan on May 30 2007, 04:21 am
I hope a better translation of chapter 136 comes soon, I didn't understand much of the msn groups translation. It's too bad 'cause it seemed to be a very interesting chapter..
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 13 2007, 10:26 am
guh, damn spoiler permissions.... since were in pink right now for a whle, ill use pink font. still visable XC

damn. never mind. this post has spoilers =P



 such a chapter...more watanuki with sakura stuff... bonding etc ^^
then watanuki colapses inside the dream and sees syao in the same position, in pain (are they sharing the pain?) syaoran "says" dont disapear.....

then wataniuki wakes up...aparently the 2 were walking to school when watanuki colapsed. Doumeki-sama is so strict then. "you, go home. get to bed and get some sleep. NOW." heehee. and the look on his face when watanuki said he couldnt remember his parents names...so INTENSE!

im almost ready to ship douwata. im still only a suporter, but damn its so close to being an OTP!![/color]{end of spoiler}
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on July 13 2007, 10:22 pm
Wah! Watanuki don't disappear!!!
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Post by: Sandra-chan on July 22 2007, 02:56 am
I've read on a site that xxxholic is on a break now, is that true??..
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 22 2007, 03:07 am
yeah, but i dont know how long =_+
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on July 23 2007, 10:24 pm
Will there be a chapter this week??
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 23 2007, 11:33 pm
nope. but  next week yes followed by a break
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on July 26 2007, 08:54 pm
*sighs*  another break after next week. Oh well..Can't be helped, we had continuous TRC the past weeks/month plus the upcoming OVA CLAMP really needs a break.
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Post by: Sandra-chan on August 18 2007, 01:33 am
Especcially Ohkawa is really busy, she is working on both the Trc OVA/OAD and the next xxxHolic season plus making the scipts for all their manga XD Being a popular mangaka is a hard life...

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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 18 2007, 03:17 am
there WILL be a chapter on he 20th tho so patience =D
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Post by: Myna on August 18 2007, 04:35 am
The 20th? I have something else to look forward too! =D
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 20 2007, 09:26 am
the spoilers for the next chapter talk about:

watanuki making sherbet, a hand apearing in a hole and taking it and a voice asking if its tastey.

is FWR into stealing now? is he THAT bored? XP
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 16 2007, 03:14 am
^I don't think it was FWR XD, It didn't loook like his hand.^^
This tread has been quite quiet for a long time now, do we not wish to discuss xxxHolic anymore? Well maybe there's not so much to discuss at the moment, but I do hope that this tread will not be abandoned...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 16 2007, 05:11 am
well of course it wasn. it was just some kappa invading wata's dream XP

as for not discussing... holics been on haitus for some time, but thankfully its comming back next week ^_^
it just edepends on how INTEREZSTING the chapter will be =)
Title: Re: XXXHOLiC Manga 145 spoilers!!!
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 10 2007, 05:09 pm
145 spoilers!!!

http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLICManga/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1857

tho its yet another confusing chapter, BUT it might tie into TRC!!!
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Post by: Itzeen on November 12 2007, 10:47 am
HEre also the translations of chapter 145!!!!!
by imasocool12345!!!!!!!!
http://iamsocool12345.livejournal.com/51906.html
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 12 2007, 02:39 pm
im canlating ^-^
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Post by: Møon Li on November 12 2007, 07:13 pm

 OMG!!! I want scanlationsss...  finally a chapter!!!!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 13 2007, 12:52 am
im working on it, im working on it!!! XP

http://userpic.livejournal.com/68125624/10577629
:D
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Post by: redeternity on November 13 2007, 03:37 am
Okay, I'm worried now. I guess I just assumed that hand would be R!Syaoran's since the TRC spoilers said he was going into the Dream World.. but, Sakura's expression seems to say otherwise. I refuse to believe it's C!Syaoran's hand though because how the heck would he manage to get into the Dream World?

(..Also, poor Watanuki. How many times has he woken up crying so far? ;_;)
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Post by: Itzeen on November 13 2007, 08:44 am
OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish that hand could be CXiao really.................. what would happen next (Im speachless) I need Tsubasa chapter to see the conection in the "hand thing"
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 13 2007, 03:00 pm
download: comming soon
or
read online: http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLICManga/chapter145.msnw

enjoy =) these are my first HQ set, ^^
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Post by: Møon Li on November 13 2007, 07:06 pm

 Aaaah finally!!! poor Watanuki... crying and dreaming without knowing anything well, it was a good chapter but I want to know what is happening! and Yuuko looks very pretty ^_^
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2007, 12:29 am
the fact that im officially a douwata fangirl, and that when i looked at thi post i picked the fangirl answer is funny XD. kind of cute too, that deep down i always loved it. ^-^
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Post by: redeternity on November 14 2007, 01:39 am
Well, I ship Watanuki and the Kuda-kitsune xDDD

..But, DouWata is a close second *nods*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2007, 04:15 am
here. sendspace DL: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1r949t
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Post by: Ando on November 14 2007, 06:18 am
Thank you for the scanlations, Super Sailor Yue. It's nice not having to jump between the raws and the translation for once.

That's definitely not FWR's hand. I guess we are supposed to believe it's C!Syaoran's, but it could also be Kyle's, or maybe even Xing Huo's (the hand looks male, but still. It's not impossible). The mystery of those two needs to be cleared up soon anyway, so it's about time they show up again. I don't think it's R!Syaoran's, that seems to easy. It'd be no thriller for those who also follow TRC (which I guess is basically everyone).

Has that kappa (since I guess it's not a mermaid) appeared in any earlier chapter? I don't remember seeing it before. You guys think it'll be of importance, or is it simply a random folklore cameo similiar to that 'hand in the ground' that was featured in one volume?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2007, 06:42 am
it might have just been some thing randome from watanuki's imagination =P
since he wasnt ENTIRLY surprised about it really, just disapointed he couldnt taste the sherbet he suposedly made.

somethings telling me that the first half of the chapter was real-world, but then he passed out and entered the dream world. it's happened before, right? here the surounding change and he doenst realize he'd fallen asleep.

the way i figure, is mokona, himiwari and doumeki are very in character, and doumeki and hima are concerent about watanuki's OOCness. (IE doumeki's wondering if wata hit his head, cuz he was being nice X-3)
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Post by: redeternity on November 14 2007, 06:50 am
It can't be Xing Huo since she's dead :/
I like the idea about the hand belonging to Kyle, though ^^ We haven't seen him in ages!
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Post by: Ando on November 14 2007, 07:11 am
It can't be Xing Huo since she's dead :/


She might come back as a ghost. ^^' No seriously, I don't really think it's her. But it is necessary to somehow connect her to the story again, although granted it could be done through flashbacks and people talking about her.
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Post by: redeternity on November 14 2007, 07:43 am
Oh *facepalm*
I'm kinda slow xD
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 14 2007, 08:39 am
well, to coincide wit hte TRC chapter, theres every possibility of her return, ether thru mention or whatever.

the ay i see it, is that whoenver FWR created her FROM is who he wants to bring back. Xing Hou was a "failed creation" of his, and she too wanted to help stop his dream, so why not? she could have represented someone FWR cared for. she just cheezed him off by sending Syaoran away to yuukos.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 19 2007, 06:58 pm
holic 146
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p89pa8
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Post by: Itzeen on December 10 2007, 03:01 am
chapter 147.......
http://pics.livejournal.com/cloud9_alice/gallery/0007r7p9

no more chapters 'till january.........
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 10 2007, 04:25 am
cool. if im up to it, ill scanlate :P