Topic: The heresy that is Cardcaptors. (Read 106362 times)

Ralea · « **Reply #140 on:** April 14 2005, 07:29 pm »

No changes whatsoever?

D.J.P · « **Reply #141 on:** April 14 2005, 07:38 pm »

You are still refering to the 'dub', seems America didn't see all the episodes.

I know here in Australia, we saw all 70 dub episodes (in order), Even though they repeated Season 1 about 5 or 6 times before they continued.

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #142 on:** April 14 2005, 08:22 pm »

Quote from: Ralea on April 13 2005, 03:34 pm

Instead of spending money on your electric bills and cable, you also have to pay for the electricity for the DVD player, and the DVD;s themselves. Now, if only Nelvana dubbed sensibly. One more unforgivable thing was the music. I find it dull. Why did they replace those music for, it was fine enough as it is?

Unless you pay for the VHS but VHS isn't common anymore....DVDs are more common these days.

DarkWolfYoukai · « **Reply #143 on:** April 14 2005, 08:52 pm »

Quote from: Fai D. Flowright on April 14 2005, 08:22 pm

Unless you pay for the VHS but VHS isn't common anymore....DVDs are more common these days.

actually, our library has a lot of VHS and some of it is CCS. that was the only way for my to see the volume with the Change, Dash, ect. i don't remember the name of the volume or the other two cards Sakura sealed because it's never in stock at Media Play, so i can't buy it.

Ruby Chan · « **Reply #144 on:** April 15 2005, 01:50 am »

Yeah, in Australia and England they hardly changed a thing, except maybe cutting out some Yukito/Touya interaction. It was pretty cool.

Takeru · « **Reply #145 on:** April 15 2005, 04:50 am »

One thing to say. Wow. Just freaking wow.

Never has one of my threads been this popular in my entire life. I just say that Cardcaptors is like a media satan, then all of a sudden people are making death threats towards Nelvana? Fantastic. I'm going to add a few more comments on what I think about Cardcraptors.

I watched the entire first (COUGH*EIGHTH*COUGH) episode. Not funny, not cute, not interesting. It just jumps into the prospect of collecting Clow Cards for some random reason that isn't thoroughly enough explained. The only information we have on the background story is the opening sequence.

I'm going to go through this detailed list of opinions for the voice actors used in the dub. The only ones I heard, mind you.

Carly McKillip - "Sakura Avalon"

Carly's voice was okay. Not the best I've ever heard, but it was okay. It definitely suited her character as she was in the dub, but her acting skills could be upped a bit. Apparently she already had extensive acting experience, doing many musical performances for The Wizard of Oz, but I guess voice acting just isn't her forte.

Matt Hill - "Kero"

Kero's voice, or rather, "Keero's", sounded like some wanna-be surfer dude guy. Did not enjoy the performance. He actually did Ed's voice in Ed, Edd, and Eddy, and I do not see what Nelvana saw in him that so fitted Kero.

Rhys Huber - "Li Showron"

Hmm, not the best voice. It was okay, like Sakura's. He has a somewhat small carreer in acting, and doesn't have much information on him.

Brian Drummond - "Aiden Avalon"

Loved it. Perfect voice actor. Only voice I liked. He has extensive voice-acting skills and can act well in a number of scenarios. Apparently he also did Vegeta in Dragonball Z.

Maggie Blue O'Hara - "Madison Taylor"

Do not even START. Just don't. Good voice actor, HORRIBLE for the role.
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About the second movie. I don't think Nelvana was in charge of the dubbing job on that, and it was actually done pretty well from what I hear. Name changes were opted out, original storyline was retained, and the whole S&S theme was kept as well.

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #146 on:** April 15 2005, 05:20 am »

Quote from: DarkWolfYoukai on April 14 2005, 08:52 pm

actually, our library has a lot of VHS and some of it is CCS. that was the only way for my to see the volume with the Change, Dash, ect. i don't remember the name of the volume or the other two cards Sakura sealed because it's never in stock at Media Play, so i can't buy it.

Wow really? My library doesn't have any anime except manga and that's unless I order it >.<; Argh...oh well, I'm glad to see others don't have waste their money like me xD; Hahaha.

Quote from: Takeru ･amamoto on April 15 2005, 04:50 am

One thing to say. Wow. Just freaking wow.

Never has one of my threads been this popular in my entire life. I just say that Cardcaptors is like a media satan, then all of a sudden people are making death threats towards Nelvana? Fantastic. I'm going to add a few more comments on what I think about Cardcraptors.

I watched the entire first (COUGH*EIGHTH*COUGH) episode. Not funny, not cute, not interesting. It just jumps into the prospect of collecting Clow Cards for some random reason that isn't thoroughly enough explained. The only information we have on the background story is the opening sequence.

I'm going to go through this detailed list of opinions for the voice actors used in the dub. The only ones I heard, mind you.

Carly McKillip - "Sakura Avalon"

Carly's voice was okay. Not the best I've ever heard, but it was okay. It definitely suited her character as she was in the dub, but her acting skills could be upped a bit. Apparently she already had extensive acting experience, doing many musical performances for The Wizard of Oz, but I guess voice acting just isn't her forte.
Matt Hill - "Kero"

Kero's voice, or rather, "Keero's", sounded like some wanna-be surfer dude guy. Did not enjoy the performance. He actually did Ed's voice in Ed, Edd, and Eddy, and I do not see what Nelvana saw in him that so fitted Kero.
Rhys Huber - "Li Showron"

Hmm, not the best voice. It was okay, like Sakura's. He has a somewhat small carreer in acting, and doesn't have much information on him.
Brian Drummond - "Aiden Avalon"

Loved it. Perfect voice actor. Only voice I liked. He has extensive voice-acting skills and can act well in a number of scenarios. Apparently he also did Vegeta in Dragonball Z.
Maggie Blue O'Hara - "Madison Taylor"

Do not even START. Just don't. Good voice actor, HORRIBLE for the role.
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About the second movie. I don't think Nelvana was in charge of the dubbing job on that, and it was actually done pretty well from what I hear. Name changes were opted out, original storyline was retained, and the whole S&S theme was kept as well.

I agree about Kero's voice.....if anyone has heard Eriol's voice....*shivers* Just ew. Touya's VA was ok and so was Yukito's. But overall, the dub wasn't that great. I'll stick to the Japanese instead of dubbed.

Sakaki · « **Reply #147 on:** April 15 2005, 06:37 am »

I'm absolutely Loving your Touya avatar, Fai!
He looks SO good in Tsubasa. :O)

Cardcraptors has NO plot.
They took everything of importance out.
They took out all the relationships. To me, that is what CardCaptor Sakura is
all about.
And I don't want to be mean to the voice actors in Cardcraptors, but it was really horrible!

Get netflix for a month and you can see every uncut Cardcaptor Sakura episode in Japanese. The voice acting is amazing. No one can come close to replacing their real Japanese voices. Yuki and Syaoran's voices are so kawaii I could faint.

~sakaki

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #148 on:** April 15 2005, 07:07 am »

Quote from: Sakaki on April 15 2005, 06:37 am

I'm absolutely Loving your Touya avatar, Fai!
He looks SO good in Tsubasa. :O)

Oh thank you~ <3 I took the screencap myself and made it into an icon xD I need to make more Touya icons from Tsubasa and CCS.

But I also agree to your post, Sakaki....I really need to get netflix because a friend of mine has it =3 Maybe I'll take interests so I can see CCS instead of CC <3

Ruby Chan · « **Reply #149 on:** April 15 2005, 07:08 am »

I've said it once, and I'll say it again....

The only bad version of Cardcaptors is the american version! The australian and english ones were just like the japanese one!

Lexi · « **Reply #150 on:** April 15 2005, 07:23 am »

Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 15 2005, 07:08 am

I've said it once, and I'll say it again....

The only bad version of Cardcaptors is the american version! The australian and english ones were just like the japanese one!

You don't know how lucky you are, Ruby Chan. Here in North America, most of us had to suffer by watching Cardcaptors

(I'm gonna kill Nelvana one day, yet I just have to keep my cool...) Although I'd already watched CCS before CC, I still had to listen to the BS because my little sister was a big fan of CC *I always hid in my room whenever she put on CC, but I could still hear it

* At that time, I didn't own any CCS. (I had just borrowed the VCDs and manga from my best friend.) So, we had to make do with stupid CC since I couldn't show my sister the original CCS. *Oh, the humanity!*

My cousins, OTOH, were enjoying an uncut and better dubbed version of CCS in Australia. That's when I started hating Nelvana even more. How could they kill CCS with CC!?

Now I'm glad that they've taken CC off the air *phew* If Nelvana ever lays its filthy hands on TRC and butchers it the same way as CCS, I swear I'm gonna shoot them on the spot

Ruby Chan · « **Reply #151 on:** April 15 2005, 07:26 am »

Know how you feel in a way....you have lots of anime that aren't out in england.

D.J.P · « **Reply #152 on:** April 15 2005, 07:34 am »

Quote from: Ruby Chan on April 15 2005, 07:08 am

I've said it once, and I'll say it again....

The only bad version of Cardcaptors is the american version! The australian and english ones were just like the japanese one!

Correction, they aren't.
Its still the dub version done by Nelvana, only difference was we saw all episodes in order.

So it still had no releation between S+S (shudders at the thought - evil Nelvana)
The poor (in same cases) voice acting
and anything else you want to find wrong with it.

- I'm glad I have all the original episodes

Ruby Chan · « **Reply #153 on:** April 15 2005, 07:36 am »

It did have S + S...you just had to watch for when Syaoran blushed or said nice things, or how he acted.

D.J.P · « **Reply #154 on:** April 15 2005, 07:38 am »

but they covered it up with something totally unrelated.

They cut all the S+S scenes that they could, anything left they covered with something stupid.
-Don't remember any specifics

Lexi · « **Reply #155 on:** April 15 2005, 07:41 am »

*decides to call up cousins to send her the original CCS DVDs*

Fai D. Flowright · « **Reply #156 on:** April 15 2005, 07:47 am »

For a minutes, I thought England and Australia got different dubs! o_O

Well I'm glad everyone's dubs are all the same ^^;

But anyways, anything dubbed is pretty bad~ same for CCS and any other anime.

Ralea · « **Reply #157 on:** April 15 2005, 09:20 am »

Quote from: Lexi on April 15 2005, 07:23 am

Now I'm glad that they've taken CC off the air *phew* If Nelvana ever lays its filthy hands on TRC and butchers it the same way as CCS, I swear I'm gonna shoot them on the spot

Blow them up with a grenade or set mad dogs at them anytime! CC was just a lame excuse for them to get more rating.

Lexi · « **Reply #158 on:** April 15 2005, 10:25 am »

Quote from: Ralea on April 15 2005, 09:20 am

Blow them up with a grenade or set mad dogs at them anytime! CC was just a lame excuse for them to get more rating.

LOL! *gets her grenades loaded with mad dogs ready* <-- This should work on them.

CC definitely was just a lame excuse for them to get more rating - YA RITE! It just made us hate them even more!

Sakaki · « **Reply #159 on:** April 15 2005, 11:46 am »

Quote from: SLi on April 15 2005, 07:34 am

- I'm glad I have all the original episodes

Me too!

You really do miss a lot by watching a dub, even if they don't cut anything out.
Hearing the Japanese voice actors, the way it was intended is So much better.
I can't watch dubbed anime. I just can't.

~sakaki

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