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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #340 on: May 16 2005, 10:32 pm »
I do exactly that now :D

I no longer consider it at a dub (haven't for a long time)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #341 on: May 16 2005, 10:45 pm »
gah, i think SLi is being very biased
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #342 on: May 16 2005, 11:00 pm »
who said I'm biased?

I only enjoy CCS now. I used to like CC but that was before I started buying CCS and saw what I was missing out on :D

The last time I watched cardcaptors was when I put my recorded episodes onto dvd (which I have to do again  :angry: cause the disc has a little problem) and as I recall I didn't even laugh. (actually I think I was ignoring what was happening for the most part)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #343 on: May 16 2005, 11:02 pm »
so your saying you've gone from liking it to not liking it ? o.O
i just find that odd.. when i like something i tend to always like it, ah well. whatever makes you happy :keke:
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #344 on: May 16 2005, 11:03 pm »
Yeap (strange I know but that is the way things are sometimes :D)
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #345 on: May 17 2005, 04:42 am »
So if Cardcaptors was its own show, and there was no such thing as Card Captor Sakura, and Cardcaptors was actually an original creation by Nelvana, and if no one ever knew that Card Captor Sakura even existed, would Cardcaptors be a good show to you?

By the way, SLi, Cardcaptors isn't THAT horrible. At least Nelvana did some things right. Some. Look at the positives, why don't you...
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #346 on: May 17 2005, 05:32 am »
Since Cardcaptors is what got me into Cardcaptor Sakura, then yeah, Cardcaptors would be a good show. And even though people say that S+S got erased, if you watched closely, you could pick up on hints that showed how Li's feelings were changing towards Sakura.

Personally, I think Cardcaptors was a great series (although I wathced the version with all 70 episodes), and the only reason people think it's rubbish is because they're comparing an original show to the dub - most dubs are worse than the originals, so don't pick on Nelvana! They tried their best!


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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #347 on: May 17 2005, 07:31 am »
nelvana, trying their best?  :rotfl:  they just wanted something to go up against pokemon for ratings.  though, if cardcaptors was the original and there was no ccs, it would be like yu-gi-oh to me.  like it for a while, then watch it just because it's there.  yes, i watch yu-gi-oh just because it's there.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #348 on: May 17 2005, 10:41 am »
***So if Cardcaptors was its own show, and there was no such thing as Card Captor Sakura, and Cardcaptors was actually an original creation by Nelvana, and if no one ever knew that Card Captor Sakura even existed, would Cardcaptors be a good show to you?***

I have to say it would still **** big time.
First, I have to admit I've only seen a few Cardcraptors episodes.
I've read the transcipts of them though and I know what they took out and what order they showed the episodes in here in America.
Cardcaptors makes no sense.
You have people smiling while they are yelling, you have Touya and Sakura acting totally out of character (bratty). They "Americanized" everything.
You have Syaoran blushing while they are talking about something totally unrelated to feelings.

The voice acting is really bad. Even if you NEVER even knew about CCS, you have to admit the voice acting on CC is really awful.
Everything was shown out of sequence making the plot meaningless.
All the relationships were torn out.
What was the point of CC?
What were they trying to convey with this show?

I'm commenting on the American version obviously.
That is the only version I really know much about.

Hmmm... that almost sounded like a rant.
Okay, one good thing about the dub......the animation.
One more...I admit it does introduce people to anime and makes them interested in finding out more about it.     Haha, just had to be fair here!

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #349 on: May 17 2005, 10:49 am »
Couldn't agree with you more Sakaki.
I've noticed so many errors when it came to that show...and I'm not talking about the relationships and such.

There's actually this one part in CC that has always peeved me off to the extreme. I can't remember what episode number it was but it was when Dash took off "in" Toya's bike. Near the begining of the episode, Kero is talking about how there won't be any "natural disasters" because one of the elemental cards were changed; Windy.
Mmm...wasn't the first card she changed Firey? And in the SAME episode later, she CHANGES Windy! Argh, it confused me, and peeved me off, greatly.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #350 on: May 17 2005, 10:52 am »
Hey Endoh, you are allowed to type sucks, but my "it would still suck" got edited!
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #351 on: May 17 2005, 10:54 am »
I don't get that....sometimes it covers up "Darn" for me....
Maybe it's all random...hmmm....
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #352 on: May 17 2005, 12:06 pm »

Hmmm... that almost sounded like a rant.
Okay, one good thing about the dub......the animation.
One more...I admit it does introduce people to anime and makes them interested in finding out more about it. Haha, just had to be fair here!
Well, they did get the action scenes somewhat right and you have to admit that even though it's not as good as the original, the CC movie dub wasn't that bad.....At least it still made sense even if it was different.
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« Reply #353 on: May 17 2005, 12:11 pm »
I've never seen the Movie Dub....I was too ashamed of the series.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #354 on: May 17 2005, 01:40 pm »
If you're looking someone to blame, blame the current demographic when CC is being made.

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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #355 on: May 17 2005, 02:06 pm »
well i liked Cardcaptors :D always have and always will
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #356 on: May 18 2005, 09:28 am »
You really are optimistic aren't you Vexnet? LOL

I guess it's your view on it really, if your not that into romance and really like action squences then CC isn't that bad. I ofcourse love fluff so that;s one of my peeves when it came CC. Also, we have to admit that CC did introduce us to CCS, at least for those who never heard of it, like ME! XD

I guess also the voice actors irked me too, they just had the wrong emotions for the wrong time, bleh, that's just my view on it ^^
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #357 on: May 19 2005, 09:45 am »
You really are optimistic aren't you Vexnet? LOL

I guess it's your view on it really, if your not that into romance and really like action squences then CC isn't that bad. I ofcourse love fluff so that;s one of my peeves when it came CC. Also, we have to admit that CC did introduce us to CCS, at least for those who never heard of it, like ME! XD

I guess also the voice actors irked me too, they just had the wrong emotions for the wrong time, bleh, that's just my view on it ^^
*COUGHS really loudly* well actually i think Romance is one of (if not) my fav Genre, and action i find pretty lame unless its done properlly then its not worth watching, i watched CC cos it entertained me, i dun care what anyone says i LIKED the relationships in CC, whether YOU can see them or not XP so eat that up and live on :D
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #358 on: May 19 2005, 09:48 am »
Wait...there were ...relationships in CC?
Well, I certainly didn't see that....I thought there was no emtion within the series what-so-ever.
Meh, I guess that's just my opinion.
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Re: The heresy that is Cardcaptors.
« Reply #359 on: May 19 2005, 10:12 am »
Well... CC would probably still be a good show if we rate it just upon the battle scenes... Nelvana just focused more on that without realizing the true theme behind CCS when they got the series from Japan.  Maybe they never thought cartoons can be more than just entertainment, that it can teach people lessons about life.
So, yeah, the ones we should blame is the demographic back then... (Did I say it right? Demographic?)  Kids in America are more used to watching stories with the typical idea of "Good guy always wins!" (This is why I got sick of Yu-Gi-Oh) or shows packed with lots of actions and fights (Superman, batman... Not that I hate them, I like them for what they are)