Seishirou-san...good or evil?

[Okamirei]

I'm not quite sure...but I think he's more than what the naked eye sees. But my conscience says "He took Sakura's feather! how can he not be evil?!", on the other hand, my sub-conscience says "but he taught Syaoran kung-fu! He has a good heart!"

[scarecrow_wingz]

oooh that's such an interesting question... there's not enough information right now i think... i'm of mixed opinion. i'm sure he's got an ulterior motive we're unaware of yet

[Tune]

he's a baddy, i'm sure of it, my 6th sense tells me so...i guess this is the norm for anime? the person is good at the begining but turns out bad and betrays the good guys...betrayal is a nice twist in anime~i might be wrg but i'll stick to he's a baddy~~

[Bao_Nhia_Yang]

i think he's a good person! he probably just has a higher priority then..

[Sya0ran]

Its too early in the manga to see.  I love Seishirou-kun and he's just plain awesome but right now its hard to tell if he's a goody or a baddy.   We'll find out as the manga progresses...^^

[Okamirei]

*nods* I agree, he is really awsome

[Kasumi]

Well, I don't see him (for now) as either a good or bad guy... I believe that he has some beliefs and is following a goal, so he tries to do his best to achieve it...
He met Shaoran-kun in the past, and liked the kid, coz I bet he remembered himself when he was younger, but now that they encountered again he was on the (let's call it) opposite side, and he needed Sakura's feather, not caring if Shaoran needed it as well....
But we'll probably see and know more of him later... I have to admit that it surprised me when they didn't get the feather, I was like... WHAT!? O.O

[Okamirei]

*nods*  I wonder what memories that feather held...what if it was the memories of sakura and Syaoran's relationship, and Seishiro was actually working for Yuko?

[Kasumi]

I don't  think that's the case, since yuuko is erasing those memories no matter what... my bet is either hes out on his own.. OR maybe he has something to do with those two misterious characters whom we don't know their names

[Bao_Nhia_Yang]

now that i think of it.. he might even be bad! he may look nice.. but he could be working for the bad guys!

[lumizstar]

Seishiro is a cross-over from Tokyo-Babylon/x 1999. As many of you know he is supposedly dead, but since this is a new series anything can happen In the original comic, he was supposedly the "evil" person, but somehow fell in love with the hero (ya, a guy). In X, the two people "hated"each other because Seishiro killed Subaru-san's sister Hokuto, but ends up being killed by Subaru due to the reflection curse Hokuto casted upon him.

Basing on the past comic history, Seishiro is still searching for Subaru (somehow tells me they are talking about their love story,:P) Seishiro isn't really evil, but just shows to the bad guy (in the original its due to the clan -thing. as the Sakurazukamori)So I think the same thing applies to TRC (sort of). Meeting Syaoran, and then teaching him fighting showed his possibly good side. But in my POv of why he didn't want t give the feather back, is that he needed it to search for Subaru (we see him asking the lady is your name Subaru). Ithinkit wasn't that he needed the memories of the feather, but rather the hidden power ( Sakura's "wings" had some sort of power). There isn't any use for the memory to him atm, besides if we speculate him working for Yuuko.

[Tune]

there was when yuuko said that the "soul" of the same but different person in different dimensions are the same...thats y i'd say he's somehow on the evil-side but mostly for self-gain~

[lumizstar]

there was when yuuko said that the "soul" of the same but different person in different dimensions are the same...thats y i'd say he's somehow on the evil-side but mostly for self-gain~

Yes, thats similar to what 'm thinking. Maybe later we can see the x 1999 corss-over, and maybe another Seishiro can be seen. But still, I don't think he's bad-to-the-bone.

[Tune]

fr what i understand and looked up, seishiro does cold-clood murdering.....if that is not evil..it dunno what is~ *does the right and left fingers triangle flexing*

[Tune]

*ack* at the 333th post i had to do an error...ahh it should be: cold-Blood murdering...(srysry)

i'd like to add that dint he say that he was searching for twin vampires one of which is called subaru (am i wrg about the vampire part?? coz i like to confirm...)~~

[Tune]

i'd like to bank in my thoughts again~so dont look if any1 finds it too repeative, i'll warn that there'll be spoilers here and there to help explain (it cant be help not mentioning, sry)~~
i'd also say that seishiro seems to be too big of a character to juz ignore as he taught syaoran how to fight in the past, recieved a limited dimensional powers fr yuuko, holds a feather of memory that belongs to sakura, has powers on par with kurogane (that much power + dimension travelling eye can tip the balance of powers between good & evil in TRC depending on who he sides) & many ppl seem to be looking at his return a blessing too...(thats can fandom is it??~ CLAMP answered that for sure~)

-IF SEISHIRO IS GOOD-

after thinking thru about what lumizstar said about seishiro probably working for yuuko, i thought it might be possible as yuuko trading a limited but similar base of her space & time traveling powers for seishiro's right-eye (eww~y'd she want that?! *shiver*) seems too-good-a-deal-what-so-ever, since seishiro is on his way to find subaru, he'd probably pass by the gang and will be able to aid them (look at it this way, if seishiro dint "kill" fye & syaoran, they'd nvr realize that they are in a gameworld. or rather, if he did not arrive in the game world & the gang did, they'd be stuck in the gameworld forever & thats probably what the evil reed guy wants since in vol 9. it was revealed that he could somehow manipulate the worlds the gang fall into). and the arrow shot by yuuko that flew out of mokona's mouth when kurogane & seishiro were starting to get serious in battling stopped them efficiently, it might really be a sign that seishiro obeys yuuko thus he back away, he's really powerful fr what i heard....and it was by pure dumb luck that a feather falls into his hands while traveling to different dimensions and its power will definately be handy in his search so he'll juz keep it before his search ends & returns it in the end. (pure dumb luck is easy to bump into in TRC it seems~:D). if the story links back, syaoran once said that seishiro didnt look like he aged at all since when syaoran was young, i thought that since the dimensional power allows traveling through time too, seishiro could have used it....

so his helping the gang is a kinda "juz for convinience".
(continued on next post)

[Tune]

-IF SEISHIRO IS NEUTRAL-

i went to explore some of seishiro's past and found out that his right-eye was blinded by subaru (ooooo...), so it seems really important (i dunno more than that really~ ), and things of importance have a value and thus might be equivilant in the trade with yuuko for some dimensional travelling powers (so he can go search for subaru, but lumizstar already said that). hey, in xxxholic, yuuko seems to be more of a businesswoman than some crusader blabbering the moral of good & evil, she believes in fate quite heavily....so i guess the trade stands. my thought on that he is evil only changes that he "killed" syaoran & fye in the gameworld juz because they stood in his way and its his way of having fun (bad guys' psycology) its by pure dumb luck that they were in the gameworld & did not really die (i said it before) & seishiro was there juz coz of his search for subaru, nothing else. concerning the matter of the arrow shot by yuuko, it can be seen that he would not like to offend her in case she cuts off the source of the dimension travelling powers that he traded his right-eye for, (since the source of yuuko's power is similar to the power he is using to travel-duh). so he backed away, knowing the anyway, subaru was not there. the matter of the feather is almost the same xcept i dont think he'd have the intention of letting it away without a lose in a fight. and its definate he's not working for yuuko

in this stand, he is totally self-gain with no reguard to which side what-so-ever.

-IF SEISHIRO IF EVIL-

not much is different fr the neutral stand xcept that he's working for the evil reed guy (helping him collect sakura's feathers).

in this stand, he evil & does it like a hobby but has a twisted mentality, call it bad guys' psycology--again (i kinda read this off a summary of X/1999).
(continued on next post)

[Tune]

things that i've yet to confirm:

1. in the gameworld when seishiro "killed" fye, y did he not 'kill' sakura & mokona as well, i'd take that he knows mokona has the power of dimension travelling and 'kill' him'll anger yuuko or something, but sakura would be an easy target even if mokona tries as he could to protect her+sakura was sound asleep that time. since she is the source of the feathers and holds several feathers then, if seishiro if good, then 'killing' them'll aid them faster in realizing that they are in the gameworld. if seishiro is bad, then there was no pt in 'killing' fye at the start, if seishiro is neutral, it'll make sense as sakura & mokona were not in his way/obstructing his actions.

2. in syaoran's past when syaoran bought/stole (?) the book his father needed and some men chased after him attempting to beat him up, y dint seishiro kill those men & juz beat them up yet did not gave chase? in fact, in X, killing doesnt seem to be even a nick of deal to him, like a walk in the park. unless he was trying to giv syaoran a good impression, but thats the next spectaculation.

3. his teaching syaoran how to fight. if all he needs is syaoran to translate the book, seishiro could have easily walked away when syaoran done his part or even wipe syaoran out if he wanted to. teaching syaoran how to fight might be juz his way of having fun, like holidaying on a trip, but it can also be looked in a way that seishiro is an observer for the evil reed guy, since syaoran is somehow connected to the 'other syaoran' at that guy's lair.

4. his method of travelling to worlds here and there seemingly randomly means that he resides in yuukos world and that
  i. either the vampire twins can travel thru dimensions too
OR
  ii. was tipped off (by yuuko/evil reed guy, either doesnt rule out if he's good, neutral or evil)

any1 plz help correct my if i'm wrg, i'm dry out tired and am sure that there are mistakes here and there..zz..zzz...zzzzzzzzzz

[Kasumi]

My friend Bure told me about Seishirou and his relationship with Subaru from X.... ahhh, too complicated >.< I think it still has something to do with those vampires,(i forgot 'em ) he will keep his journey until he finds them... sooo... maybe he just wants to accomplish whatever he is doing not caring for other individuals... we STILL have to wait for more -___-

[lumizstar]

Well, just a responce to the past of Seishirou. His eye was blinded not by Subaru, but becasue of protecting Subaru. I think Seishirou is working for his own interest, and not for Yuuko. His past is really something to explore deeply, and when I watched X,  I did a lot of that " research" . Seishirou is supposedly the enemy of Subaru (clan vs clan) but after an encounter when the young Subaru ( age 9) before killing him (long story) he thought he should give him a chance. Well, they met later after like 7 years or so, became good friends. But when he revealed himself to be the enemy of the sumeragi clan, he killed Hokuto, and thus Subaru was " angry"  at him. In X, Subaru's eye was blinded by seishirou, as he own wish ( cuz gulity that Sei-san lost an eye for him). As I have said, Sei-san was killed by a refelcting curse, and Subaru ( who killed him cuz of a reflex curse) felt guilty for the rest of his life (probably, cuz it hasn't ended).

Its a basic love and hate relationship (yaoi one), and somekind of official. In TRC, Sei-san is searching for Subaru, but why he took the feather away is still unknown. thats it for now